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They kind of walked right into it.

When they demand it amirite?

Another excellent read Schatt my friend. Well done. Come out and play Pacifica, your people are dying.

The Phoenix never hungered. It just cawed loudly to make us think it did. Damn annorexic bird.

Fair enough. That would put us at an impasse.

I'll take Mogar's booty.

Ouch, on the Nietzsche. Though ya missed the mark by a few years. The moment we give in to their tactics we become the monster. And I keep forgetting to say that most of what you say only really applies if we want to destroy NPO. In fact many of us don't. We want them humbled, beaten down, but not gone. The game would be a lesser place without NPO, even if only to because I won't be spending my time wondering what crazy trick they'll pull to take the top and obliterate us all.

Oh of course it would be a terrible tactical move. But it would be somewhat hilarious to see the alliances dubbed LUE 2.0 and NAAC 2.0 invading NPO's sphere (not to mention that CnG banner that has us as League 2.0). Obviously as a serious notion it's a bad idea, especially during the war.

No matter what I think of BAPS' choice of allies these days, I respect them greatly. TDSM8 and I walked into hell for those guys and we did it with a smile on our face because we knew that in an instant they'd have done the same. We fought side by side and took a beating (some of us in TDSM8 lost more than others :lol: thanks mhawk and Slayer ). When it came time for us to surrender and we had to leave them fighting on the battlefield it was with a heavy heart but they bore us no ill will for they understood our actions. They were truly good friends and I miss the ties that faded with time. You are good cats. o7

Of course they wouldn't. That's why we're where we are now. And if we stoop to their level of "mercy" then we become what we have just sought to end. And then we have done nothing but sate our dark pleasures with no true achievement of purpose. "Whoever battles monsters should take care not to become a monster too, for if you stare long enough into the Abyss, the Abyss stares also into you."- Friedrich Nietzsche That must be remembered by all of us in this current war lest we become the monsters we so hate.

Karma the movement stands for them getting theirs by casting them down for the things they've done. We don't have to use their methods to achieve that goal.

I will not resort to their level to punish them for their crimes. If you resort to genocide to punish a country for the act of genocide you are no better than them. I refuse to sink to their level. I have openly stated to my leaders that if they endorse the use of perma-ZI or forced re-rolls after this game I will walk. That is simply all there is to it. I have been perma-ZI'd, I will not do it to somebody else.

And they had direct and on paper ties. We have nothing bringing us together aside from a few scraps of paper tenuously connecting certain groups. I expect a lot of those will disappear as we find no more overarching group and the game polarizes. You mistake Karma for an alliance. We are a movement. A movement of change. Once the change is wrought, movement's break up, they scatter. The different proponents of the movement want to do different things with what they've gained. Some will want to just have fun, some to sit in their corner and play their own games, some to dominate. And some to gain revenge. And so we'll scatter.

Karma is a rough coalition of groups. We're not a bloc, we're not even all really allies of friendship. Many of us are allies of convienence and after this war we will go back to not caring or even disliking each other (actually some will likely gain new anger for their "allies" from having to deal with their idiocy in such close quarters). PZI was indeed dropped by MOST of the Hegemony. However a few (NPO and TPF I believe are the notable ones) merely change the policy to "Eh, we'll do it if we think we should." Hardly a step up, merely a show of admitting they can't really toss it around anymore. I'm pretty sure if they had come out on top there would be perma-ZI's left and right. There is no set group of beliefs here. We just think NPO's obsession with power and the method's they've taken to enforce it have to be stopped. They need to be humbled and brought back down to our level. After that...I honestly hope the power forces break up. I would love to see the power blocs break up and the former Hegemony a bit scattered or too weakened to simply rise up and crush those who formerly beat them back down. And truth be told I expect that to happen. I cannot even imagine Karma doing anything besides shatter after the war ends. Though if NPO and co pulled off a major recovery and came back to crush us I expect we might come back together in mutual self interest (horribly unlikely I know!). EDIT: Typing at 3 AM with almost no sleep doesn't do well for spelling and grammar.

I've been supporting a mass Complaints and Grievences move to Red Sphere since the war began. So far no luck.

Shhhh...just go along with it. You're launching a raid on Mogar and taking his booty. Much more entertaining than watching him try to understand the joke.

Good luck man, enjoy your final fight. You did a lot for me and mine during our time of need and for that I'll always have a special spot in my heart for you.

We can start racing! I think your's have the record right now by I got some pilots who have big plans on how to hit it at truly incredible speeds!

To my newest opponent Vladimir: I shall enjoy sending wave after wave of my men to their deaths against you. In fact the first wave's screams are like music to my ears. I hope you enjoy the slaughter too my good man. Here's to glowing green and bleeding red.

Was there a point to making yourself look like the dumbest mother $%&@er posting on these forums?

You'd think that after the last two he'd figure out it's a bad idea.

The Tyga Hungers? Good luck my old friends.

I laughed. A white peace does not mean a draw. It merely means they don't demand you to give up control of parts of your alliance. A draw would imply that both were fought to a standstill which I know is not true.

Thank you for clarifying. Personally don't see why they would agree to that kind of term but I am not them so I will let it go.

A question: Does agreement mean that Sparta cannot continue to persecute it's war against NPO? Or is that purpose of the Section 8? These were not very well written, it's hard to figure out exactly what they mean.