mhawk

Okay seriously guys, how about y'all peace out from these dow's and just go hit Polar. We all might as well get this business sorted out this time around

[quote name='Antoine Roquentin' timestamp='1297379600' post='2628419'] The thread wasn't a great idea, but kwell said it was just him talking. [/quote] I've yet to see anything from you that would suggest his little tantrum was any different than the actual policy. Feel free to correct anything he messed up.

[quote name='kwell' timestamp='1297369583' post='2628228'] Face the consequences of your past. Your past reflects your present and your future. Coming out of pm is the first step. Time to prove to your allies you aren't just using them. **My opinions are my own opinions, not Umbrella or Dh. Have a problem with what I have said, I have 3 defensive slots available, take your pick. DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT : D [/quote] What the heck was karma then? I await the day it comes time for you to face consequences of your actions. You're just throwing a tantrum you don't get things your way, deal with it. As an ally of NPO and one who still is at 50% my ns from pre karma beat downs I support holding out against such immature opponents. We're done building you guys up (what between TPF and NPO 400,000 tech?) just to deal with more temper tantrums when you get bored. No you don't get that toy today, sit in your cart and be quiet.

[quote name='Kalasin' timestamp='1297211116' post='2626214'] but once you have dealt with NPO's leadership and seen their true face it puts all their past crimes into perspective. They deserved every day they spent under those terms and more. [/quote] I'll have to disagree here. There are probably few people who have worked with NPO leadership as direct and longer term as I have. Your conclusions go against what I've experienced, but that is how it goes I guess. Same way I suppose xiphosis isn't [b]Really[/b] a monster

[quote name='Kalasin' timestamp='1297210230' post='2626192'] I didn't think that they had paid their dues, no. [/quote] Just seems when 2/3 of your statement was dedicated to Polar. Skipping over the karma war, more money and tech demanded than all reps ever taken by all alliances combined seems a bit odd. When you look at these things you have to balance your personal hatred to that of enslaving a community as a whole for hundreds of days. If you can articulate a rational justification for such measures that would be interesting to read.

Out of curiosity, did you not view Karma as any sort of "revenge"? You seemed to have missed the whole year long terms thing that happened.

[quote name='ktarthan' timestamp='1297060391' post='2623658'] Actually, dangit. I entirely forgot about this. I tried to give benefit of the doubt [i]against[/i] GOONS in any case where there were ambiguous stats (NPO hit by many alliances, drops that looked more like a member leaving than war damage, etc.) However unless MK and Umb contributed to a very substantial portion of the total damage, the point still stands. [/quote] I think mk and umb took 70k ns off one of our nations alone Jbone still can't walk straight.

[quote name='Rage McKill' timestamp='1297059744' post='2623632'] Stats were taken before CnG blitz. [/quote] Would be better if mk and umb weren't hitting us. 50% or more of our damage has come from them, not goons.

[quote name='Batallion' timestamp='1297046772' post='2623021'] I fixed Nebula-X's alignment, thank you for that. Genesis is no longer on Polar's side due to treaty obligations coupled with their surrender terms which bar them from being on Polar's side. [/quote] Looks like you were alittle too hasty.

[quote name='Epiphanus' timestamp='1297056132' post='2623389'] Coming in on an ODP. Wow :\ Enjoy having your nations burn. [/quote] You guys seemed fine to attack an alliance citing no treaty or coherent reasoning. I'd say citing an ODP and friendship should be an example to your little group of barbarians.

[quote name='Crymson' timestamp='1297056285' post='2623404'] Oh, mhawk. No matter how many times I explain this to you, you still try to turn the tables by axing most of the story. You're far less clever than you think. [/quote] The fact nearly every statement you make towards others involves a petty cheap character attack, while never addressing in a coherent manner the topic of discussion speaks volumes.

