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Our MADP partner (IPA) has a MDoAP with GR We have optional defense with DE - which I'm sure will grow in the future. The lines are there - we just choose to ignore the e-lawyer part for this DoW because we aren't politicians; we are fighters. Any other lines would be redundent and cluster too many alliances together in the MDP-Web; potentially causing another hegemony to arise. To completely destroy the small alliance? It indeed would be a shame. However we choose this war instead of several other wars we could have easily entered into because an extra hand was needed as most of NEW's enemies are tied up elsewhere, we have no desire to destroy them; we do in fact desire quick peace. As for "how can we stop them?" question - I think the answer is here in this war (Didn't NPO DoW on MK without a treaty obligation? I don't have the time to double-check that right now)

I nearly rofl'd to this.

I admitted nothing of the sort, unless you think standing by your friends is wrong - in which case nail us to a cross, I'll even hand you the hammer to help do it. I'll be sure to remember your name as spin-master, actually just reading your posts remind me of NPO when they once posted on these forums, to think that for a moment I was going to miss the presence of such posters. I also love the use of "ZI war" when we just stated we were ready to fight to ZI if needed - something most alliances are willing to do, and publically declare. Do you have any creative ability? I would love to see what kind of propaganda artwork you could come up with.

Those pieces of papers is also what made the Hegemony - I'd rather see less lines on the MDP web then more. Like people have said for eternity; you don't need a piece of paper to do what is right or fight for friends; as for larger alliances declaring on smaller alliances without a treaty obligation - I believe history has already recorded a number of these incidents, in which case each individual needs to educate themselves on the matter before they make their own decision about it.

Yes, Dark Fist plans to benefit greatly by entering potentially nuclear warfare with no desire to request reps, you sir are making things up. Also we will not apologize for believing in the greater fight. Also to the Chap who's claiming we are out to ZI them all, I laugh. You need to get off that washer machine before the spinning gets too hard.

I presented him with 2 legal ways in, he rejected them both o/ Helping friends out Also I'm not sure why you'd call it a bandwagon - when we are in fact DoWing on NEW because they doing better then expected. 1. The overall war? Sorry to say but we already inflicted heavy damages to NATO 1-2 weeks ago. 2. You bet, if we had merged early we would have been in the noCB war too. Discussion of this war has dominated our government for months now and the side we were going to be on was set in stone the moment our AA was created.

Future wars is not such a terrible thing. In fact I'm pretty sure its one of the things the majority of Karma is fighting for; more conflicts so this game may be more then just words and internal affairs. White peace will also influence some current hegemony alliances to break free from their current ties - allowing for a more dynamic world post-war. I have no doubt that NPO will receive its justice; but I hope they are not disbanded... no one should be forced to be disbanded. Forcing/pushing players to leave the game is one of the worst crimes the Hegemony/NPO is responsible for.

I think someone in another thread said it best. NPO put harsh terms on relatively innocent alliances. If Karma puts harsh terms on NPO (who isn't innocent due to the above line and multiple other reasons) then it wouldn't make Karma as bad as the NPO. Just like a Government that executes murderers aren't as bad as murderers - as its justifiable punishment. Of course this is just talking about NPO and some of its closest allies; most of the others that are part of this just because of treaty obligation have already been given white peace. So yeah, I really can't see anything that Karma has done wrong so far (besides the poor show in initial peace talks with NPO, which again can be connected back to what I just said; its justifiable punishment)

Good to see this. Onwards to swift victory.

Are you really in Vox? It nearly could have been a fair war until half of hegemony surrender after 1week for a start; so its not a beatdown - its a victory. Defeating the status quo is not a beatdown. Then there's this: "Power Corrupts, Absolute Power Corrupts Absolutly" The Hegemony (Continuum and One Vision) had near absolute power. Karma is a coalition of loosely connected alliances with a common goal/threat. After this war is over the idea of absolute power won't exist - as it will be spread alot more evenly into several power-groups, meaning corruption and unjust actions should occur less as other alliances keep them in check.

I enjoyed reading the op; until the last paragraph where it turned from a near-objective post to pro-NPO propaganda (I'll ignore the part of valhalla claiming to always enter the war, as I really couldn't care anymore). In which case my response to the last paragraph was already done nicely here: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?s...p;#entry1492918 Don't pretend that we are lucky Karma is successful. The defeat of NPO has been tried several times; it was only a matter of time before public opinion translated into real results.

This propaganda piece would work wonders with the ignorant that make up the mass of NPO.

Totally unexpected. Good luck in rebuilding relationships over the coming months.

Overthrowing the old GOONS o.O Welcome to black; please quickly close the door b4 too much light enters in.

I must agree :/ Although I'm glad NATO was granted white peace I think it was done prematurely - They still have the capability to wage nuclear warfare even (albeit only for a few more days). But congratz on the white peace NATO; may you learn from this war both political and military lessons, and may you evolve.

Don't unban scm from your irc channel, or he will impostor you

I believe they have been ghost hunting recently.

Being respectful to enemies = check Other things in this rant = disagree

Welcome allies to the war. We have your back. o/ TSC o/ BPI o/ NOIR

Good to see this. !@#$%*^ the germans were getting.

o/ NOIR I'm glad black can get some shelter under your umbrella

Deserters not cool. But fair terms.

Good job for being honorable Nebula-X and I hope you have fun. TCB has this covered but :/

900, 800 and 600 times so far. I prob won't hit it again for the rest of the war unless something unexpected occurs.

3rd is the golden princess! But nice propaganda piece. Though I do not believe saying its 5v1 is accurately describing the situation.