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[quote name='Penkala' date='30 March 2010 - 02:55 AM' timestamp='1269914139' post='2240653'] Deal. We'll give you peace, blindside you while demilitarized, run you into the ground and down to 25 members, then give you an ultimatum: 2 weeks of open warfare, and white peace, or peace mode forever. Done deal.[/quote] FAN had 25 members when the ultimatum was given?. Seriously do you even think before posting or post the first rage infused gibberish that comes to mind? Aleast familarise yourself with the historical facts before wasting everyone else's time with such useless drivel.

[quote name='Tomcat' date='27 March 2010 - 10:14 AM' timestamp='1269684844' post='2238195'] At the very least, that I got you to lower yourself off that high horse long enough to mention my name is good enough for me. [/quote] Congratulations, would you like a medal now?

[quote name='Xiphosis' date='26 March 2010 - 09:06 PM' timestamp='1269637575' post='2237652'] [IMG]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y9/MAR-Peeves/sexy_party.jpg[/IMG] Couldn't have happened to a classier alliance. [/quote] And here I thought they attacked ADI and not GOD

I think we might have some sort of NPO curse in place. MHA seems to be loving dropping score atm

[quote name='Penlugue Solaris' date='18 March 2010 - 06:54 PM' timestamp='1268938813' post='2229427'] You are lecturing others on decorum? Well done. I was being polite I have much stronger emotions then that in regards to this treaty. [/quote] I know right, How dare they excersise their soverignity and sign a low level treaty with the "other side". Truly despicable behaviour Iunctus.

[quote name='Londo Mollari' date='13 March 2010 - 12:31 AM' timestamp='1268440629' post='2223773'] We did have EZI on the books at one time. We never actually [i]carried out[/i] an EZI sentence in game, although I did have one guy talk to me and apologize for previous actions when he rejoined CN after a long break. In contrast, alliances like NPO and GGA kept people on EZI for months and years at a time, even when the people wanted off of them very badly and just wanted to [OOC]play again[/OOC]. Not every hegemony alliance acted like this, but many of them did. It's the difference between one state which has capital punishment on the books, and another state which executes thousands of people on the slightest of pretexts. You can't compare us to you, sorry.[/quote] Not carrying something out doesnt mean you find the practise disgusting. If you did you wouldnt have opted out of the ZI pact or w/e that you mention in the op I linked to. Nice try, not good enough though. [quote]Allowed =/= Practiced [/quote] Huh? If they allowed it then obviously they didnt think it was such a bad then thing did they? Atleast not to the point of decrying it as some great injustice. It's like an alliance that allows raids on NONE but doesnt actually ever raid decrying another alliance which actually raids NONE as evil/injust.

[quote name='ktarthan' date='12 March 2010 - 11:51 PM' timestamp='1268438200' post='2223737'] The part where you quoted his statement about PC having character in a thread about PC and started your statement with the word "and" without further reframing it at all sure made it look that way. If you had simply answered my initial question like a normal person instead of layering on the , this could have been [b]so[/b] much easier. [/quote] But where would be the fun in that? Edit: What can I say, I love my double negatives.

[quote name='ktarthan' date='12 March 2010 - 11:20 PM' timestamp='1268436363' post='2223692'] Your inability to debate has been noted. You shall [b]not[/b] be taken seriously the next time a post is made by you. Thank you, Ktarthan [/quote] You dont know the meaning of debate. Your posts shall not be read next time. Thank you, Sk yeah I am bored. Edit: not worth it Where did I say that I was countering Londos post about Pc's character? I am just saying its funny how he says that for an alliance to have character they shouldnt Pzi people, I pointed out that indeed Londo's own alliance Athens did the same thing until 10 days before K war, which he claims was to end there injustices. Do you in point in my post see me claiming that PC doesnt not have character or something? Nope my post's point was to call out Londo on his bs that he somehow fought some moral crusade during Karma war against injustices of unthinkable proportions, when his own alliance allowed similar practises just 10 days before Karma war.

[quote name='ktarthan' date='12 March 2010 - 11:06 PM' timestamp='1268435526' post='2223674'] Thanks for (sort of) answering my question and confirming what I thought - it was just a really bad rebuttal and you didn't address Londo's statement at all. [/quote] Your opinion has been noted. It shall [b]not[/b] be taken into account next time a post is made by me. Thank you, Sk

[quote name='ktarthan' date='12 March 2010 - 10:52 PM' timestamp='1268434690' post='2223657'] I direct you to this post: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=82518&view=findpost&p=2223650 It has a question in it. Answering it shouldn't be too hard now, should it? I see that the person asserting that PC has character is in Athens. However they are talking about the character of PC, and not Athens. Either your point has some subtext that I'm missing or it's a really bad rebuttal. [/quote] *sigh* I guess I'll have to explain it to you. See Londo said PC has character because they dont P/Ezi people like ex-hegemony. And I showed that infact Athen did the same thing. Now either Londo is sayin that Athens itself didnt have any character/honour or he is talking out of his $@! again(something he clearly loves). I'll let you be the judge of that. [quote name='Ashoka the Great' date='12 March 2010 - 10:53 PM' timestamp='1268434701' post='2223660'] I don't know if he's joking, but I'm laughing pretty hard at your sig. [/quote] Yeah get in line to criticise my [i][b]War[/b][/i] time sig. I guess I am not one of those people who cares much about updating their sigs. Although it is getting tiring replying to posts about my sig maybe one of these days I'll just have to update it

[quote name='ktarthan' date='12 March 2010 - 10:44 PM' timestamp='1268434203' post='2223650'] How does Athens having had an EZI policy cause PC to have less character? I'm not sure what your angle is here. [/quote] I direct you to this post: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=82518&view=findpost&p=2223636 Reading just 1 post above mine shouldnt be too hard now, should it?

