Arthur Blair

[quote name='Bob Janova' date='01 July 2010 - 12:16 AM' timestamp='1277939757' post='2355903'] Flak, thanks for finding that link for me . As Archon himself says: "[i]We do indeed recognize the fact that, had TOP or IRON hit our allies, we [C&G] would be honor bound to defend them[/i]". Considering the many treaty chains between SF (where IRON 'should' have entered) and C&G (the obvious one, considering the apparently still live despite cancellation MK-Grämlins treaty and the likely target of Fark, being Fark-Grä-MK, and also SF-GOD-MK), it's obvious where C&G would have been. I'm not sure how you get from being 'honor bound' (sic ) to enter to not saying you were going to enter, but it isn't a correct conclusion . You may not have been going to enter if TOP and IRON had not entered at all, but that was never on the cards because an IRON ally was getting rolled by your friends' coalition already. Once they decided to enter to protect NSO, by Archon's own words C&G were always going to oppose them. And yes, he also says he pressured the other fronts to peace out so he could trap TOP/IRON in the one remaining front, but that's not particularly relevant to this thread as the proposed amendment deals with their entry to the war and not how they were played afterwards. [/quote] I am still baffled by your logic. Using diplomacy to attain peace is setting up TOP for destruction. Potentially honoring our defensive treaties is an aggressive move. What sort of delusional fantasy world are you living in? Seriously, if you and TOP had a pax paradoxia going the world as we know it would be in ruins. Forum posting would be valid casus belli. Having treaties would be valid casus belli. Basically anyone doing anything would mean TOP would roll them and you would cheer them on in their righteous fury.

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='28 June 2010 - 02:21 PM' timestamp='1277731298' post='2352647'] [color="#0000FF"]No. You're worse. Do you have any idea how boring you people are?[/color] [/quote] Well you always know how to make your own fun, teach the rest of CN as well please.

[quote name='Haflinger' date='27 June 2010 - 02:16 PM' timestamp='1277644560' post='2351835'] You can't read. Spot the phrase "with time on their hands." [/quote] You keep believing that all alliances are made of as much fail as the ones you are in. You seem set in this although MK is an excellent example to the opposite, as I'm sure a lot of other elite alliances are.

[quote name='Haflinger' date='24 June 2010 - 01:48 PM' timestamp='1277383665' post='2348686'] Huh? All I stated was that I got triple-teamed unnecessarily, entirely by small iFOK nations which stood absolutely no chance of doing damage to me, except for nukes and CMs. The result of that was that I had five outgoing spy slots instead of only three (as I would have if I'd had one nation on me, nuking me to keep me in anarchy), which I used mainly on DMR missions against NV and FOK. Was that worth it for the extra 4 CMs a day the other two were firing? Heck it was because of the triple-team that I got out of my zero land situation. [/quote] Strange that you're the only one that got that out of your conspiracy theory while everyone else read something else. You might want to study the english language some more.

[quote name='Buds The Man' date='22 June 2010 - 04:37 PM' timestamp='1277221014' post='2346580'] Wow still crying after this long get over it. [/quote] As long as people keep saying that it's justifiable to attack alliances over forum posts I will not stop "crying", sir. Our new hegemony is better than that !@#$, I will not stand for it. Never.

[quote name='shahenshah' date='21 June 2010 - 11:06 AM' timestamp='1277114794' post='2345042'] Nvm Alterego, unless approved by Archon, those posts mean nothing [/quote] Great way to facetiously try to justify your unjustifiable war on us, buddy. No one is buying it.

Roll UPN. Let them force 20 members out of us. This'll be hilarious.

I'd say something about Blackstone just being a bunch of clueless, failed spies... But I wont. Congratulations on your move to brown. I guess you'll be spying on NSO and GATO now since that's how you treat those you should be friendly with, eh?

