Sovyet Gelibolu

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1340684072' post='2996596'] I'll make you easy question: What happened first? ( ) NoR attack on LSF ( ) GATO/TLR attack on R&R ( ) IRON attack on LSF ( ) CRAP attack on ODN Hint: they are in chronological order. So following the logic in your reply, The International will ignore their MDoAP level treaties even if they are activated first if there is even a slightly possible of you need to honor a MADP? Therefore all alliances who have a treaty with The International and aren't in CnG have worthless piece of papers. [/quote] LSF wants to burn for some unknown reason, and doesn't want us to join them on their pyre. They're anarchists. Their minds don't work the way yours and mine do. Also, you've got the aggressor labeled wrong on the NoR-LSF front. R&R, for some odd reason, doesn't really think we ought to be at war with our blocmates. They're considerate like that. CRAP is a nonentity that we've no business being at war with. But I'm on a new nation, and a new nation needs casualties. So what the hey.

[quote name='Chuck Normis' timestamp='1340682866' post='2996532'] But LSF asked for help first... [/quote] I love it when OWF haters spew not just spin, but the exact opposite of the truth. Forward the International!

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1339185110' post='2979529'] Awww, sad to hear, NoR is back, we need you to disband them again. [/quote] Just like old times

[quote name='Emperor Marx' timestamp='1339167386' post='2979384'] We shall overcome. [/quote] This is the real reason we signed with Umbrella. INT is now GOONS' vanguard party.

[quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1339114686' post='2979078'] Wow, I didn't know this treaty was coming. Congrats to both of you though. Umbrella and INT are both great people. [/quote] Huh. That's two treaties in a row we've signed that weren't seen coming miles away. Does that mean we're doing something right?

[quote name='Sabcat' timestamp='1338808133' post='2976854'] Trotsky's had the top job for like days now. How is it that you haven't all died in a fire? [/quote] He's liquidating dissidents first before he moves on to the general population.

[quote name='Duke Nukem' timestamp='1338772399' post='2976726'] The commies elected Trotsky? This shall be fun. [/quote] Best of a bad lot, really. But don't worry, we're coup'ing him soon.

[quote name='Tibus Heth' timestamp='1337357155' post='2969127'] I think it's hilarious that your members use the Hammer and Sickle, which to many represents just the same sort of racial, religious and political oppression displayed by the Nazis. Have we forgotten that most conservative estimates place the number of civilians killed by Stalin at 19 million or so? Or have you forgotten the pogroms that lead to 9 million of those deaths being jews. The International is guilty simply for displaying such imagery, and I for one am upset and disturbed. No, really. [/quote] There are many symbols associated with our alliance, including a globe, a gear, a raised fist, sheaves of wheat, three stars, and the colors red, yellow, and sometimes black. But strangely, no hammer and sickle on our forum banner or on our flag, the major showcase spots for the symbols of an alliance as a whole. It seems you have us confused with the ICP, which no longer exists. Heck, MK uses the hammer and sickle more often than we do, and you hold a treaty with them. NoR, meanwhile, displays the Odal rune on both its forum banner and its flag. The two cases, [i]even if[/i] your point was at all valid, are not comparable.

Hmm, allies treatying allies of allies. Not quite as neat as allies treatying allies, but I'll take it.

[quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1337186247' post='2968122'] That was my reaction as well. Though for the record, I'm always down for shooting a Commie for mommy. [/quote] you too.

What's the matter with its position? TIO's the twentieth alliance by NS (the metric Kochers uses to order the list), and it's the twentieth alliance on my list of treaties. It hasn't disbanded that I'm aware of.

Thanks. If you couldn't tell by the position, it was a misprint.

...I made it a couple days ago. AFAIK the only thing that should be different is NG's position. You may have been misled by the convention I used, whereby the stronger of the two alliances in a treaty is listed second in the treaty description. Therefore the treaty between VE and Umbrella, for instance, is listed "VE,Umb" rather than "Umb,VE". The alliances' treaties are grouped in the order GPA, WTF, Umb, IRON, ODN, NG, etc.

