Burning Glory

Did someone say beer? I was in the post 3 doors down and thought I heard beer.... Congrats on the War and GL to both! Alex15, your QUOTE cracks me up, ever time I read it i gotta laugh!! BG

You talk So much BS, and you lie so much that you can't even keep up with your own lies. From one post to another you even change your story, but I wanted you to see them side by side so you couldn't back pedal or make excuse. So yet again I call BS, and I've already stated in last post how and as such! Your nothing more than an imature, lying, PoS! I wish you would chase down the pm's, I want you to post them right here so everyone can see your a fricken lying $&! PoS! I can't wait, to make you look like the rambling fool your making yourself out to be. And once you post yours I'll post mine, then we'll see if they match and which one of you are lying, then Admin and the powers that be can deal with you! About the avengers and the rest of your back stepping, contradicting, running off with the mouth full of BS post.....STFU already, your so happy to see everyone come in on the avengers and when the tables turn you want to complain that they focused all their power on D1. Then you want to make excuses that all but Fata1 were noobs as the reason they got beat down. When in reality D1 has several good fighters at least a dozen. The fact is they got beat because D1 made the mistake of going against TA and FF together with most only having 10 mil WC, or less. Members in D1 also did dirt spy ops with disregard that the other members of D1 would suffer retribution even though they were told that, their actions would result in the same thing. Personnaly, I think the Gov of D1 owes their AA an apology. Have you ever stopped for one second to reread your BS, do you not have a life or better things to do then come on here and try to cause problems and tell lies? You are so ridiculous, its not even funny! And have you ever thought that people of TE don't agree with you, or agree with the pilling on of the avengers? Well let me tell you I don't and I've talked with several other people in other alliances that don't either. Now I'll wait patiently for those altered messages so I can get some due justice;) BG

You lying piece of shiat, just like I knew you were. Just like I knew you were lying about Stevie and the rest of avengers. Show me the loggs, messages, or any proof that your going to lie and say you have or have seen, which means you can get them! Go ahead and throw Fatal under the bus just like you did Cowboy when you said "well that's what CB said after your last BS post. I'm going to save you yet another post and call you out on it right now, I know Fatal would not show you altered messages, I know this because it's a game rule not to make false or altered messages. Never, ever have I asked him for a truce ever! I attacked his nation and I did so knowing he had nukes! You think I care about taking damage? If you do, your even more stupid than I thought you were FYI there are a few ( I won't name names) Avengers that I was in discussion with on IRC when I found out that D1 hit them too. I explained to them that I had the ability to buy a MP and that I would attack D1 nations with nukes more less to exchange nukes for nukes unless they kept it clean. Keep in mind that at this point no avengers had nukes let alone a MP. Now I'll tell you the kind of guys they were, the short of it was they said not to put myself in that situation, they knew they were going to eat nukes. So don't you dare sit there with your pathetic ramblings and talk crap about avengers! You Boy don't know your ass from a whole in the ground! About the only thing Fatal can tell you is that I told him that if he kept it clean so would I..... So now post your BS here so I can take the next step and get rid of you once and for all Far as your BS about DD, I don't think he cares if you believe him or not, I have known him since he started playing TE and I have never known him to lie about anything, nor has he ever had the need to. Further more I'll go as far to say that he nor any other avenger owe you anything let alone a reason or a lie! BG