[quote name='Crymson' timestamp='1297055898' post='2623369'] Mmm yes, except you're forgetting the part where NPO unashamedly spat in our face the second they started that war. Nice try. [/quote] You guys come off so sensitive. I mean seriously still talking about how horrible an incident it must have been to be a mediator and a war breaks out? Oh my, you guys treat it like you got sneak attacked or held under terms for 10 months + 350k tech. Get over it already. Be honest and stop pretending this was some end of world offense, we all know you've tried so hard to distance yourselves from the orders, you don't need to roll on the ground crying about being the poor mediator again.

It's nice to see you guys finally backing MK's recklessly aggressive war.

Yeah, TPF is not at war with fan currently.

Hey I'll admit I've drank the koolaid, but once you have a case with no wires, easily add up to 64gig of ram and 8tb hhd, you'll never go back

[quote name='The Crimson King' timestamp='1297011693' post='2622226'] Edit: Syn was one minute faster than I it appears. [/quote] And about 3 paragraphs longer Great to have you with us Avalon, friends such as you are rare gifts indeed.

There is a thing or two I bet you'd like about a mac pro. Biggest thing for me was internally there are no wires, just bays to replace all the components.

[quote name='AbstractSkylines' timestamp='1296968380' post='2621345'] here's a little bit for the advertising of the Polaris cause. [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFP9bFF_Wos"]Join New Polar Order[/url] [/quote] I think you guys just committed a war crime.

Aside from NPO's getting hit out of the blue from DH with no coherent CB?

[quote name='Tequila Mockingbird' timestamp='1296970110' post='2621426'] tpf declared on goons a member of doomhouse, thus entered a state of warfare with all member alliances tl;dr tpf declared on us but have fun all the same! [/quote] If you are using treaties as an example of who hit who, surely doomhouse hitting NPO would mean you guys declared on TPF first? If we are going by attacks, then certainly mk hit TPF first. Either scenario, using your logic or ours puts mk as the aggressors.

Out of curiosity will the CnG move to put an end to the GOON invasion of the NPO land, thereby re establishing internationally recognized borders?

Here we go again. [IMG]http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r288/mhawkcmaster/HKhipass-1.png[/IMG]

[quote name='neneko' timestamp='1296847461' post='2619437'] He was actually talking about duckrolls support of this attack by ML. Unless I missed when TPF joined DR your response doesn't make a lot of sense. [/quote] He was talking about TFG not being able to know what goes on in DR because "he isn't a member of dr". One would only need to talk to ml a short while to know it is likely TFG knows the workings of ML and their relations extremely well.

[quote name='Shayne Rivai' timestamp='1296841331' post='2619377'] Oh, really? Thanks, bro. I was unaware that you were a member of Duckroll and not only that, but with government access. Would you mind telling me when the next food drive starts? I wasn't at the last DR meeting and I really want to get rid of all this [i]BOLOGNA[/i] that you are dishing out -- I don't need it. (Apologies for the double notification. We had some communications issues during the transmission.) [/quote] Never ever talk about the relation TPF holds with ML when you don't even know a founding member of ML.

[quote name='Seerow' timestamp='1296839935' post='2619364'] Okay, how has this gone on for 19 pages with people still not getting this? Nobody has said that ML is bad for not posting a DoW when defending allies. We have never said it was necessary, and have never said that them not doing so is cowardice. Had anyone bothered to ask MK, we would have acknowledged that we were at war with TPF, and whoever else we have a war or two declared on. There simply was no need to clutter the OWF with announcements for each one, particularly when we're only dedicating one or two nations to that front. I mean, could you hear the trolling? "LOL MK declared war on TPF but only declared 2 wars, they're goin downhill man". We are capable of assisting allies without any formal declaration. [/quote] I like that you guys mock and poke fun at all the alliances that declared on multiple alliances and had few wars launched, but then when you do the same thing refuse to make a DoW out of some sort of vanity issue? You guys really are insecure. Either stop making fun of alliances that launch few offensive wars, or start posting up DoW's each time your alliance goes to war.