Logan

[quote name='neneko' timestamp='1296604268' post='2615234'] You guys hit UINE in defense of SLCB. UINE is still at war with SLCB and you guys signed a no re-entry and peaced out. How is my perception warped if I see that as a surrender to UINE? The only reason I posted here was that I was pretty surprised to see tetris surrender. If I misunderstood anything here please enlighten me. [/quote] No terms were placed on us by UINE, white peace is not surrender. We peaced out before SLCB yes, but we did not surrender

[quote name='neneko' timestamp='1296587487' post='2614866'] Since GDA was exclusively at war with you guys and the alliance they entered for was already out of the war I don't really see how this can be seen as anything but a tetris surrender though. Not reentering is a term so this isn't white peace. You guys took a big hit though so I guess it's fine. [/quote] You misunderstood what I said. We have white peace with UINE; and GDA and Tetris have accepted the same term for nonreentry which I would categorize as mutual peace. I do not see how you see this as a surrender to UINE but you can keep that warped perception of reality if you would so wish, I really don't mind that much.

[quote name='neneko' timestamp='1296564390' post='2614596'] Unless I missed something SLCB that tetris entered to protect is still fighting 5 alliances so tetris surrendering here seems a bit odd to me. [/quote] I don't see how you consider a white peace and a mutual peace is surrendering but yeah. Anyways we effectively kept a 3 mill NS alliance from redeclaring in either conflict, and that is essentially what we would be doing if we stayed in the conflict taking more damage.

This is legitimate.

Glad to do business with you MCXA.

This front was screwed up. I'm glad to see it come to a close.

[quote name='Mike Oldfield' timestamp='1296340816' post='2610006'] hmmmm... It's ok for you guys to pre-empt a sanctioned alliance based on shoddy evidence that several people shot holes in, but somehow wrong for our side to hit back? I absolutely love how you do business good sir [/quote] I don't recall anyone ever saying that your side attacking back was "wrong." I don't believe you understand how we do business at all.

This is very amusing, mostly because if I managed to to get out of anarchy I was planning on targeting your nations myself. I had also come to the conclusion that I wasn't going to post a DoW either. Great minds think alike I suppose. Anyways why shouldn't VE be able to attack you? Why should they have to post a DoW to send counter raids on your nations? Sounds like your reasoning is purely arbitrary rules that you believe must be followed or something detrimental will happen to CN. What you guys are posting is a lot of "You can't do this," "You must do that," and to be honest it sounds pretty sad. Besides trying to exclaim how great of an offense this is to your alliance, how about you react instead.

One of my four opponents this far has stood out from the rest. Thanks for all the fun we've had this round BacTalan of GDA.

[quote name='Schad' timestamp='1296240133' post='2607692'] In terms of AAs on the PB et al side that are taking massive damage but holding tight, take a look at Tetris. They've dropped from a pre-war peak of 1.17m to 731k because they're fighting solo against an alliance -- GDA -- with three times the members and NS, plus dribs and drabs of MCXA. Edit: should make clear that I'm not chastising TCU...they were facing terrible odds. More so, it's an indication of the effect that [i]expecting[/i] to win the overall fight can have; it's much easier to soak up damage knowing that there's light at the end of the tunnel (and fearing being "that alliance" who surrendered from the winning side). [/quote] Thanks for the recognition. And yeah taking a slightly higher percentage than TCU has I can say their surrendering isn't too unreasonable. It really takes a special something to keep getting your ass handed to you knowing that there is no help on the way and no chance of victory in sight.

TCU did soak up a considerable amount of damage. Congrats on peace to everyone on that front.

Wasn't expecting this in the least. Good luck on whatever path you decide to take post war.

[quote name='Masterfod' timestamp='1295816159' post='2594368'] Ghost Dows? I'm fairly sure both DoWs on you were legit. You might disagree with the allocation of resources, but to each his own I suppose. And please don't try and use this as a talking point, I do believe everyone is smart enough to see that neither DoW was a ghost one. [/quote] Woah touchy, I was being serious. Everyone says they are taboo, but its refreshing that not all believe that.

I appreciate the use of ghost DoW's. I look forward to the onslaught GDA.

We are truly honored. Thank you.

Welcome to the coalition Legacy. Glad to have you

[quote name='Darth Pollard' timestamp='1295707028' post='2591855'] Our declaration of war on UINE is public. Nothing else is. [/quote] Why are you debating with this guy? Just let him go off and talk to himself.

[quote name='USMC123' timestamp='1295598570' post='2588886'] It's a lot worse when it's a 52K NS nation making such mistakes [/quote] I can do you two better with 85k NS nations swarming my nation with bombers. You think I would lose a ton of infrastructure from all this debris raining down on me

[quote name='Comrade Goby' timestamp='1295625059' post='2589173'] Mines betta! The pictures !@#$@#$ move! Woah Harry Potter! [/quote] No ours is better, it included the activation of a trap card. Luckily Jinzo wasn't on the field. Also thanks Spearo

Our blocks shall not relent! [i]How Keve feels about this: Sad, my alliance is getting rolled. [img]http://i.imgur.com/cn1Wi.png[/img][/i]

[quote name='PotFace' timestamp='1295563586' post='2587295'] What difference does it make? [/quote] I'm sure you guys would be making a big stink about it if everyone who wanted just up and started attacking your alliance.

Welcome to the holy and pious side of the war. We shall vanquish all evil!

[quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1295457679' post='2584016'] No, no it's not. What is this, a two-man strawman tag-team? [/quote] Explain to me then, because all you are saying is "Strawman! Strawman!" when I have no idea what you are referring to. The Orders are all coming in here saying "Oh you are so big and strong attacking Polar with your tiny alliance on the winning side " That is all I see you guys doing, so how does USMC123's statement not match the truth?

[quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1295427489' post='2583571'] Strawman ahoy! [/quote] It is what your buddies are arguing though.

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1295361104' post='2581279'] [color="#0000FF"]Why not just hop aboard the bandwagon right now? No real reason to join? Oh, don't let that get in your way. It didn't seem to stop these guys![/color] [/quote] We could, however my two active wars expire in a couple days and I need to come out of nuke anarchy. We also weren't asked to join quite yet. What's it to you? You seem to be implying that because NpO is out numbered that it is taboo or wrong to join in regardless. Why should I even take that into account? I suppose it would be to try to impose some foreign code of beliefs onto me and limit my freedom. Yes RV, you hate freedom! Edit: Had to fix RV's wonderful color tags.