Well, here's the treaties of the top thirty alliances to help you get started: [quote]# Section II: Bilateral Treaties # GPA: Neutral # WTF: Neutral ODN-Umbrella MDoAP MDoAP 1 ODN,Umb 94897 The Internet Dating Accords MDoAP 1 VE,Umb 84587 Batman's Treaty MDoAP 1 Deinos,Umb 106585 Underneath the Silver Parasol MDoAP 1 Argent,Umb 53108 BN-Umbrella MDoAP MDoAP 1 BN,Umb 108890 The Pact Made on the Internet MDoAP 1 GOONS,Umb 58706 AO-Umbrella MDoAP MDoAP 1 AO,Umb 20424 The Rusty Umbrella Pact ODP 1 Umb,IRON 104199 An Umbrellievably MHAwesome Concordat ODP 1 Umb,MHA 93225 The Forge Accords MDoAP 1 NG,IRON 104086 The Revelation Accords MDoAP 1 NPO,IRON 110739 Hearts of Iron II MDoAP 1 TOP,IRON 70806 No Wedge Between Us MDoAP 1 Valhalla,IRON 24241 26 and 47 Accords MDoAP 1 Argent,IRON 103167 The Temple of IRON MDoAP 1 GLOF,IRON 101296 The Tribe Enters the IRON Age MDoAP 1 OMFG,IRON 106844 Woah! We Won't Want to Wage War Writ ODP MHA,IRON 98676 Los Accuerdos de Gatos de Naranja MDoAP 1 GATO,ODN 84171 The OsRavan Can Finally Leave His House Accords MDoAP 1 MK,ODN 94045 The Orange Army Pact MDoAP 1 Int,ODN 67202 The Treaty of Scary Orange Caek ODoAP 1 FEAR,ODN 107410 A Haiku for Pingu ODoAP 1 Europa,ODN 107952 MK-NG MDoAP MDoAP 1 MK,NG 106578 Merger Madness 2.0 MDoAP 1 TLR,NG 104088 Treaty of Redundancy Treaty MDoAP 1 GOONS,NG 109302 A Treaty You Can't Refuse ODoAP 1 NPO,NG 110737 The Carnivore Accords ODoAP 1 NoR,NG 104364 The Big Trouble in Little China Accords MDoAP 1 TLR,NPO 109502 Rise of the New Imperial Order Accords MDoAP 1 TIO,NPO 102987 The Red-Fire Pact MDoAP 1 TPF,NPO 86174 The Scrabble Accords MDoAP 1 Olympus,NPO 86244 The Northwest Passage MDP 1 NATO,NPO 86175 The New Pacific Ocean Accords ODoAP Oceania,NPO 108962 Of Men and Mountains ODoAP 1 GATO,NPO 110490 The Pan Galactic Souvlaki Accords MDoAP 1 MHA,Sparta 45614 Treaty of Strength and Honor MDoaP 1 Fark,Sparta 100992 The Spartay Continues MDoAP 1 TTK,Sparta 109183 Madness?? THIS...IS...INSANITY!!! MDoAP 1 RIA,Sparta 40347 The Blacker than the Blackest Black Times Infinity Accords MDoAP 1 AGW,Sparta 109067 The New Frat on the Block MDoAP 1 AO,Sparta 38166 Letter of Amity ToA 1 RotR,Sparta 106911 MHA-Fark MDoAP MDoAP 1 Fark,MHA 56505 GO-MHA MDoAP MDoAP 1 Guru,MHA 62692 The Mostly Harmless R&R Accords MDP 1 R&R,MHA 91754 Hitchikers in Camelot? MDP 1 KoN,MHA 106177 The Mostly Harmless Apparatus Accords ODP 1 Apparatus,MHA 110537 The Unholy Alliance MDoAP 1 MK,TOP 95905 OMFG take your TOP off! MDoAP 1 OMFG,TOP 70899 Argent-TOP MDP MDP 1 Argent,TOP 52300 Viking Platypi ODoAP 1 NoR,TOP 106908 The Black Rose Grows ODP 1 RotR,TOP 71043 GATO-TLR MDoAP MDoAP 1 TLR,GATO 102849 The Chairman Meow Accords MDoAP 1 Int,GATO 104676 The Classy Cat Accords 2.0 MDoAP 1 LoSS,GATO 89810 Synergy Reloaded ODoAP 1 TIO,GATO 108860 The Auburn Rising Accords ODoAP 1 TPF,GATO 110712 The Globally-Conscious, Smart-Money Agreement ODP 1 Brain,GATO 103198 TLR-MK MDoAP MDoAP 1 TLR,MK 102849 The Nominal Accords MDoAP 1 NoR,MK 104464 Alchemy-MK