Rogal Dorn

RIP UJA, I always liked your logo. Good on VE for not leaving GOP hang out there. [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1353437713' post='3055068'] I thought GOP was neutral... [/quote] [quote name='Donkey Kong' timestamp='1353440422' post='3055079'] Soft neutral. This means they reserve the right to intervene in any affair they consider within their sphere of interest, without binding themselves to defensive agreements. This protection agreement does not mandate military assistance from GOP to VE during a normal political conflict. GOP could make such a choice, but it offers other services VE considers worth protecting (economic partnership, assistance with rogues, maybe just being a diverse part of the CN community). Plus they are long-time friends. A lot of [s]treaties[/s] agreements are more than just politics. [/quote] yep. even their wiki page explains it as such

congrats gramlins and argent! love you both you sexy !@#$%^&*. also, the obligatory "roll argent". [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1353372879' post='3054702'] PF being canceled in 5, 4, 3... [/quote] wow, someone has ESP. watch out world. >.>

This is one of the most sad announcements made in quite some time. I'm going to miss seeing BN around bob, you guys were the best. I wish you fine gentlemen good luck in your future endeavors. o/

[quote name='Lorikz Kain' timestamp='1353346433' post='3054549'] Or alliances are conducting business as usual and your seeing something that isn't there. Or, its all in preparation for the coming zombie apocalypse. Or, maybe their leaders have been taken over by imposters. Or maybe, they are just not close to BFF anymore. Or you have some knowledge that DH is planning to attack DR. I personally like the zombie apocalypse reason but your free to choose whatever, after all, its all speculation and assumptions at this point. [/quote] [i][censored] [/i]zombie apocalypse!

This shouldn't be a wiki page, i put nominated it for deletion. Three individuals on two separate AA's vs a real alliance isn't a war. If it must be referenced on the wiki then it would probably be better just written about on the alliance wiki pages. The guys on the micros are just attention seekers because they make a new topic / post all the time and its ridiculous.

[quote name='Sardonic' timestamp='1353259700' post='3054197'] OK two questions: 1. Does this annoying group actually have protection? And if not: 2. Would anybody really care if we waived our membercount requirement for recognition on this sorry group? [/quote] 1. No 2. Please hurry sardonic, we're counting on you guys!

[quote name='Walshington' timestamp='1353209181' post='3053999'] Well, I like the unique (if not always clever) names. They help to differentiate, and give the larger wars more context that just the first two blocs that got into it. Seems like it should be organic, though -- the name should appear, not simply be assigned for cleverness. I voted PB-NpO and Grudge War. That said, I think a bunch of redirects may be in order for the more popular choices. After all, one mans "Civil War" is another man's "War of Northern Aggression". This way, everyone wins - except Winner12345, of course. [/quote] yeah there are already redirects for the other ones, this is to determine the war's wiki page name though.

[quote name='Eumirbago' timestamp='1353201204' post='3053949'] You're gonna wake up with your nation rotting from nuclear rain [/quote] lol eumirbago! and yeah, i agree with USMC up there.

[quote name='PARTYANIMAL123' timestamp='1353198333' post='3053913'] Maybe the North Star federation will help us [/quote] they're under the protection of the dark templar. [url=http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/North_Star_Federation_%282nd%29]link[/url] the reason we (myself included) are being so hard on you is because declaring your existence is you telling the world you are here and first impressions are usually the lasting impression for new alliances. So people usually have all their ducks in a row to show they have their stuff together. like before they DoE they have a protector alliance, they have a flag, they have forums, etc. stereotypically alliances like yours that DoE without a flag, without an announced protector, without an alliance charter, without support etc dont last that long at all. they usually have no idea what they're doing and they make a huge scene on these forums and everyone dislikes them for it.

[quote name='PARTYANIMAL123' timestamp='1353196267' post='3053886'] Why would I declare war that would only lead to the end of my alliance, maybe if you didn't clog up my thread with crap I'd shut up and not bother you. [/quote] We're asking legitimate questions. like what alliance is protecting you guys, because so far there is no answer from you and no alliance has stepped forward claiming you guys.