Ssssshhhhhhiiiiat who doesn't love The Avengers, I've seen the movie twice now, as well as all the independent ones like Thor, Iron Man, Hulk, etc. Parts 123 and so on! Seriously, "a fanboy" lmao, uh No! If you have paid any attention at all, 99 percent of my post are only to call out your BS. You didn't see me respond to anything you posted that I agreed with, or that I know nothing about, ie rounds before last round when I wasn't playing. If you remember correctly I even agreed with you in most of your post last round, and even had words with Stevie. Once more read through my post again, I even mentioned that I didn't agree with their targets or even thought it was fair. What I did state was they hit with a hand full of nations against 3 alliances, that they were not trying to kill or beat down anyone. Meaning, they could have just attacked one alliance sending in half or better of their nations and truely killed that said alliance. I just happen to know that half of what you were saying was not true (not going to say how I know) and I wasn't going to just sit back and let you talk smack. Although I didn't know for sure that FF would be on his hit list, I had my suspicions and held off myself and others in FF in buying the MP. (Although using your speculation, we were going to hit OP too, right?) My thoughts were they hit TPC first like they did to see who might hit them back, thinking that it would have been FF due to my ties with TPC. Since that didn't happen, they were going to attack us, but after CB told Stevie he wanted to hit us and WD, Stevie said ok and then picked misfits. During the same time, I was preparing to gear up for war (just in case we were attacked) but also because if we were not then we wanted to war. At this point regaurdless I contacted alliances (out of respect and friendship) and discussed War. Soon after avengers hit RE and misfits. And soon after that D1 hit Avengers and FF.....That screwed up my war plans but ehhh, it was still war. Now with all that said, and knowing for sure that FF was on their target list (as per Stevie's post in another part) and even going as far as to say no I wouldn't of been happy if they attacked (because unlike RE, misfits, and TPC we had been in a war already this round and thus it severely screwed our building) still I call out your BS! I also know that if they had attacked, and I went to them they would have peaced us out and made no big deal of it. Not because I have friends there but because I know for a fact (and until I see different) that they are not out to beat anyone down. Example, last round when the war with TPC and Avengers happened I had a convo with a friend of mine in avengers and asked how long the war was set to last. With out discussing what I was told, I went to KJ and he told me that we would War for the full duration as that was TPC's way. Ok who was I to argue, it wasn't my alliance anymore and the rest is history. Do I think that eventually Avengers would have attacked OP, sure at some point but not now, not the way you say. Besides even if they would have attacked, or had plans to attack so what! Wouldn't that have made it better for TPC, RE, and misfits the very reason your complaining? Again even if it were the case, would that justify OP coming in on them now? Nough said brother! BG

Doesn't surprise me, I don't get a lot of stupid kiddy jokes but then again I'm not on that level. Maybe next time I'll check with you to help me out, just like my 7 yr old I'll pretend to laugh. At least with the atlas point you make sense, far as avengers declaring ridiculous unfair wars, not so much. They DoW'd a hand full of nations from three alliances with like half of their nations. Now was it unfair? Maybe so, but At least they were not aiming to destroy/beat down the three alliances and the other alliances had a chance to defend. It's also unfair and no different that D1 attacked us (TPC) last round just 6 or 7 days out of war with avengers. Now that "joke" made me laugh, although I wasn't specifically talking about you drinking the koolaid, more of people who believe The BS DT is spreading about avengers. But as long as you two have merged into one being, maybe you can produce a full brain <------ joke :P BG

Again I call BS! Anyone with even half a brain can see that your lying. I mean look at your reply, it screams " I don't know what I'm talking about"! Even in your own wording you give doubt, and imply that you have no proof but this is an assumption on your part. If you have the proof, (which I know for a fact that you don't) post it. With your record of spouting off BS DT, I'm going to have to say I doubt this too. Even if Stevie did tell Fatal what "you think" he said, so what! Using your own words D1 was never asked to attack OP, you said they were asked to hit WD so what does that prove. AS I said before if Avengers wanted to hit OP they would have when they hit TPC....just like last round. You keep saying Stevie this and Stevie that, but let me point out to you that Stevie is not running avengers this round. At least not by himself. This is how I know your talking s$&!, the leaders this round were tring to shake things up, period! I believe the reason for this is because they wanted to go a new direction, to keep avengers from being labeled so to speak. Anyone that knows me, knows I tell it like it is, I don't BS. I believe that even though this is a game it should be played with integrity, honesty, and honorably with morality and a code of ethics. I don't believe in back stabbing for any cause, and I have the decency to tell a friend I don't agree with him/her and not back stab them. You see you don't always have to agree with someone just because your friends, for that matter you don't even have to stand behind them on something you disagree with....But you never betray a friend and you certainly never hit them from behind! I have several friends in avengers, good friends as well as people I'd like to think of as friends, I also have several friends in Misfits, RE, Fist, WD, OP, NDO and my old brother hood TPC. This is why in our DoE In my post I stated that FF was a neutral alliance. I did not want to get involved in the Politics or the rhetoric BS on the fourms. At the same time late last round and at the start of this round I strived to make TE a better place. To many good people have quite this game because of all the BS. Whith that said, I can tell you for a fact that OP was not on avengers hit list and that avengers never asked D1 to hit WD, I know your flat out lying or spreading things you believe with no facts to back them.