MDoAP MDoAP 1 Alchemy,MK 73028 The Balkan Entente MADP 1 GOD,VE Deinos-VE MDoAP MDoAP 1 Deinos,VE Smooth Otter Not Post Drunk Accords ODP 1 Argent,VE 90527 MW-VE ODP ODP 1 MW,VE The Zen Accords ODP 1 GOONS,VE 91167 TLR-Denios MDoAP MDoAP 1 Denios,TLR 102849 The Last Communist MDoAP 1 Int,TLR 109731 GOONS-TLR MDOAP MDoAP 1 GOONS,TLR 102849 The Last Olympians ODoAP 1 Olympus,TLR R&R-Fark MDoAP MDoAP 1 R&R,Fark Mirthful Dolphins Osculating a Puppy MDoAP 1 RIA,Fark Marinated Duck On A Plate MDoAP 1 GOD,Fark The I Got Around to it (Eventually) Pact MDoAP 1 CSN,Fark 46804 Farkistan and Guru Order MDoAP MDoAP 1 Guru,Fark 62569 The Hardboiled Treaty ODP 1 NpO,Fark 84010 Legio Frigidum Treaty MDoAP 1 NpO,Legion 95670 The Purple Brothers Treaty MDoAP 1 Invicta,Legion 73798 The Itsy, Bitsy, Teenie, Weenie, Yellow Polka-Dot Bikini ODoAP 1 NADC,Legion 68604 The Treaty of Constantine the Great ODP 1 CCC,Legion The Treaty of Sangiovese 2.0 ODP 1 UPN,Legion The Concordat of Valaheimr MDoAP 1 NoR,Valhalla 90539 BAPS-Valhalla MDoAP MDoAP 1 BAPS,Valhalla Olympus-Valhalla MDoAP MDoAP 1 Olympus,Valhalla The TaTa Accords MDoAP 1 DT,Valhalla The Napalm in the Morning Accords MDoAP 1 ML,Valhalla Valhalla-SNAFU MDoAP MDoAP 1 SNAFU,Valhalla 110678 Vikings Don't Wear Plate, Knights Can't Bring Horses on Longboats ODoAP 1 TTK,Valhalla 104104 Nordic Panther Domination Accords MDoAP 1 LoSS,NoR 100598 DT-NoR MDoAP MDoAP 1 DT,NoR NoR-Symphony MDoAP MDoAP 1 Symphony,NoR # TDO: Neutral LoSS-TIO MDoAP MDoAP 1 LoSS,TIO MCXA-TIO MDoAP MDoAP 1 MCXA,TIO OMFG-TIO MDoAP MDoAP 1 OMFG,TIO GATO-TIO ODoAP ODoAP 1 GATO,TIO The We hate sex so much we decided to marry twice accords MDoAP 1 Int,R&R 92742 GO for R&R at the bar MDoAP 1 Guru,R&R Maroon and Orange Look Ugly Together Accords MDP 1 GOD,R&R Long Time Coming Accords ODP 1 Echelon,R&R The Tactical Tupperware Accords MDoAP 1 ML,TPF 45886 The Tango & Cash Accords MDoAP 1 SNAFU,TPF 86116 Hell Freezes Over MDoAP 1 TPF,STA 96987 Hell has come to Elysium and BAPs loves it Accords MDoAP 1 BAPS,TPF 106871 Treaty at Bakura MDP 1 NSO,TPF The Federation Flies the CCCP MDP 1 Int,TPF 110284 Foreign Article 5 MDoAP 1 TFD,NATO North Atlantic Compact Treaty MDP 1 NADC,NATO 78301 The Covenant ODP 1 CCC,NATO The "Everything Old is New Again" Pact ODP 1 RoK,NATO 101568 NpO-UPN MDoAP MDoAP 1 UPN,NpO The Frozen Holy Water Pact MDP 1 CCC,NpO 59431 NpO-RIA ODoAP ODoAP 2 RIA,NpO The International Maho Accords MDoAP 1 Int,NEW 106497 The New Fearless Pact MDoAP 1 FEAR,NEW 50997 # Deinos: No treaties with weaker alliances Love for Blue and Bombs MDoAP 1 GDA,MCXA The Blood-Ice Accords MDoAP 1 NADC,MCXA God's Holy Army of Bears MDP 1 CCC,MCXA The MOSS Accords ODoAP 1 LoSS,MCXA Multicolored GOD Treaty ODoAP 1 GOD,MCXA TTK-CSN MDoAP MDoAP 1 CSN,TTK GOD-TTK MDoAP MDoAP 1 GOD,TTK CRAP-TTK MDoAP MDoAP 1 CRAP,TTK GLOF-TTK PIAT PIAT 1 GLOF,TTK TTK-RoK PIAT PIAT 1 RoK,TTK 103552 Ordinary Men on Giant Fighting Dragons MDoAP 1 OMFG,Argent 90420 # Int: No treaties with weaker alliances[/quote]

