IYIyTh

God forbid two alliances continue having relations with one another. Congratulations to both.

[quote name='New Frontier' timestamp='1312128121' post='2768282'] MHA is boring and useless from both an IC and an OOC point of view. [/quote] Boring is defined in this community as the absence of the tendency to be suicidal for others entertainment and/or exhibiting unwarranted hubris. Ergo, useless by the same standard is equally inaccurate.

[quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1312101324' post='2768158'] At least NPO had some balls. [/quote] Original. 3/10. Would have been better if it was in an IC forum. Edit: Not that you can probably tell the difference.

[quote name='New Frontier' timestamp='1312087274' post='2768058'] Are you sure about that? I can think of several times that Pacifica lost #1 (GOONS, GPA, I think FAN and IRON but am not sure) during their time at the top of CN's political world, whereas MHA has been in first stats-wise consistently for quite some time. [/quote] This man is correct, I'm pretty sure we've held it consecutively the longest now.

Yeah, you deserve a big thank you. I've done my fair share of lists in my time, and this is certainly a big one.

:/ This is nuts.

Congratulations Emma, and Hooligans

[quote name='Charles Stuart' timestamp='1311844312' post='2766051'] Was this topic meant to announce the formation of a new bloc or that Grub's insanity has become worse? [/quote] Consider both a success. As channel-congratuled earlier in the day, hats off to Janax, as well as some older friends to MHA as well. Lookin' goooooooooood.

[quote name='EpsilonPhoenix' timestamp='1311823670' post='2765872'] Really? Instead of someone posting the usual "This is ruining CN" topic someone actually made a thread to discuss ideas on what to do about it. It may not be the best approach but it's definitely a step up from the usual bull%&* we get. Chill Out. [/quote] Yes really. This is the dime a dozen thread that suggests things that the admin do rather what this individual person do to fix the game. If you're not having fun, don't play. You won't be missed.

[quote name='Franz Ferdinand' timestamp='1311801383' post='2765545'] Put all players into two alliances, either Terrorists or Counter-Terrorists. This will resolve all the problems currently facing the community. [/quote] Alright I laughed.

[quote name='Vladisvok Destino' timestamp='1311796036' post='2765491'] But if you declare on the whole alliance, then you get pages of people crying about how cruel you are for attacking the whole alliance when their leader has $%&@ed up (see VE-GDI War.) Clearly Olympus wanted to spare us that trauma, but AcTi had to ruin it [/quote] When you declare on one member of an alliance, no matter how retarded, asinine and backwards that individual is, you are declaring on the entire alliance. Olympus is giving Bat a well-deserved rolling, and AcTi will take it up the pipe as well because they have allowed him to remain in AcTi for another event like this to happen. Being uninvolved it's clear that Bat deserves the rolling and that Teddy has done the right thing and considered an attack against one member to be an attack against all. It's just what it is. Hopefully Olympus lets AcTi off with one or two weeks of war and Bat is forced to pay what if any reps demanded.

[quote name='MitchellBade' timestamp='1311795730' post='2765486'] Judging from the DoW's alone, I believe there was ample communication on the matter before AcTi escalated it. Olympus declared that they were only going after Batallion and sparing the rest of AcTi from his fate, which they were adhering to at the outset of the war. Then Teddyyo acknowledges in his DoW that Olympus is only attacking Batallion but rushes the rest of AcTi to his defense and declares on Olympus. The escalation is solely on teddyyo. [/quote] To be fair, you can't just declare on one member of an alliance. I'm fully in support of this war. Call it what it is.

[quote name='Vanilla Napalm' timestamp='1311775989' post='2765212'] GPA or Sparta would annihilate TOP too from that perspective. [/quote] IRON beat Ramlins.