[quote name='salsabeast1' timestamp='1353195949' post='3053884'] Attack Sengoku, and see what happens with your larger amount of nations. I knew with IAFG "merging" you guys were doomed, but you too are proving to be an idiot. Congrats! [/quote] lol, I wish I was at 5k NS again, oh the fun I would have

[quote name='PARTYANIMAL123' timestamp='1353192898' post='3053869'] Too bad we are protected so suck on it. [/quote] ouch! how can i ever come back from such an affront! D: [quote name='PARTYANIMAL123' timestamp='1353192977' post='3053870'] Plus we have more nations than your alliance. [/quote] Awww, you can count! *golf clap* [quote name='Bob Ilyani' timestamp='1353195413' post='3053880'] Wow. This can only end [i]beautifully.[/i] Tell me, what alliance is actually protecting you, and who in their gov are you related to? I honestly don't see anyone rational actually protecting this thing. [/quote] took the words right out of my mouth Bob.

i think this is the first time ever that i want to see an alliance to get raided. >.>

[quote name='wickedj' timestamp='1353134611' post='3053627'] Am i having an old moment or was this just signed like a month or two ago.. [/quote] yeah, [url=http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=113014]september 6th between BFF and TORN[/url].

I'll let this thing go for a bit more before I rename any pages and such.

schizophrenic pony war xD

[quote name='Crymson' timestamp='1353031561' post='3053116'] I am indeed somewhat hurt at how we were treated in this situation [/quote] TOP's actions the past few months have been pissing off more of your allies than just IRON and I know you know that so how you're shocked is beyond me.

[quote name='Gingervites' timestamp='1353043517' post='3053232'] 10 bucks this will accomplish nothing. [/quote] My thoughts exactly ginger, mainly because of magicman being inactive so i doubt he will respond in 24 hours and recent actions by tpf, gato, argent.

best of luck to both of you guys and gals in your future endeavors. o7

[quote name='The Pansy' timestamp='1352871678' post='3052165'] Neither of you are in range I hate being fat [/quote] trim the fat!

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1352859999' post='3052067'] Love the graphics, who made it? [/quote] 'tis the ever awe inspiring Tronix!

i do believe i just wet myself (in a good way) congrats Ai and Argent. love you both!

congratulations you guys

[quote name='Lady Dakota' timestamp='1352755327' post='3051486'] Farrin, please read the red and bold text carefully. Most likely if they were to enter war, it would be due to treaties or blocs. Which would leave defense as optional, thus a maybe. Though seeing as they are deeply rooted in their friendships, NG would defend NPO and likewise. But still with the wording, I'm calling it the MaybePact. [/quote] Its a standard MnDoAP... whats so hard about this that you cant wrap your mind around the concept? Congrats NG and Pacifica o/

[quote name='Gingervites' timestamp='1352504847' post='3050615'] Make my nation a page or I will steal your cookies [/quote] [url=http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Gingervites]doneski[/url] [quote name='commanderragnar' timestamp='1352490243' post='3050537'] I'd like one please [/quote] hokay, hit me up... later this week, i should be good then [quote name='Ayatollah Bromeini' timestamp='1352617446' post='3050968'] LSF's wiki is a bit of a mess... if you could tidy it up a bit for us, that would be great. [/quote] ummm, I can take a look. what kind of stuff did you have in mind trotsky? [quote name='Hereno' timestamp='1352680883' post='3051208'] I can't believe nobody has asked why you are getting surgery yet. .... Why are you having surgery? [/quote] meh, i dont really care that no one asked, im not hurt by it either. im just getting my tonsils out, nothing crazy, no sob story. [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1352682137' post='3051221'] I want a page about how awesome I'm and how I (don't) had/have a key role in CN politics. [/quote] [url=http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/D34th?action=edit&preload=Template:Nation_infobox_code]you can start here[/url] [quote name='Dragonshy' timestamp='1352685467' post='3051230'] Could you give me some advice on how to spruce up my nation's wiki page? [/quote] Hey dragonshy, I'm making the assumption that you do the nation RP stuff for my response... I'd say check out some of the nations in this category for some ideas. [url=http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Good_Nation_Pages]Category:Good Nation Pages[/url] Some good examples would be (imo) [url=http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Disparu]Disparu[/url] by Pikachurin, [url=http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Grand_Besaid]Grand Besaid[/url] by Dynasty1, [url=http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Gro%C3%9Fgermania]Grossgermania[/url] by Michael von Preussen. Also, you can drop a message on some of these guys talk pages on the wiki. I know they do the nation RP stuff. I don't really partake in that sort of stuff, when I was bored last deployment I messed around with nation RP stuff for a few hours at a computer and that's the extent of my nation RP stuff. However, if you mean what type of non-RP stuff to add to make pages like these about individuals and their CN history... Here's what I always ask people when I'm making wiki pages for people. [i]"From the time you created your nation until now going through each alliance you've been in tell me who you joined, why you joined them, what YOU DID while you were there, any positions you held, any wars you fought, any awards you got (links to them if possible) and anything else you want to put on your wiki page."[/i] If that's your thing then here's some pages i've made for people, [url=http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/User:RogalDorn/resume]link[/url] Hope that helps.