[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1336973782' post='2967239'] Who cares about you being aggressors? We need more aggressors. Stop making being passive a virtue.[/quote] Aggression doesn't happen in a vacuum. The people whose nations get attacked in war don't necessarily want that fate for their nations and hell, most of them don't even deserve it. Frankly, life is pretty good when you're not the sort of person who needs to kick over other people's sandcastles to have fun.

Naming your micro after an existing alliance...bad form.

[quote name='Hiro Nakara' timestamp='1336652928' post='2965834'] Pandoras Box, as strong as ever. Ohh well. FOK, you shall not be missed really. [/quote] Speak for yourself, bub. [quote name='MutedFaith' timestamp='1336653206' post='2965838'] It's a sad day; realizing that I won't ever be able to return home again.. [/quote] More confirmation that we are, indeed, chopped liver. It's okay, though. Chopped liver is delicious.

What has Bob come to?

[quote name='Believland' timestamp='1336289169' post='2964394'] I'd like to believe everything that LSF does is a lapse of reason. Congrats on being 6 years, LSF. [/quote] "Lapse" implies LSF was ever reasonable in the first place

[quote name='Zoomzoomzoom' timestamp='1336267608' post='2964251'] Post would make more sense if you had said RnR. 4/10 [/quote] Post would make more sense if you were talking about a really existing alliance instead of this "RnR". Everyone knows "&" > "n". 4/10

[quote name='Pingu' timestamp='1336275371' post='2964311'] Liberalism is false consciousness. Just sayin' [/quote] Word. Straight from the Penguin's mouth.

Good content, really crappy presentation. There's not even any mention of arranging the blocks.

[quote name='Letum' timestamp='1336084541' post='2963083']Does this mean we get to have a menage-a-trois? I approve.[/quote] And who are we, chopped liver? Hearty congratulations to TPF and GATO.

[quote name='Centurius' timestamp='1335884834' post='2961622'] Get over it already, remember who nuked again to start that war. [/quote] The ICP. As in not the LSF. Also, I lol'd.

They say that, come the revolution, some elements of the privileged class will see the light, and come over to the side of truth and justice. Is Admin one of those souls? Time will tell. /me whistles Twilight Zone theme.