Azhrei

Thanks for hosting this one, stockhunter!

tR's entry into Athens. Mostly due to the alliance having some of the best people in CN.

This DoE clashes more than a little with my Wikia histories, but hey, congrats anyway

That second one is absolutely beautiful, Joracy.

I'm up for this. Should we post the photoraphs here as well as in the email? Edit - Well, just in case - [img]http://fc08.deviantart.net/fs70/i/2010/220/0/e/In_The_East_by_Rihani.jpg[/img] Sunrise over Cobh Harbour, the second largest natural harbour in the world, after Sydney. You can see the spire of St. Colman's Cathedral, which dominates the town's skyline, in the distance. [img]http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2010/060/d/a/Dark_Whitepoint_by_Rihani.jpg[/img] Whitepoint at night. A small village to the west of Cobh, and the view I see whenever I pop my head out the door and look right.

Splab?

In the VIP section, the Prince and Princess of Ossetia, Revia and Helene Ambrai, sit quietly and watch the proceedings, murmuring to themselves every now and then at the events being played out before them. Speaking in their native Ossetic, they respond in perfect French if addressed by a member of the congregation. Though having more faith in the security of the host country by not being surrounded by members of the [i]Jihan'Rei[/i], two of them are close by in the media section, keeping an eye on things, noting the slight unrest of the crowd and preparing to jump into action if need be. For now, they continue to observe the startling events of the day, wondering if the newly crowned Charles XI is capable of bringing about the change so needed in France, and what the ramifications will be either way. Noting KP Varma's reaction, Revia nudges his wife and shares a smile.

Fashionably late, the Prince and Princess of Ossetia will be attending.

Nice. Good show, that AUT.

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='27 March 2010 - 12:28 AM' timestamp='1269646071' post='2237853'] [color="#0000FF"]I know when you say "personalities" you mean great men. Men such as myself, or even Doitzel of Schatenmann, and not simply someone with a personality. We all have personalities, but most people are weaklings. They are not great men, so it is no wonder they fade away when they are sentenced. But men, men like I, I fight and I win. I survive and I lead the way. There is no force in this world that can do away with me. So while sheep and mice may survive in this world, it is the lions, such as I, who thrive and reach greater glory.[/color] [/quote] What's it like, to live with such massive blinders attached to the sides of your head? Because your world is so far removed from my own.

At the tail end of the twenty-fourth hour of December 31st, 2011, we will be in the year 2012. And then the cycle will repeat at the end of that year. That is all.

[quote name='welshgazza1992' date='18 March 2010 - 11:02 PM' timestamp='1268953310' post='2229632'] St Patrick was Welsh! Those Irish stole our Saint! [img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif[/img] [/quote] He converted us to Christianity - you can take him back.

[quote name='hawk_11' date='13 March 2010 - 01:56 AM' timestamp='1268445728' post='2223879'] Oh come now Londo, sure we can; we just have to eliminate your massive exaggeration first. For argument's sake, I'm going to play devil's advocate against my alliance here and say that we did have some EZI sentences on the books. However, we did not have "thousands" of EZI sentences carried out, as you would like to say.[/quote] Just to clarify, Londo did not say that NPO carried out thousands of EZI sentences, he said "It's the difference between one state which has capital punishment on the books, and another state which executes thousands of people on the slightest of pretexts". Nowhere does he say what you are accusing him of. [quote]They were also certainly not for the "slightest of pretexts." Your exaggeration is simply a way to make your "no EZI sentences" look fine in comparison to our four or five. However, having the sentence "on the books," [i]a means in which you were willing to punish someone given the opportunity[/i], is just as bad. The only difference between you and I is that I've pulled the trigger, Londo.[/quote] EZI was a policy of Athens that was never acted on, that we never thought to act on, and it was rightly removed from our charter. Hell, I'm surprised we had it at all. There is more of a difference here between, "I've pulled the trigger" on several nations and "We had an EZI policy but got rid of it. We never used it; we never thought of using it." Londo is right. In this, you cannot compare us to you.

[quote name='Letum' date='05 March 2010 - 07:10 PM' timestamp='1267816520' post='2215046'] Grub is not a member, much less leader, of TPF. He has nothing to do with them. He's in NpO. He's also the guy who's made a few notable decisions on this current war. Like starting it. [/quote] I know, I know all this... which is why I'm confused as to how I mixed him up with mhawk. But, anyway.

