Kalasin

[quote name='Yevgeni Luchenkov' timestamp='1322697804' post='2857363'] They aren't forged. We recognized them as valid both in private and in public. [/quote] Yeah exactly. It's just some other guy made some asinine post where he accused Dajobo of forgery, so I corrected him. [quote name='Yevgeni Luchenkov' timestamp='1322697804' post='2857363'] We simply pointed out that those terms were not only TOP's doing. That's about it. As for our part, we never shied away from it. [/quote] Here we are agreed.

[quote name='NoMercy' timestamp='1322675510' post='2857096'] He didn't. IIRC I wasn't directly involved in the talks, but I remember that Crymson was the spokesman, not the decision maker. So, if you want to blame it on somebody, you can blame it on all Q-alliances (except Grämlins) but not TOP alone. [/quote] Sure. I'm not saying TOP was solely responsible. I'm simply saying that those logs aren't forged and people really were forced out of government.

[quote name='Lord Curzon' timestamp='1322636017' post='2856699'] Bottom line: You thought your buddies would reward you for your duplicity on their behalf with a better political position. You thought wrong. Now you pay. [/quote] I have made it abundantly clear in this thread and other threads how much I can't stand Grub or the New Polar Order, but you're wrong here. Before TOP hit C&G and Polar defended them, relations between Polar and MK had seriously deteriorated. It was obvious to everyone, including Grub, that a rubicon had been crossed and MK and Polar were going to part ways afterwards. NpO's political capital had taken a serious hit and was not going to recover. So I don't think you're right that he did what he did to better his political position, he did it for three reasons: 1) because he hated TOP 2) to stir things up 3) to massage his own ego and exercise NpO's (at the time) considerable political power (a point which is somewhat related to #2.)

It would have been hilariously awesome if you actually had hit someone.

It is somewhat sad to see NV's former bloc hit their longtime ally.

[quote name='FlogYou' timestamp='1322618179' post='2856252'] May I have a go.... [21:01] <~Dajoboowhoo[NpO]> I'm a little teapot [21:02] <~Dajoboowhoo[NpO]> liquid comes out of me that's pretty easy, we can all manufacture logs (some better than others) In reference to the bolded statement, do you drink red or white? [/quote] Oh come on, you don't think anyone seriously believes Dajobo forged those logs? I had access to MCXA's high government boards with a pinned thread on the secret terms and I can confirm this.

D34th, I may really find most of your posts asinine, but I have to say you do make great propaganda. [quote name='Brandon' timestamp='1322587380' post='2855880'] Thank god you aren't NPO anymore, stupid comments like this man.. [/quote] Don't worry, you have plenty of other stupid posters.

[quote name='AlmightyGrub' timestamp='1322612304' post='2856190'] Funnily enough, I obviously knew enough about politics to get to where I did in the first place. I haven't suddenly forgotten what it takes, I am just unprepared to make the effort at this time. I got what I wanted, I worked hard to be in a position to have that opportunity and now I, being incredibly aware, know there is SFA I can do about it. I resigned as Emperor because I was time-poor and I knew I did not have sufficient to try to fix the situation. I choose instead to taunt you and yours at when I see fit for my own amusement. Rest assured it still amuses me. I am very happy to be hated, it sits well with me. Don't think I don't understand what I do. I just don't understand why so many of you care. [/quote] Yes, which is exactly why you are all the more contemptible. You threw away everything you had built up, sold out your allies and enemies alike and spent Polar's entire political capital just to 'stir things up'. That's not the actions of a responsible alliance leader. You're supposed to do what's best for your alliance and your allies, not follow your own whims and squander the trust others placed in you, including members of your own alliance. I'm surprised anyone remained tied to you whatsoever. The fact that an alliance as close to you as NV would downgrade and cancel with you should give you some idea of how deeply you betrayed everyone involved, but you can't see past your own ego. The only substantial alliance who actually kept a treaty with you was STA, and that was only due to the depth of their relationship with you prior to BiPolar. As Pezstar has said so eloquently in this thread, even STA aren't happy with you.

