Megamind

You should use nodes to connect lines going to the same place, it'll make it so much easier to read...

Yay more people to fight!

Not for me :( I'm on whatever the newest update of Chrome is.

As far as I can tell you're missing DT on Alchemy and TSO as per this announcement.

Might just be me, but it looks like two NADC nations hit GOONS first, so uhm, NADC DoW on GOONS? And before you say they are just mistakes, take a look at who it is declaring...

[quote name='Aeternos Astramora' timestamp='1358894469' post='3084021'] Staying tied to both sides doesn't work out well or for very long. Then you're in NG's position. It was also more than just me that made the decision. Most of PF minus TOP were leaning that way, while TOP wanted to go the other way.[/quote] The you I'm referring to is Argent, not you personally Also staying tied to both "sides" only becomes a problem when a war happens and that didn't become a certainty until certain elements left the middle and decided to join one side or the other... TOP didn't want to go one way or the other, we wanted a balanced stance, which we made clear on multiple occasions. But lets not get back into that, that's done and over and no amount of discussion is gonna change the outcome [quote]I remember that at least some TOP wanting to just drop and abandon DR and cling only to the DH side.[/quote] Some might have made statements saying something to that effect, but anyone with any knowledge of the internal views of TOP knows that we were never even close to discussing abandoning IRON. [quote]Also, I might not have convinced you of the Blue/XX/SF utility, but I think this war certainly goes a long way to proving it.[/quote] Proving what? Proving that they have a lot of bodies? We knew that. I'm sorry, but having a bunch of nations isn't enough to sign a treaty with an alliance in my book. [quote]I speficically remember it being brought up somewhere, either the general member or outer gov sections of the forums. [/quote] Might have been brought up by someone, but, as said, it was never even close to being a real possibility. Anyways, as said, this is all over and done, so continuing to discuss it isn't going to change anything...

[quote name='The Warrior' timestamp='1358881385' post='3083855'] I cannot speak for how things occured between PF and TOP, but I do know about the TOP/IRON relationship. You may have been happy staying tied to both sides MM, but as time went on it started to become clear that you had chosen one of your allies and had put their interests above your other allies'. That's sort of what I'm reading into the PF debate as well. Could be wrong, but that's how it seems. [/quote] If you recall the Q&A we had just before you cancelled we told you repeatedly that we didn't want a war between DH and DR and that we would make sure that no one on our side attacked anyone on your side. So the way I see it, you were the ones that took a "you're either with us or against us" stance. Anyways I don't really see any reason to have this conversation again since it's already been had numerous times since you decided to cancel. [quote name='Brehon' timestamp='1358881905' post='3083859'] You should just admit you were running around telling people how you would not be allied or connected with NPO at all. Even after you (TOP) sure as hell talked a different game during Dave. Stop acting like you don't have exactly happening here that you wanted. [/quote] Who has said anything about not wanting to be connected to NPO? Until the incident were you decided to call myself and Crymson out in public the general feeling towards NPO in TOP were that we were neutral on you with a few people (myself among them) being positive towards you. I don't really see how you can say that we didn't want to be connected to you when we were tied to your through IRON, had several connection to TIO via PF and would have pursued ties with NG if it weren't for objections from the rest of NG. How does that fit with us not wanting to be connected to you? As for us not wanting to be allied with you, well I don't really think you want to be allied to us either, so I don't really see the point of you saying that...

[quote name='Aeternos Astramora' timestamp='1358872614' post='3083744'] Pretty much this. TOP wanted to go wholly to the MK side of the web, while the rest of us wanted to stay where we were and gather more allies on our (then-current) side. TOP thought they had the winning strategy, and we thought we had the winning strategy.[/quote] No, that is nowhere near the truth. We were happy staying tied to both sides, it was you that made the decision that you wanted to be completely on the DR/NPO side and not have any strong ties to the other side. [quote]No, you guys seemed to think that this was going to be the winning strategy. You wanted to set up a new mega power that could not be challenged by joining forces with DH and C&G. I remember this because I was very specifically trying to get everybody to see the value in the alliances currently on my side, such as Blue, XX, and SF. [/quote] Again inaccurate. We made it very clear that we wanted to stay in the middle. Our objection to getting ties to Blue, XX and SF had nothing to do with wanting to remain on the DH/CnG side and everything to do with you not being able to convince us that any of the alliances in those 3 groups were worth getting tied to. [quote name='D34th' timestamp='1358875764' post='3083785'] [img]http://images.sodahead.com/polls/002793701/5511360215_410995797_HA_HA_HA_OH_WOW_answer_1_xlarge_answer_1_xlarge.jpeg[/img] Good joke! But, no. [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=54723"]http://forums.cybern...showtopic=54723[/url] [/quote] Oh my god! Something happened 3 years ago! [quote name='Aeternos Astramora' timestamp='1358875992' post='3083790'] Yeah, and you considered MK more important than all of PF and IRON. Additionally, some (not all) wanted to leave IRON regardless. [/quote] I can say for a fact that there was absolutely no support for cancelling on IRON in TOP. Had it been up to us then we would have kept the tie regardless of us being on opposite sides in this war and then work on getting on the same page again after the war.

Thus far I like: The MKarma war The Doomedhouse war Karma 2: Return of NPO Eq vs. Iq

[quote name='Timberland' timestamp='1358780334' post='3082255'] Hey TOP how about a no nuke war ? /me evil laughs [/quote] Can't we make it an all nuke war instead?

