Jamacus

Honourable: MK Immoral: PC Amoral: FAN (in the true sense of the word- most people here don't seem to know what 'amoral' means) Isolated: FAN Entangled: FOK Powerful: MK/TOP Incompetent: Most of the destroyed alliances. Nice: ODN Mean: NPO Friend: C&G Enemy: N/A Respected: NpO Annoying: STA and other small alliances who make big announcements.

The general assembly has consistently voted senators into office based on their platform of strengthening ties with C&G. I'm happy to finally see months of effort come to fruition.

Good luck in the future.

Welcome to the best sphere on Bob! Come stop in the ODN forums and get a drink at Pingu's pub.

I I like this treaty and the Pokemon theme was tastefully done.

I'll stay forever. It takes 30 seconds every 10 days. For the amount of effort I've put into this nation I can spare that much time to keep it together. Plus Great Wars are too much fun to miss.

I'm a fan of all things orange. GoLeo!

I joined ODN immediately after GWIII and witnessed the fallout of that war. ODN's members seemed to want to join but we did as we were told.

Jamacus = Jay (like the bird) - Ma (your mother) -Cuss (like a sailor)

I have found another trade circle. Please remove me from Trade Circle #4

Nation Link: Jamesakistan Nation Ruler: Jamacus Resources: Oil Rubber Trade Circle Desired: # 4 I'm almost three years old so you know I won't be quitting anytime soon.

I'm excited.

I'm sorry but that sucked so hard all the Jolly Ranchers within a square mile of my house dissolved.

As a member who was ZIed for Legion in GWIII it does tug at the heart strings to see this go. However, it has been a long time since I've seen an ORRPLE love fest. I feel this is the right way for this treaty to end; laid to rest with the quiet dignity that it deserves.

Hoorah!

I never thought I'd live to see the day where ODN was stronger than NPO.

Wow, I'm sensing some real anger here. I'm rather surprised you feel this strongly. We were allies with you. We weren't best friends but we were allies. We were allies with alliances on the KARMA side. We decided we were going on the KARMA side. This was BEFORE we knew what side you would be on. (Before it looked like KARMA might win I might add) We suspended our treaty with you. We didn't cancel because we hoped something could be salvaged at the end. We didn't declare on you. We didn't threaten you. We didn't do anything to you. Perhaps you saw us threatening "NPO and meatshields"™ as us threatening you but I feel that even you realized that NPO had been an asshat lately. What other reason could you have had for your 24 hour declaration of neutrality? Besides, if anything this just proves you choose NPO yet again over us. You could have just gone neutral and sat this war out and then at the end we could have picked up where we left off. Even after you came in with NPO if this had been handled better we could have just shook hands and said, "see you on the other side" like we did with Legion. You guys acting like we stuck a knife in your back is very disingenuous. edit: gramerz

There's one major difference. You never dated us! You threw us an MDP which is the equivalent of saying "lets just be friends" and then went to shack up with NPO. Eventually, we stopped trying and moved on to try and find a date who would reciprocate our affection. The only problem is your formally hot girlfriend turned out to be a skank and now half the people in the school want her dead. Now you're just pissy because you don't have us clinging to you anymore and don't really have any other prospects.

You are quite right that forced destruction is rather harsh. I was operating on the OP's black and white responses of, forced disbandment or white peace. That said, I don't like the point of view where, "We can't give them harsh terms because then we're as bad as they are." I say let the punishment fit the crime. It is in every KARMA alliance's best interest to make sure NPO is a non-issue by the time this war is concluded. We can do this by harsh reps, we can do this by beating them down until they are significantly hindered in their growth. Either way, I really feel no charity toward them.

Who cares if we let NPO die? I feel that destroying them utterly in no way makes KARMA as bad as NPO. This is justice, which is completely different than the half dozen or so times that NPO destroyed an alliance with little to no reason.

I couldn't be happier to see an alliance achieve white peace.

Nice, give Valhalla a stern talking to.

Why did Moo-cows sign this?

Shilo pretty much summed up our feelings. IRON still has a ton of support among the membership and if there was one alliance we could have been closer allies with it would have been IRON. I don't think people realize what a big deal an MADP really is to us. Then decision time came and we had to make a choice. We realized that we would always be second rate to NPO and we decided that it would be best for us to back R&R and the other alliances in KARMA who have always treated us with much more respect.

I have to admit. I've never seen the level of coordination that you three have exhibited. Unfortunately, it looks like you're slowing down.