[quote name='Letum' date='05 March 2010 - 06:19 PM' timestamp='1267813450' post='2215010'] I think you have your evil overlords mixed up. [/quote] Ooh... how'd I do that? [quote name='Tulafaras' date='05 March 2010 - 06:22 PM' timestamp='1267813610' post='2215012'] i know Grub is the root of all evil etc. etc. etc. but i think you meant mhawk in this. Aside from that, tbh this thread has run it's course nearly 40 pages ago. I have no idea why we are discussing the TPF war here now, since it has literally nothing to do with this war. Maybe our actions were premature, maybe they were not, what they definitly were not was an attempt to "lure" IRON into a trap. Frankly if we had wanted that we wouldn't have stopped when we finally achieved our supposed goal. edit: darn Letum was faster [/quote] ...nope, I still don't know how I did that. Anyway, yeah, you're right, this thread is more than a little redundant at this point. Best to leave it be.

[quote name='Haflinger' date='05 March 2010 - 12:46 PM' timestamp='1267793480' post='2214785'] It's a whole lot better than the alternative, which is the idea that C&G actually believed the incredibly weak story that ZH was selling. If you guys are really that gullible, you're a threat to everyone - anyone can make up stories to get you to roll alliances. [/quote] I definitely think our attack on TPF was premature, that we should have asked them first about it and get it all clarified. Grub did in the end admit to his planning the infiltration and eventual destruction of Athens and Ragnarok. During war time? Yes, but we were not at war with each other. At most you could say we were on opposite sides of [i]a[/i] war. Zero Hour was formed to infiltrate and destroy Athens from the inside - it doesn't matter that Grub never officially gave the order to go ahead with the plan. Of course, then all of that spurned lover bullcrap was revealed and everyone felt stupid for a while. But when you're in the position Athens was at the time, before you know the truth of the situation, you're not going to want to give your enemies a chance to escape to peace mode. It's treading a thin line and sure, not everyone would take the same path Athens and Ragnarok did. I bet many would, however. As for intending to set up IRON and other alliances by declaring war on TPF, though? No. Just... no.

[quote name='Haflinger' date='04 March 2010 - 10:48 PM' timestamp='1267743144' post='2214124'] Do you guys really believe what Zero Hour told you? Admittedly, I'm working on the assumption here that you're intelligent enough to see the giant mountain of OOC grudge and realize that they might not be the most reliable of witnesses. [/quote] I remember all that guff about it having started due to what were basically the actions of a spurned ex, and of course I acknowledge the grudge Zero Hour held for TPF. But my post was nothing to do with Zero Hour and everything to do with your assertion that the attack on TPF was a ruse to set up IRON in the event of their defence of TPF. Do you really believe that? That in the Athens IRC channels and forums, when Zero Hour's allegations were brought to us, there was gleeful rubbing of hands at the thought of being able to draw IRON and any other old Hegemonistic (or whatever, you did say "among others") alliance into a war that would quickly turn global? With C&G heading taking the moral high ground? If you do, then you have some very odd ideas about Athens, C&G and what goes on in our forums.

[quote name='Haflinger' date='04 March 2010 - 08:43 PM' timestamp='1267735645' post='2213961']AirMe, sorry... but your argument makes no sense. The attack on TPF was a transparent attempt to set up IRON (among others), who were expected to defend TPF, and it was launched by a C&G alliance. If you want to argue that it justifies TOP's belief that C&G was coming for them and IRON, well that'd make more sense.[/quote] What the hell are you smoking, and can I have some? I mean, goddamn. There are stupid posts, and then there ones like this. Rampant paranoia and delusions abound! I know, I know, back when we learned about TPF's attempt to infiltrate and destroy Athens, our first thought was, "Oh boy, is this a good way to set up IRON or what? Hallelujah!". Wtf.

[quote name='The Big Bad' date='02 March 2010 - 01:49 AM' timestamp='1267494769' post='2210621'] Then your fooling yourselves and know nothing of Sparta's history, abandoning and then turning on its allies has been Spartas only active FA policy. [/quote] If I were a betting man, I would take the bet that Sparta will not abandon and then turn on Athens. But I'm not a betting man, and your post should only be ignored for the flame-bait it is.

Oy, this is some bad ju-ju right here. All you people who think Sparta will abandon her allies - ask any member of Athens if they believe that (hint - no).

Nice one, AUT. Nice one

Interesting, and a nice idea. But the subjectivity of it all results in instant fail. Sorry, Jack... nice try, though. Oh, and in before the !@#$%*ing.

Best of luck, guys.