Give 'em hell, ODN. Give 'em hell. o/ ODN

Yay war

[quote name='Icewolf' timestamp='1358688724' post='3080949'] I don't see any of them either EDIT: TO clarify, that is nukes aimed at Puppets by Umbrella. [/quote] Where exactly are you looking for them? Because if you're looking at the [url="http://www.cybernations.net/stats_news.asp?Page=1&Order=DESC&Field=Attack_Date&Search=Kronos&SearchBy=Nation_Alliance&View=S#nukes"]Nuclear Reports page for Kronos[/url] then it doesn't take more than a few seconds to locate a nuke from Umbrella hitting Puppets... And as far as I can tell the nuke was thrown by the tech heaviest of the nations fighting Puppets. That doesn't exactly sound like they're trying to minimize the damage he is taking...

The Equilibrium War? That's the silliest name I've ever heard! This is the MKarma or the Doomedhouse war!

[quote name='Dilber' timestamp='1358561556' post='3079345'] Great War 2 was 6 days. Airme is still here :< [/quote] Lol I meant great wars as in large wars, not as in [i]the[/i] great wars [quote name='AntyCrist' timestamp='1358562103' post='3079372'] I know Top has a CnG stile hold in them. Not even Umbrella does thoue. So after evryone has left you on the battle field what will you do treaty wise? After you do the last mohth of CnG? [/quote] Sorry bro, but I honestly have no idea what you're saying here...

[quote name='AntyCrist' timestamp='1358558875' post='3079223'] No you'll be the last alince on the battle fild for Umbrella. The question will be what will you do then? [/quote] How adorable. I believe we will use our multi-billion warchests to make some poor nations bleed since we won't have any trouble finding targets in this war, unlike the one all you IRON people keep referring to...

[quote name='Tom Riddle' timestamp='1358558547' post='3079202'] Why doens't Umbrella surrender right now? [/quote] Because this is merely the opening shot in the war. I would suggest you go to the CN wiki and look at the entries for some of the past great wars to get a better idea about how great wars work in this game.

[quote name='thekirbyfake' timestamp='1358554116' post='3078891'] But, but, they have so much tech. How can you ever defeat them? [/quote] Simple answer, you can't. And by you I mean the alliances that hit them, not anyone... BTW can someone explain how the supposed CB in any way has anything to do with NATO and TIO? Oh well, I guess you guys aren't claiming this is a defensive action so it doesn't really matter...

[quote name='Steve Buscemi' timestamp='1357607465' post='3072626'] What performance? [/quote] Hey now! I got ZI'd in that war!

[quote name='Boogeyman657' timestamp='1357329718' post='3071311'] So TPF is a threat now? [/quote] Nah, just the loudest.

BAI! Good luck out there

[quote name='sourcy' timestamp='1357202351' post='3070889'] Hey fake sparta, how does it feel I am doing several times the damage you 6 nations combined are doing in terms of money lost, infra lost, tech lost, and rebuilding costs? [/quote] Of course you're doing several times the damage that they are. They can only nuke you once a day, while you can nuke each of them once a day. That's just war 101. A better question, to ask you, would be: How does it feel to know that the nations you are fighting are small enough that any damage you do can be easily repaired?

[quote][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Most Powerful Bloc: Duckroll[/font][/color][/quote] I must protest! The DuckRoll document clearly states "This is not a bloc"! Aaaaanyways (only nominating by who I feel is missing in the list in the op): [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Alliance of the Year: [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Most Powerful Alliance: ODN[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Military: [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Rookie Alliance: BFF[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Most Powerful Bloc: PB (they existed in 2012)[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Flag: [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Most Active Alliance: [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Most Honorable Alliance: [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Diplomatic Team: [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Economic System: [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Recruiting Staff: NADC[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Propagandist: [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Scariest Alliance: NG[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Alliance Growth: NPL[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best War Flag:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Forums:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Alliance Most Likely to Succeed in 2013: GPA[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Most Immoral Alliance:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Most Controversial Alliance:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Player of the Year: [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Most Powerful Play[/font][/color]er: OsRavan [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Alliance Leader: [/font][/color]Bodvar Jarl [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Most Controversial Player:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Player Sig:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Player Avatar:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Poster:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Nicest Player:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Funniest Player:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Most Active Player:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Player Most Likely to Achieve Greatness in 2013:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best New Addition to the Community:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Most Hated Poster:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Declaration of War (Alliance Topic): [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Declaration of War (in-game war screen):[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Wall of Text:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best OWF Topic:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Biggest Controversy:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Funniest Event:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Most Entertaining IRC Channel:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Treaty Announcement:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Worst Diplomatic Move:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Player Quote:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best IRC Log:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Largest E-Peen:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best Villain:[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Most Missed Player (Player that has gone inactive/quit):[/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Best WaterCooler Thread:[/font][/color]

[quote name='sourcy' timestamp='1357167017' post='3070595'] Please, there is no proof of this, it is unconfirmed for now. Don't post such unconfirmed statements about the OP until they've been confirmed. [/quote] I would say your actions are all the proof needed...

[quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1357146740' post='3070459'] Since MK is confident they can take TPF. You all should just declare on them [/quote] But what are the chances of it staying one-on-one if they did that?