[quote name='AlmightyGrub' timestamp='1322611571' post='2856182'] Whether people are out to get me is of no concern to me. I can assess myself objectively, I am an !@#$%^&, so what? That you don't love me is of little concern, I didn't seek your love to start with. [/quote] I know. That's why you're politically isolated and currently getting rolled with no hope of victory. Public opinion does matter. You know this, you played the victim post-WotC too well not to understand it.

[quote name='AlmightyGrub' timestamp='1322610979' post='2856174'] The irony of your statement is overwhelming...you really are that keen to have a go at me aren't you [/quote] Maybe you should stop accusing everyone of being out to get you and lose the persecution complex. If you assessed yourself objectively, which you won't do because your ego forbids it, you might realise there's a reason everyone can't stand you.

I have been saving up to go rogue for a couple of months. The people I'm hitting including Proximus, Pingu, Cortath, that Kevin guy from NSO and half of TIO. And possibly these silly Solitude folks but they are a bit small to bother with.

[quote name='James Dahl' timestamp='1322528601' post='2855220'] Of course. [/quote] In that case, I take back my statement and await your declaration of war with anticipation. I suppose RIA don't want to be outdone by UPN.

[quote name='James Dahl' timestamp='1322527837' post='2855199'] We have been ready and willing since last Monday. We're waiting like everyone else is. [/quote] So you confirm that you're going to honour your treaty with NpO?

[quote name='James Dahl' timestamp='1322464542' post='2854622'] We signed a treaty of Non-Aggression with IRON and we will honor that treaty. Just because treaties are "small" treaties does not mean you can just ignore then when you don't want to. [/quote] Why did you sign with NpO if you weren't prepared to fight for them in their hour of need? It was obvious this war was near. Cowards, the lot of you.

[quote name='James Wilson' timestamp='1322459425' post='2854398'] The concept your alliance is based on aggravates me. On behalf of all true christians, Burn in Hell. [/quote] You don't speak for anything of the sort.

[quote name='Draztikus' timestamp='1322329007' post='2852638'] Even if we lose, we're not going anywhere so "bye-Polar" is pretty dumb. [/quote] "Even" if you lose?

Actually, my respect for UPN shot up with this. Well done.

I may not like you much STA but this was honourable. Not that I expected otherwise from you.

Destroy them TOP.

[quote name='Ayatollah Bromeini' timestamp='1322205824' post='2850886'] Socialist [b]Insanity[/b]. Think about it. [/quote] I saw your post three seconds after mine. [quote name='Kalasin' timestamp='1322205625' post='2850882'] I'm assuming it's one of the SF ones. [/quote] Damn I'm good. When do you cancel the other one?

Couldn't you just say what alliance you cancelled on? Honestly, most people won't keep track of INT's treaties. I'm assuming it's one of the SF ones.

[quote name='Lusitan' timestamp='1322198092' post='2850815'] I am not exactly sure what I or Umbrella have to do with TOP planning or not to hit them, but my joking comment was directed at you saying that "you hope their upper tier gets destroyed" which is why I answered that "it's because of people like you" - who wish such things to happen - "that we never get a NpO target". But, ok. [/quote] Ah. My apologies. VE got all the fun last time, it's rather ironic the position they're in now.

[quote name='Lusitan' timestamp='1322192330' post='2850780'] It's because of people like you we never get targets out of NpO. [/quote] No, it's because people like you can't keep it quiet when you're planning to hit them. Or more specifically, TOP. Hence the mass exodus to peacemode.

[quote name='Zombie Glaucon' timestamp='1322174640' post='2850631'] Your butthurt is unrelenting. [/quote] Actually, I have no personal grudge with NpO, so the butthurt line doesn't fly. There are so many reasons you deserve to endure a war so devastating that you never again regain sanction that they don't bear listing. I hope your upper tier is totally destroyed.

Excellent, now NpO won't escape getting rolled in the next war. I'm surprised they found anyone who would take them but I suppose SF aren't exactly spoiled for choice.