[quote name='Lamuella' date='16 June 2010 - 06:04 PM' timestamp='1276707874' post='2339588'] god I hate Mushroom Kingdom. They're so incredibly evil. (feel better now?) [/quote] Finally this thread has the required component to call itself a post-TOP war thread. (yes)

[quote name='Sir Paul' date='16 June 2010 - 04:06 AM' timestamp='1276657599' post='2339000'] First everyone says I have a Londo crush. Now everyone says I have an Archon crush. Can anyone guess who will be the target of my affections next? And per your request, another sig. Feel free to add your name: [img]http://i235.photobucket.com/albums/ee215/RussianMight/Photoshop46.png[/img] [/quote] My guess is the New Pacific Order! Based entirely on that I think you might cover the ball. Also you're way too kind, I wish more people would give us free stuff. More alliances should be like the NPO.

[quote name='Bob Janova' date='14 June 2010 - 12:54 PM' timestamp='1276516472' post='2337099'] While C&G (and MHA and Fark and Umbrella and whoever else has 'paperless treaties' with these clowns) is carefully not saying that it wouldn't protect Grämlins, then you [i]are[/i] preventing any (non-suicidal) alliances from helping. And let's not kid ourselves, if NPO came in to help IRON, [i]C&G[/i] would be first on the bandwagon to roll them again. [i]You're[/i] [b]trying to goad NPO into a war[/b] and it's no prettier coming from you than it was from them. [/quote] Last I heard, MK was part of C&G. [quote name='Zombie Glaucon' date='16 June 2010 - 11:34 AM' timestamp='1276684439' post='2339337'] Really? [i]Do you have a quote for that?[/i] Or do you not know what "literally" means? Follow the chain of conversation back to Kalasin. When Janova says "You're trying to goad NPO into a war and it's no prettier coming from you than it was from them.", the "You" he's referring to is Kalasin (member of ODN), not MK. [/quote] Yes I do. After the clarification from Janova below you will note that he means C&G, which MK is a part of. I also remember vividly when he claimed entirely seriously that we made TOP attack us by using our awesome powers of goading. Or possibly mind control. [quote name='Bob Janova' date='16 June 2010 - 01:44 PM' timestamp='1276692278' post='2339391'] Quote or it didn't happen. I said that (i) [i]C&G is trying to goad NPO into a war[/i], and (ii) by carefully not stating whether or not you would enter the war to protect Grämlins if IRON's friends came in, you are preventing those alliances from doing so through the implicit threat of force, and therefore tacitly backing Grämlins' unconditional surrender policy. Since none of that is talking about people attacking or planning to attack MK, you are just trying to make things up about me ... again. Sorry to keep that line of discussion alive but I can't let a direct lie about me stand. [/quote] So you're not saying we make everyone attack us, just TOP and NPO? Thanks for the clarification.

[quote name='Bob Janova' date='15 June 2010 - 10:39 PM' timestamp='1276637956' post='2338674'] Because to 'defend' them (only MHA could actually claim that legitimately) is to support their position. Isn't that why you signed a separate peace in the first place? Nice straw man, AB. I'm used to it from you, though. [/quote] How is it a strawman? You [b]literally[/b] state that the Mushroom Kingdom is to blame for anyone who attacks or plans to attack us.

[quote name='Bob Janova' date='14 June 2010 - 12:54 PM' timestamp='1276516472' post='2337099'] While C&G (and MHA and Fark and Umbrella and whoever else has 'paperless treaties' with these clowns) is carefully not saying that it wouldn't protect Grämlins, then you [i]are[/i] preventing any (non-suicidal) alliances from helping. And let's not kid ourselves, if NPO came in to help IRON, C&G would be first on the bandwagon to roll them again. You're trying to goad NPO into a war and it's no prettier coming from you than it was from them. [/quote] Oh god Janova, what happened to you? The TOP war seems to have turned you into a conspiracy nut. The Mushroom Kingdom goads everyone into declaring war on them and then destroys them, oh what horrible creatures we are. Really? Is this something you're just saying or do you literally believe this conspiracy theory?

[quote name='Aimee Mann' date='14 June 2010 - 11:36 PM' timestamp='1276554981' post='2337622'] If I was attempting to get a rise I'd notch this down to a success on your replies alone, never mind your alliance mates who also got hooked in by my pure idiocy. Fancy such clever and superior folks such as yourselves getting all worked up over me and my most stupid ways. Anyway, as my question was kindly answered, I have no other reason for sticking around in this announcement. If you want to carry on with your pointless and childish insults, I will happily accept them in PM form (I won't hold my breath though, eh). [/quote] Congratulations on your outstanding success. And you're right, such clever and superior folk like us should know better. You're pretty good though.