[quote name='Charles Stuart' timestamp='1311768459' post='2765130'] More mergers, less protectorates and micros. The issue isn't people joining the game because people continue to sign up, the issue is people remaining in the game, people stick around for the sense of community found in an alliance. It's sad to say but larger alliances have larger and better developed communities than smaller ones. [/quote] Mergers usually don't make the game more interesting, they just put already like-minded people into one alliance, usually having the opposite effect of containing them by shrinking their government to even more pragmatic leadership. Here's a perfect example: Zoom x3 was the leader of PC, and is not even a part of the Triumvirate of NG.

How dare you show solidarity for your alliance. I am outraged. Carbon Copy insult here:

[quote name='janax' timestamp='1311775994' post='2765213'] Everyone knows it's Row Quen Ton [/quote] Very close Row Quen ten.

Through my many chats with Roquentin, it was clear that CN was becoming less fun for him, or "her," as many liked calling Roq. I can honestly say that given the relationship I personally had in contact with Roquentin, without such a leader I could never have seen the relationship my alliance has had lasting with Umbrella the way it has to this day. Many cheers, and a bitter-sweet moment knowing that you're gone. Take care and all the best. Ally and Friend, IYIyTh.

[quote name='Jgoods45' timestamp='1311760003' post='2765072'] Bat was attacked for what he said about a member of Olympus. Not for what he believes in the real world. Big difference. :3 [/quote] Not in the slightest. From the OP, opening statement: "Olympus cannot condone the actions of your leader that night, the OOC attack." I've seen the actual log dump, and it's definetly reprehensible. Just wondering where the people defending the OOC belief of a certain ideology are, figuring they would be defending the equally disgusting OOC opinion BAT has of WickedJ. (Or, what he belives in the real world, as you say.) Then again, the OOC/IC line in this game has never really existed in this game. Have fun Olympus.

Banning people who post topics like this rather than making things interesting on their own boards. Create your own drama if you can't get enough here. Srsly.

Weird how OOC reasons for one war are acceptable but in another instance are treated as world-policing. That said, love you Joe. Have fun

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA what? Seriously?

[quote name='chefjoe' timestamp='1311701338' post='2764261'] They have no one to blame but themselves for the above. [/quote] I still wonder had the whole thing had been successful how different the game would be, as well as the opinions of the users in this thread on an identical ODP. I guess we'll never know.

True enough, but once again the mark is missed. This continual march against ideals broadly attributable to that catch-all term moralism is really rather tiresome at this point. CBs do not tie your hands, your treaty web ties your hands. It is not a need for CBs that has put in place MDP after MDP after MDP between SF, C&G, XX, PB, and DH. It isn't "need for CBs" that put an ODOAP in place between Mjolnir and PB the day after Mj was signed and heralded as a new center separated from the rest. Like alcoholics in denial, your game as you want it played won't happen until you surrender to the truth and stop looking everywhere but the mirror for the causes and the solutions. But I like alcohol.

Come on, you have to admit, this was necessary.

[quote name='Necromancer V4L' timestamp='1311664467' post='2764000'] You know, in reality this is a very ballsy move for Polaris, politically. By seeking to tie themselves to a stable bloc connection, they chose to go towards XX, in which they had very little friendship established, forgoing a more traditional approach of working towards relations with ex-Hegemony. Considering their last treaty fiasco, Legion, I would say that this is a step forward towards Polaris putting itself in a survivable position. They do have a pretty horrid reputation at the moment, and that is of course why you are seeing Spartans and Harmless and R&Rer's in here stressing the "Optional" part of this whole mess, because in reality FARK is telling them, "Hey, I know Polar isn't our first choice of a viable ally, but we should give them a chance, you know, get to know them, maybe we'll PIAT or ODP them or something and just talk to them for a while." It will be interesting to see how Mergerberger and RandomInterrupt, Carfre Inpor and the rest of the gang play their cards here. Who knows what'll happen, they might even pull it off. (Doubtful) [/quote] This operates under the assumption they were given more (or better,) alternatives. [quote name='janax' timestamp='1311650807' post='2763825'] TO be fair, this is the OWF. There's not a lot to insult. [/quote] I must be insane. I keep thinking people will change, and I just walk away like I do every Sunday morning. Disappointed and in need of a shower.