Degenerate108

This saddens me i still love you valhalla may your next war be bloody and may i get to have one pity target along side you?

Indeed it would have nothing to do with wishing to remain green and having a completely neutral alliance protect us while we grew. For the record we're for green stability as much any anyone else and are looking forward to working with our green counterparts.

Not really sure could be the lack of showering on my part.

Not my alliance, just trying to clear things up from an outsider's point of view at this point. You are right though nothing is going to make things go away but time. Hopefully they tread carefully.

nice to see you actually read it, go on continue with the fifteen year old "ZOMG UR GRAMMAR IZ BADZ0RS!?" rhetoric i can wait.

In part to the revolving door: Not entirely true or accurate, I'm on the outside on my own volition, and under good terms no less. This after almost 2 and a 1/2 years of service to the GGA. We did let members return to a degree in that we were weren't going to stop someone from coming back if they left in good standing and wished to rejoin the alliance a lot of the time at a reduced rank than when they left, however there was even a point where that was discontinued as well (we're talking repeat offenders). On useless wars: I won't make any attempt to hide that fact. The GGA did take part in several wars that could be deemed pointless. But again you have to remember than even I wasn't a Triumvir during the hyperion war. That normally wouldn't mean anything but in this instance i was the most senior member of the Triumvirate up until my resignation. So again we're back to pointing fingers and accusing a govt. that really had no involvement in past indiscretions. Did we apologize for them? No we did not. Did we feel responsible for actions that took place when most of the current upper govt. didn't even exist? No we certainly did not. I can understand looking at the GGA with some skepticism but it was mostly displaced and definitely held our reasoning for continuing down the path we were already being pushed down. What was an alliance to do when being challeneged the way the GGA has been over the last two plus years? Dumping our only allies would be suicide and keeping them was a PR nightmare. Thus the GGA is at where it's at. On Ridiculous PR: For reasons i won't go into here as i don't wish to point fingers after the fact i will only this, the source of bad PR can still be found within the GGA. However they seem to have a handle on that to which i say kudos to them. In a govt. system such as what they have, convoluted messages are the norm as nine times out of ten we as govt. members had no idea what the others were doing. None of the instances you bring up, i can take sole credit for, however no one within the ranks of the GGA could be deemed "the incompetent one" as we were all being fed different lines from people who "should" have had a handle on what they were talking about in the first place. If they truly have a handle on that and i suspect they do, than dirty laundry being aired in public would be a thing of the past for the GGA.

Also this is flaud, in the context of this game none of this current govt. could even tell you what the Viridiacide was about. Actually i don't think any of the past govt. over the last year and some would even have much recollection of that war. I was literally a 4 month old nation at the time. All the beef you have with the GGA should be directed at members who have either quit the game entirely or moved on to new alliances a long time ago.

In the interest of playing fair it was indeed a coup and an illegal one at that. Procedurally it was an utter failure an a PR nightmare both internally and externally. It was also a major kick in the balls that i hope you guys learn from. However yes you do speak the truth we were in the midst of change way before the karma war, we just happened to have all the bad aired on the OWF with none of the good. Such is life i guess.

Well now that's not very neutral is it

/me goes to round up some /b/tards

Ah yes good point and i missed that as well. I also respect the NPO don't get me wrong. But don't use the "poor NPO" card on the GGA. We got our teeth kicked down our throat and it would seem the new govt. is attempting to right some of the past wrongs. I don't see the harm in that. Also yay for further stabilization of the Green Sphere.

Not that it matter's much since I'm no longer affiliated with the GGA, but we were one of the last alliances out, we surrendered to 14(ish) alliances and we managed to run through our entire bank. not to mention the number of nukes/anarchies/surrendered nations we received in the name of defending the NPO. Your "weak child" analogy kinda makes me happy the GGA did in fact sever ties with the NPO if that's how you view the contributions of your allies, and it only solidifies the rationale that (i assume) went into ending any working relationship with the NPO. (Since we're trading barbs.... who's entire alliance took their whooping's like a big boy out of peace mode including the banks? oh that's right not the NPO). Further a split from the NPO was inevitable as both sides had grown tired of the other's shenanigans, I'm not sure where you got your information from but the break was more than mutual on both sides of that fence. There's way more to that whole story than meets the eye. But alas that's another story for another time.

i toad a so, i toterly toad a so. (bonus points if you get the reference. I'm looking in your direction Crushtania)

New Triumvirate This announcement is never easy, but in the interest of having a new and open govt. I will make the following announcement. Scotchwithrocks, and Kungfuhamster, have been relieved of their duties as Triumvirate of the GGA. This decision was made after taking into consideration the actions of these two triumvirs over the last little while. I will not delve into what lead up to these decisions as i don't personally think its fair to lamb baste them in public. Both of them have been offered the position of Elder Statesmen and the offer will not be rescinded until they have made their decisions. Should they decide they wish to leave, we wish them well and hold no ill feelings towards them. Now onto happy times, with the opening of Two triumvirate positions i would like to welcome firstly Descepter as the newest Triumvirate, She will no doubt do great things as Triumvirate as she has already proven herself capable in the other positions she's held. Secondly as strange as this sounds i welcome back into the fold one Mr. Shaneprice. Shane has gone above and beyond to right the wrongs and has held a very pro GGA mindset in the process. I feel this is a long time overdue, welcome back shane. With these moves in mind, we hope to continue moving forward, away from the past that's led us to this present position. Progressively making head way. The Alliance has never had a brighter future in my mind, and i can assure you there will be more announcements in the coming days. With that in mind, please feel free to continue to pm me, or either of the two new triumvirs with your questions and concerns, we can also be found on irc throughout the day and night. Furthermore our embassy row is now open, please feel free to send over an ambassador to our new forums located here Signed on behalf of the GGA: Degenerate108, Holy Triumvirate and Chief Protector of the Realm DeScepter, Holy Triumvirate and Chief Protector of the Realm Shaneprice, Holy Triumvirate and Chief Protector of the Realm

The GGA is still has a treaty with the NPO as well. Two actually we rescinded our original cancellation to them i believe as well as through OV.