[quote name='Aimee Mann' date='14 June 2010 - 06:34 PM' timestamp='1276536848' post='2337312'] I was expecting him to come and say the opposite. I certainly didn't expect my easy little question to arouse numerous sarcastic answers, deliberate misinterpretations of my words and most of all, insults. I should be more careful next time! [/quote] Yes you should. You see when you ask leading, moronic questions then people will assume that you're an unintelligent lout who's looking to get a rise out of someone in the most stupid way possible.

RV won this one, hands down. Tosh, don't stop. You're making an embarrassment out of yourself and it's highly amusing.

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[quote name='Aimee Mann' date='14 June 2010 - 04:44 PM' timestamp='1276530245' post='2337212'] Odd that you'd reply to a fairly simple and harmless question about GOD's foreign policy with such barbed and defensive sarcasm. What's that about? Thanks for responding, anyway. [/quote] He's hiding something...

I like this treaty. GOD has the same policy as I do when it comes to those who attack us. Destroy.

Hey I almost didn't read this tribune since I thought it was about the common rabble that no one cares about. Luckily I was wrong. Excellent issue and as others have said, thanks a bunch for the sigs!

This thread and this entire quarrel is so full of retarded stupid that I'm amazed any of you people manage to breathe and type at the same time.

That thread is nothing but a cowardly whinefest. If they really wanted to fight, none of those posts would be there. There'd be a DoW. It's an exercise in mental masturbation, and everyone in CN can participate by calling out either side. Pathetic.

Very annoying feature. Should have been turned off by default.

[quote name='Dochartaigh' date='06 June 2010 - 07:05 PM' timestamp='1275847539' post='2326486'] Yes we all get he started harassing ya'll, but instead of ignoring him ya'll start insulting him back. that is also harassment. this whole "we are the victims" spiel and thus, "aren't doing anything wrong" is bs and tiresome. the grown up and mature action to do would have been to ignore him (again that convenient ignore button on IRC or not posting in this thread and letting it die quickly) which may not make him go away but make ya'll actually seem more of a victim than ya'll do since you appear to relish in this and enjoy insulting him. his own mental stability may be questionable and deriding him to the point where he seems to think ya'll are tormenting him is just horrible. also the comparison to the emily/MHA situation- to my knowledge MHA did not insult emily (at least nearly as much) as ya'll do. most simply tried to defend themselves against her repeated attacks or actually did ignore her in the hopes she would go away. MK is insulting and deriding E_T every time he appears. he may be a sadist, it appears, but that does not mean that MK and others are right in their actions. [/quote] You still don't seem to get it. We have no motivation to make him stop. We would love for him to stick around and do what he does. [b]It's funny![/b] This entire thread is a barrel of laughs that just keeps giving, and now he doesn't even have to shoulder that responsibility himself. A lot of other people are keeping the entertainment flowing, hopefully this will give him enough breathing space to decide sticking around so we can continue to be amused by his antics. If his mental stability is questionable and he is truly anguished and feels tormented, then maybe it would be in his best interest to quit? I mean if he feels tormented by his constant need to query people and talk about weird !@#$ then maybe you should encourage what's going on instead of discouraging it? You seem to be concerned about his well being after all. I on the other hand am not, I only concern myself with my own entertainment. The level is currently high. I do like to stress that we're not the instigators here though. We have been handed this wonderful gift that keeps on giving. To claim that we are responsible for this is wrong.

[quote name='Jrenster' date='06 June 2010 - 06:03 PM' timestamp='1275843803' post='2326419'] I think the best way to go about this is just to ignore him. [/quote] This is generally what we've done. He comes along and !@#$% on our porch and runs away laughing while stripping off his clothes. We figure that's pretty weird, shovel the !@#$ away and then when the weekend rolls around we have a private party and tell our friends about this crazy guy who !@#$ on our porch and ran away. He learns of this. Cue the fact that we're harassing him...?