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Two things. First, the reps are payable, you say? Then why are most of the NPO people on the forums that are posting are saying otherwise? Secondly.... you really believe Karma wants to go to war again with the NPO in the near future? Wow. Just... wow. It's like you all really do believe that Karma had been planning this for months, and have purposely designed the reps to be unpayable so that we have an excuse to destroy you. Well, let me tell you that despite the reasons I have to dislike and outright hate the NPO, I don't want it gone. I don't think anyone but idiots want it gone. Karma is not this big evil entity that aims to control Planet Bob as you guys once did. It's a very loose gathering of alliances that banded together to show the NPO that we will not stand for the tyranny of one large alliance. Pay the reps so this war can finally end, and we can all move on.

Don't hold your breath for a change in the OWF any time soon. And don't get worked up about it, it's not worth the blood pressure.

To Bartley - That's nice. Welcome to everyone else's experience during their early CN days. Schattenmann and Sal Paradise - Classy as always guys, keep it up

Congratulations on the release from terms GGA, and best of luck in the future.

No one has said you have.

You know Zog, you've shown remarkable restraint in this topic and in all the others regarding the NPO and the war, considering what they did to you and NoV. I salute you for that. So many people could learn from you.

The terms, while certainly high, are acceptable to my eyes. It has been said before, but I'll say it again - proportionally, NPO has forced tougher terms on alliances before now. But no matter what you may say about Karma as a whole or that we are hypocritical and becoming the thing we are fighting, at least we can say that we do not wish the destruction of the NPO. We all know how the NPO has operated in the past in that regard, don't we?

Congratulations guys, and best of luck in the future.

Six. Vernatic Zeal Consortium Nordreich The Fianna Norden Verein the Revolution Athens

Say that to a veteran WWI French soldier that charged the German machine-gun nests at Verdun, clever clogs.

Being passionate about something does not mean one needs to "get a life".

I think I remember you, your name is definitely familiar. And the VZC! Ah, my first alliance. It never really died, there was no official "we're all Nordreich now", it just kinda happened. There was some talk between Kaiser Indie and myself about bringing it back but nothing came of it. Good times

o/ /A\/A\

Declaring on an applicant - classy stuff, guys.

This is likely the true CB for NoV's destruction... in my opinion at least (other than, you know, boredom and an easy target). Nordreich (and to a somewhat lesser extent, NoV) was truly frightening to watch when fighting a war, anyone who had fought as a member could attest to that. It was as you said, every nation gave until it could give no more, we hit our targets as hard as we were getting hit ourselves. Imagine if the alliance grew to something the size of NPO and still fought like that... I remember when I first joined up and being amazed at the efficiency of the NoR war machine, and being terrified about being a member of an alliance on the receiving end. I was scared of not being a member! NoR was made up of good people, though. Martens, Striderwannabe and so many others. It's just a shame that neo-Nazi elements did make their way in, at the end. I remember just before leaving the many arguments that were beginning to fracture the alliance from the inside.

\o/ Sparta \o/

I left NoR just before it's end, then came back for a while in NoV. Good times were had - the Maroon War, Great War II and all the rest. NoR was frightening to watch in full-scale war mode!