Why would they have or need stats for that? They had nothing to do with Atlas and atlas was not technically rolled. They were attacked by "D1 to help us out" for three days of which they actually went to a better alliance run by a better person! They were also attacked by Jihad over and over, to which "Das and a few other avengers" basically said enough is enough!! But if you want the stats I can sum it up for ya, 33 atlas nations attacking my 11 nations on like day 8 or 9. The rest is is all through the fourms. I'm starting to believe there was this huge cult or coalition formed and to many of you drank the cool aid..... Seriously none of you can really believe this is even remotely close to a fair war, or a just war for that matter? BG

I call BS!! Show your proof DT, if not stop spreading this propaganda BS..... First off if Avengers wanted to hit OP or take out OP, then they would have done so when they attacked TPC. Instead they attacked RE (lightly, not full force) and Misfits, again lightly not full force. I wont pretend like I know why but I'm sure they have there reasonings, nor will I say I agreed with it. What I will say is what I believe, TPC is one hell of a fighting and building force. I know because I started that alliance from the ground up and know most everyone there and their capabilities. With that said, this is why I think Avengers attacked them first....to take out the real competition of TE. Again I'm not saying I agreed with their targets, but maybe they were trying to shake things up and attack different alliances. Also let me point a few other things out that I think we're already mentioned. First, it was obvious that no one was going to attack them, so if they didn't attack anyone and just kept growing where do you think They would be by mid round? And how bad do you think the alliance/s they hit would of complained. Second, everyone playing this game is given the same set up to play and start with, and everyone playing the past few rounds knows that avengers are going to build and war. So why did no one take the fight to them first. Third, they put it out there saying they were going to attack another alliance or 2, again no one steped up to hit them. Forth, they have all but begged someone bring the fight to them Fifth, even though they are already waring with 3 alliances, they get hit by 35 nation alliance with 7 or 8 carrying nukes Yet I've yet to hear a single one complain, other than to say they were lied to and basically back stabbed. WTF would you have done if this happened to you? You need to stop bringing up past rounds and SE into TE. The shit is getting old and no one wants to hear it again and again! I'll be honest here, I can't stand a back stabber (I've had it happen to me playing this very game) even though I see where CB is coming from and regardless his reasoning. He should have just been up front with Avengers!! I mean WTF did it accomplish to lie and attack, they were already at war with maxed troops, and it's not like they could have got peace from anyone so there is no militarily reason for doing so. I think CB is a pretty good guy, appears to be anyway but IMO this was a BS move because of the way he did it. since your always talking about unfair this and unfair that, Where the heck were you when FF got hit by Atlas barely past a week from the start of the round, by 3 to 1 odds and half of us not even having our TC's set up. Do you know what that does growth wise to your nation when you collect with out being set up properly, and use cash for waring VS building? Where was anyone else that "says" all the time this is unfair, blah,blah,blah? BG

Tell me about it, we have already booted like 6 or 7 nations. Chuks, not sure what you meant by needing a guide, can you clairify on that? I mean there are several kinds of guides..... BG

