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[quote name='Banned' date='31 January 2010 - 03:56 PM' timestamp='1264971413' post='2148228'] Personally, I hope that the Superfriends make Echelon eat their arrogance. Let it be known to anybody who ever has Echelon's arm twisted in the future. Don't even offer Echelon surrender terms. Keep them down until they are disbanded. Their signatures on surrender terms mean nothing. So what is being done to the government members of Echelon that signed a document that allowed foreign entities to infringe upon the sovereignty of Echelon in what is clearly being determined now many months later as a violation of your charter? [/quote] So the other how many terms they completed mean nothing? Good to know... [quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='31 January 2010 - 04:30 PM' timestamp='1264973419' post='2148326'] [color="#0000FF"]What's this I'm seeing? An ODN member talking tough and advocating the forciful disbanding of Echelon over this? What happened to you guys? Do you not remember the time when you were even afraid act because you might have had a boot stepping on your face for the rest of eternity? But who am I kidding? You are allied with CnG, who is in power now along with SF? Forget the fact that all of you had at one time been given the short end of the stick. You have power and can do anything with it and face no consequences. Who cares if that is what Karma was supposedly fought over?[/color] [/quote] [quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='31 January 2010 - 04:33 PM' timestamp='1264973586' post='2148334'] [color="#0000FF"]You know, collectively you ex-Karma fellows are reminding me of the old NPO more and more everyday. I guess you know what that means.[/color] [/quote] My thoughts too RV, my thoughts too. [quote name='Van Hoo III' date='31 January 2010 - 04:35 PM' timestamp='1264973728' post='2148342'] I keep seeing that said, but it doesn't make any sense. Echelon was willing to continue fighting over tech reps, but not over this issue. Not once did they object nor did they care about that term at the time. They suddenly care enough now to "make a stand"? No, this is pathetic no matter how you try and spin it. Step out of your anti-SF suit and actually look at the issue. Note: That last line was not meant for you directly, kulomascovia. I have no idea if you are anti-SF or not. [/quote] I think Tela disagrees with you. [quote name='Schattenmann' date='31 January 2010 - 04:37 PM' timestamp='1264973822' post='2148347'] Thanks for Some-other-planet Contracts 101, unfortunately, we reside on Planet Bob. Echelon accepted X in exhange for Y, knowing the full implications. Lots of alliances have gone permawar over things they feel strongly about. For example, TPF stewed in crap rather than sign terms they didn't like, and again in the Athens-TPF war they continued fighting rather than admit wrongdoing. What's bold about it? Would it be bold for NPO to jump terms tomorrow? No. Because what's anyone going to do about it right now? Nothing. It's a cowardly, petulent, prissy act. All. Surrender. Terms. Are. A. Violation. Of. Sovereignty. I know Echelon only ever fought one real war and wasn't used to talking around a bootheel on their chin (which is different than talking between big bro's legs), but this is elementary stuff, really. You exchanged some sovereignty for peace. When you decide to sweep that agreement aside, you forego the exchanged item--peace. [/quote] So I should assume CoJ will be declaring war on Echelon shortly?

Good luck AUT, your allies in the NADC salute you.

Honorable. You picked a good alliance MK.

Nice to see small alliances backing up their friends.

As long as we have that settled then Here is a great idea Joracy. Its called not clicking the "post" button. Really, it does work wonders. Oh Joracy, I always thought better of you than this. Ah well...

Why thank you Frank, if only the rest of your alliance felt the same iClean

And what exactly qualifies a post as "intelligent" in your eyes oh Master of Purple?

Um, I think you typed something wrong. Thanks Arsenal Wait, so your saying Umbrella needs help defending itself against nothing? I don't know, seems like that would be a bad thing or somethin...

I really did laugh at the one. Congrats

Please and thank you

Onwards to WAR! o/NADC o/TFD o/NATO o/Allies I think you'll be disappointed.

Congrats to our allies in UBD on this treaty upgrade.

So, o/1TF and such? Mayzie

The NADC just keeps climbing. Onward to pass RnR!

Nice read to a certain extent Stumpy. Keep it up!

I'm sorry Schattenmann, but your claim just doesn't hold up.

This. But besides that, why don't you go and get Polar's allies to cancel? I'm sure they'll agree with you... EDIT:Format

Very, very well said. I was going to respond, but I think this point has already been covered.

I support the NpO in their actions. o/Polaris

This was a great read, keep it up guys

Congrats and Good luck. Running a small alliance during these days is particularly difficult.

Good luck to FOK and TOP, breakups between friends always suck.

Lots of Corp announcements recently...

Penlugue, another response? How much time have I taken away from you now Darn, I was hoping for a bit more substance. Ah well...

It was an upgrade