[quote name='Londo Mollari' date='12 March 2010 - 10:29 PM' timestamp='1268433294' post='2223636'] PC does have character. For instance, they don't live to EZI players out of the game or disband alliances, both of which were hallmarks of your former bloc One Vision. Had Karma not happened you would still be doing that kind of crap. Do you really think people will forget your crimes that easily? Do you think that those of us who remember them will let that happen?[/quote] http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=53756 And you cancelled your EZi policy on 11 april, 10 days before Karma war. Man its like you got selective Amnesia or something.

First you mention "worst Hegemon poster" and then follow it with "Earth's worst poster". Maybe we need the stupidest person on Earth poll and have you as the only option.

[quote]Please tell me you are joking. Please?[/quote] Its like 2008 never happened.

[quote name='Jgoods45' date='12 March 2010 - 07:59 PM' timestamp='1268424271' post='2223545'] You know, I don't remember seeing Athens posting all over these forums !@#$%*ing about paying reps in the nocb war. I really don't. We accepted defeat and payed the damn reps and moved on. [/quote] Please tell me you are joking. Please?

[quote name='goldielax25' date='09 March 2010 - 11:37 PM' timestamp='1268178172' post='2219845'] If you edit VE's page I would get an email saying what the edits were. If they were fraudulent I would report the user. That Echelon chose to ignore their wiki for two months, which was changed to show that SBA was no longer protected, is unfortunate. What you should have said to PC is something along the lines of 'hey, we are protecting this alliance, contrary to what our wiki says, so please stop your attacks'. PC would have stopped, and that would have been the end of it. Instead you guys decide that PC should pay for your mistake and ignorance, and that is 'unbelievable' rationale. [/quote] Since when did it become the responsibility of the raided alliance to inform the raiders if they are protected or not? Blaming the victim seems to be the new trend around here.

Public polls are always awesome

[quote name='Rocky Horror' date='28 February 2010 - 03:38 PM' timestamp='1267371709' post='2208335'] No need to bring complications in here. The long and the short version was that they had an optional (implying choice) aggression pact with an aggressor. There was no obligation (implying imperative). [/quote] I was going to reply with how chaining treaties work, but then I read Iron-TOOL treaty and its non-chaining as far as I can tell. Guess you were right . Oh and the activated optional defense not optional agression.

[quote]I'm sure you've played this game long enough to know what the oA stands for in MDoAP, dear. There was an option to act in aggression and they took it. Don't try and attach any further connotation to the word, you wouldn't be doing anyone any favours.[/quote] Is the concept of chaining and non chaining treaties really that hard to understand?

[quote name='Xiphosis' date='28 February 2010 - 06:43 AM' timestamp='1267339619' post='2207830'] You say seven alliances but let's be realistic, it's 3 defensive wars for a few weeks. Not enough to drain any decent warchest. [/quote] Now if we were talking about GOD, you know the alliance which probably has one of the worst wars per member figure, your statement would be true. But for standup alliances like TOOL there is a thing called offensive wars as well.

[quote name='Dochartaigh' date='28 February 2010 - 06:27 AM' timestamp='1267338654' post='2207785'] ooooh... they have 208 members. so obviously it will be a cake walk. let's forget the fact that TOOL just fought how many alliances? not to mention has lost around 50% of their total NS and has almost half their alliance in anarchy at the moment. nah, lets forget the trivial stuff and just point out they have a lot of members. i mean trying to take care of their own alliance means nothing. honestly, it may be simple but will almost certainly continue to harm TOOL while they have to pay and frankly, there is no reason for that. [/quote] Hey now lets not forget next time they attack them peace will not be so "easy"

[quote name='Xiphosis' date='28 February 2010 - 05:59 AM' timestamp='1267336999' post='2207724'] Be happy, TOOL. You'll never see terms this light in the future. I will promise that. [/quote] You are quite hilarious sometimes, you know that?

[quote name='King Louis the II' date='28 February 2010 - 05:28 AM' timestamp='1267335095' post='2207662'] If you really believe this man, so you don't talk to other people in your alliance. You should ask your top nations about their encounter with Sparta. You can disagree with us, you can hate us, but to say bad things about Spartan performence is just a big lie. It was not casual that our ranking position and our average NS didn't drop as much as the majority of alliances. Even when we are at war with TOP/IRON, which btw I consider good opponents. [/quote] You sure it had nothing to do with a lot of your top ranks staying in Peace mode while your allies fought in the upper ranks. say for example yew gate(your strongest nation)

[quote name='Penlugue Solaris' date='28 February 2010 - 05:07 AM' timestamp='1267333854' post='2207612'] [b]Offer me a situation. I'll give you my personal opinion on if the reparations are within reason. No one decides what an alliance is capable of paying, its a complete matter of opinion on if its acceptable or not.[/b] You seem to think I'm upset with you? Not at all. I am upset with your choice of allies and the conduct of some of your members, but I actually like TOOL as an alliance. [/quote] Fair enough, in this situation I guess we can agree to disagree.

[quote name='Penlugue Solaris' date='28 February 2010 - 04:59 AM' timestamp='1267333378' post='2207583'] [b]I only can do so much when given so little to work with.[/b] Give me an amount, and compare it to their tech levels at the end of the war. Also, please read my posts. MK had forced wonder decom, which is never acceptable. [/quote] Feeling is mutual bud. MK was at war for 13 days whereas TOOL was at war for a month, again who decides what an alliance is capable of paying? An alliance can pay huge reps but it will take a long time, but that doesnt mean its not capable of paying it.