"Noob" well I could see you making some mistakes....But I would like to point out that there has been post made through out the fourms about this sort of thing. I'd say it's a good thing that you came on here and owned up but some FYI, this didn't destroy a whole alliance. Jihad was a war target for RE, that's all. The attack on you and your trade partners was the result of your actions. The good thing IMO, Avengers are not the kind of alliance to do a beat down. A lesson learned, Definately BG

IMO, that's dirty spy ops even in war, let alone with a nation not even at war with'em......WTF was he thinking. BG

Yeah I think you caught FIST with their pants down on this one. Kinez, I love the screen shoot you post with the DoW.....the part at the top where it says "target list for Fist war" Epic, made me laugh! good luck to both sides! BG

You know I read back through every post in this thread, I did not see any threat of anyone forming "a TE police" to raid alliances who do not conform to anyone's specific view. And I'm pretty sure everyone that posted in here has an alliance in TE. What I do see is people from various alliances voicing their opinions on the injust raiding policies of other people and even alliances. I do think it's funny that you used the term "morals" as it was the morals of Atlas that got them attacked in the first place. BG

OMG, I just about fell out of bed LMAO when I read this! On topic, I just now saw this post (haven't been on here much) Seiryuu has a valid complaint. I ask anyone who thinks this is fair to put yourself in their shoes, still think he's butt hurt? Would you like it if this happened to you? We can't all come on here myself included and voice our opinion on what's right and what's wrong until we put ourselves in the shoes of those we point fingers at. Obviously what atlas did was wrong, and I'm pretty sure everyone playing TE agrees on that. I'm greatful that D1 steped up and helped out, for that matter nor did I care that Jihad came in as well. I think Atlas as a whole needed a quick corse on TE etiquette, especially KG! However the continual raiding and spying of AoW and even Atlas is unjust especially in the manner it's been done to them! No matter what excuse you put in the reason field, and this makes you no better than the reason it was done in the first place. A raid is a raid, it happens, it's TE. However a raid doesn't mean you have to destroy your target especially if they are in no condition to fight back, you don't have to spy away Tech or land or mess with collection to raid and get the XP for it, simply spy the Defcon lvl, gather Intel or destroy CM. I don't care much for KG, I think he is childish and immature. That doesn't mean that I hate him or can't stand him, I simply think he needs to grow up and think about his actions and choice of words before he does/ says them. This also doesn't mean that I think he needs a round long beat down. Everyone makes mistakes and everyone was once new, he's probably a good kid that just needs some guidance and I think he's in the right hands for that. By no means am I saying myself or my alliance are the police of TE, but what I am saying is Fearless Fighters does not condone the destruction of a nation or an alliance through war or raiding. We do not condone the continual raiding or waring of a nation or alliance especially with out a standard end date or cease of hostilities. So I ask you again, you still think it's fair.....Cause you might just find yourself the victim of the same actions! BG

You hit the nail right on the head! He has 2 great offers, the Misfits is a great alliance that would surely straighten him out and teach him a thing or two. And Cowboy, well he has one of the best attitudes in the game. Either would greatly do him some good if he can shut his mouth for about 5 minutes. BG

KG, my advice to you is to first own up to your mistakes, then learn how things work over here before you jump head first into a war or leading an alliance. Also just because this is a game doesn't mean that you can play it with out ethics, or disregard for sovereignty of other alliances, especially when attacking way under your ability.....Let alone the ridiculous surrender terms, regardless of your excusess. I sincerely hope you have learned a valuable lesson on humility and make better decisions in the future. BG

