Kowalski

[quote name='mrwuss' timestamp='1323326448' post='2868775'] CoJ is next. [/quote] I'm not rebuilding after this war just so I can get in on this.

[quote name='NoFish' timestamp='1323323215' post='2868621'] You're not particularly happy with it, so you're going to embroil two alliances in the conflict who had no reason to be involved. They gave no indication of their neutrality - aside from, of course, the fact that they hadn't entered the war - until after people were made aware that you going to attack them? So, once again. Is it the responsibility of an alliance to report their neutrality to the Doomhouse Hegemony or risk being rolled? [/quote] Lusitan has already answered this - if you're in an alliance that has treaty chains to someone engaged against an ally of ours then yes, it might be a sensible and responsible option to consider the possibility that our paths may cross at some point in the future. Unless indicated otherwise we're going to assume that you're coming in at some point, not entering the war yet isn't a good enough indication of neutrality unless you're a neutral alliance. It's an indication that you haven't entered the war yet.

[quote name='Sandwich Controversy' timestamp='1323320058' post='2868361'] Doomhome thinks the world will let them get away with ANOTHER preempt, especially after they just condemned Fark for doing it [/quote] No we don't, and no we didn't.

We're selling infra at ridiculously low prices!!!

[quote]The awkward moment when this guy doesn't realize Sparta has no reason to be crossed out of the picture......I'm pretty sure the 501st didn't destroy the Jedi temple and then everyone said "Yep the Clone Troopers are out of this war" lol dude come on I mean I knew IRON as full of dip s**** I mean that's stupid even coming from a IRON member. [/quote] He's in BAPS not IRON and I think he's marking out the ones that BAPS are fighting, but why he'd expect MHA and RNR to declare on a !@#$house alliance like BAPS is beyond me.

Have fun and give 'em hell guys. Revenge is sweet.

Good luck Sparta.

What a brilliant move. I'm not sure of tactically astute it is but we should have more stuff like this, and even the 'lolwut' brigade or those banging on about RIA or Fark's treaty with Polar should admit that. [quote name='Derwood1' timestamp='1322890676' post='2859986'] I thought FAN had better taste then hangin out with Fark..... [/quote] What the hell gave you that idea? [quote name='Varianz' timestamp='1322892596' post='2860163'] 1. We didn't. 2. You just implied your ally sucks. [/quote] 1. You did. 2. They do.

I see a lot of butthurt (either that or crummy attempts at amateur psychology) here because SF aren't getting drawn into this as quickly as some would like. Patience, people, patience.

[quote name='Darth Banana' timestamp='1322634081' post='2856649'] Wow, I almost thought GPA would finally get up and roll all of us! Best fake DoW so far, like many others I almost went for it XD Go Neutrals, I await the day for your great arrival in war [/quote] But...they're neutral.

[quote name='NewPoseidon' timestamp='1322633522' post='2856635'] A wonderful declaration of worthlessness from the GPA. Of all the non-DoW Dow's in my time, none of them were in any way clever, enlightening, or entertaining. I wish you people would stop wasting my time. Go sit in your hole and play with your infra. [/quote] This is an opinion I can get behind.

I'm sure RIA will !@#$ their pants upon reading this and immediately jump in.

I really did think that this was going to be a DoW.

[quote name='Schad' timestamp='1322353330' post='2853029'] It didn't need to be made, but we had to make it...we wrote into the charter that a DoS has to be made if the original war isn't a bloc-wide declaration. Can't quite remember why we did so, but there it is. [/quote] Wow. I did think why there would be a clause insisting on an outdated, unnecessary and sometimes counterproductive piece of bureaucracy, but I guess some the Citadel lives on in PF. o/ Pillowfort

[quote name='Bob Ilyani' timestamp='1322291343' post='2852035'] Seriously though, this should surprise no one. [/quote] I agree, it's almost as if this announcement didn't need to be made.

What a stupid thread. God help us should anyone else feel the need to start a new thread every time a baseless and throwaway accusation is made. Sometimes trying to 'prove' someone wrong makes you look like a bigger dick than the original accusation.

[quote name='wickedj' timestamp='1320979375' post='2843015'] Congrats to umbrella for aquiring yet another Polar-like meatshield/tech farm [/quote] As far as I'm aware this is the first.

Congrats to my good friends in Umbrella and someone somewhere for something.

Umbrella/Fark MDoAP announced.

Congrats on your many victories, especially the one that will not be named. WAE next year should be interesting.

An alliance so awesome that it disbanded twice. Congrats.

Good luck zoom, keep on rolling.

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1318015843' post='2819974'] The idea that people should/can get all the info they need on IRC is also laughable; it's like saying you should go to the mall to get news instead of watching the news or reading a newspaper. [/quote] [quote name='Feanor Noldorin' timestamp='1318022247' post='2820088'] Well said. [/quote] The two of you consider IRC to be an inferior source of information to the OWF? Probably explains a lot.

[quote name='Maverick87' timestamp='1317914972' post='2818529'] Quick summary... Legion DoW's Tetris NsO/NSO come in on MD clauses to support their allies in Tetris BTA/IAA come in on oA clauses to support their allies in NsO TLR/GATO come in "financially" to support their allies in IAA. What I don't get is where the hell is VE? Don't they have an MDoAP with Tetris? [/quote] How much do you wish you could delete your own threads?

Fair enough, although I still think people aren't as interested in an accepted process anymore. Updating the wiki, posting DoW's before attacking, announcing treaty changes, there's less interest in 'following the rules' regarding them and anyone who whines about it is branded a whinging moralist. Even things like declarations of support and election/gov change threads seem horribly outdated. Most alliance business is done on IRC where the same information that appears on the wiki or here is readily available, so anything officially published just comes across as posturing. Times change, and I wouldn't be surprised of all that stuff was sub-consciously linked to pre-Karma and a willingness to adopt new ways with fewer rules to follow is a reaction to that.