My apologies for the late post, Im a lineman for the local utility company and unfortunately worked all weekend till mid day yesterday. You know how people get when the power goes out,lol! First off, I want to thank everyone for their support friends and allies both here and on the battle field. It was very appreciated by both my self and FF members! As of yet I have not been contacted by KG about peace. However.... Cazaric has kept things honorable and I ask that everyone attacking his new alliance Angles of War, please send/except peace, and not hold him or any of his true members responcible for the rouges that are attacking other alliances in an obvious attempt to get AoW further attacked. My guess is that someone is ticked that he left and took most of Atlas with him. As far as Atlas goes, I have yet to hear anything from KG wanting peace. I wish AoW best of luck, and a special thanks to those who backed/supported FF Thanks again for your support! BG

It is true Cazaric had contacted me in game yesterday evening about tring to set up peace. He explained that he was only MoFA, but did not agree with KG III on attacking us. He also said he would try to get peace, but was afraid of being booted if he ordered a cease fire. I wasn't aware that he decided to form his on alliance untill today when he informed me. Cazaric has kept things honorable and I ask that everyone attacking his new alliance Angles of War, please send/except peace, and not hold him or any of his true members responcible for the rouges that are attacking other alliances in an obvious attempt to get AoW further attacked. My guess is that someone is ticked that he left and took most of Atlas with him. As far as Atlas goes, I have yet to hear anything from KG wanting peace. I wish AoW best of luck, and a special thanks to those who backed/supported FF BG

Yeah I read that somewhere, but are we actually talking on the first or a day in the week of the first? That's just not real specific.... BG

Ha I'm proof of that! I know what it's like to need a break, and in my case I didn't really have a choice, but leaving TE I knew that I had left TPC in good hands.....KJ was a great CO leader and has been one of the best Leaders in TE. He has ruled with honor, integrity dedication, and self sacrifice, I believe 4 things that are a must for any good leader, not to mention IMO TPC's GOV is second to none! There are several people playing TE that I respect as players and builders, but there is only a hand full of people That I respect as a person, KJ is one of them! He will be missed as a leader! o/ hail to one of the best alliances in TE history! o/ hail to KJ, who helped make that possible! BG BTW KJ, you'll need a hobby it gets boring setting around watching your grass grow and yelling at the neborhood kids to stay off your lawn!

Rounds over, let's hope for a better round next round, put this behind everyone and move on! BG

For the record, we are a neutral alliance. We will have several elite members from past and present rounds, But we will also be training and helping a few noobs as well. Our goal is to make TE a better place and put the fun back into the game! We have no interest in flags..... With that said, underestimating us and our ability to fight/defend would be a grave mistake! Kitty that was FN hilarious, I don't care who you are that's funny shit right there! BG

That's funny, I didn't hear you call out an entire AA either.....Not sure if he is "butthurt" or not but he did come across asSomeone trying to be a tough guy but lacks the ability to follow through so he wants to involve his entire AA. I always thought the leader of Citadel was better than that, heck I don't even hear SG acting like that. For what it's worth DT, you have my full support and respect!! I've been around TE long enough to know that sooner or Later KARMA will catch up to those who play dirty, those leaders will reap what they sow. I don't really think what he is saying about "you" is any different than what your saying he did, if anything that maybe he was Better at it than you and pulled it off! Far as singling him out and rolling him, I'm actually surprised you haven't done so or tried It yet. Maybe your waiting for next round when he actually builds a nation, not sure on that or not but it wouldn't surprise me. The only thing I can say is that at least you are having the avengers go after other high builders in the rest of the AA's, of course this could be a flag run attempt as when I check out damage reports by various avenger nations damage is very minimal for 2 and 3 Days of attacks. In all honesty, I really see nothing wrong with that especially since you apparently didn't succeed last round. I just think that all the other BS you pulled this round is, well BS! BG

Welcome back cucks! GL with NATO!

lol, with closeness like this we may as well move in together....on second thought, scratch that! We would probably fight over the TV, who's next in line for the shower, and who gets the top bunk :P Yeah instead we'll both just throw rocks at all of D1's houses. Gl luck in the war everyone! But mostly our side :P BG