Burning Glory

One of the nations that attacked you made a far bigger up declare than you ever have, did so at like 1,800 infra to your 2,200 infra (at the time), your bigger AF and bigger navel that keep doing block aids (which is why I gave some to Fatal) and one attacked you right around your infra. And yes, your right....you attacked to nations a bit bigger than you with you having a Tax collection from that day and again before you were nuked. You entered the war 2 days later after we were already waring several nations during those 2 days. You also forgot to mention that Fatal hit those same 2 nations you hit which gave you the 1vs1 odds and me and GC the 1 vs 5 odds. So don't act like you came at me all brave, posting on here like you were going to beat me and GC down when you had all the advantages in this war over both us. Those 2 nations that hit you only gave "you" odds a bit closer to mine. You fighting 4 nation, me fighting 5. Let me also point out that I did more damage to you then any other nation hitting you, and you didn't do shiat to me in comparison! Also I could have had that last slot of your filled and I didn't, God knows that if I took your better odds away from you and gave you my same battle odds that you would have really cried, so no I didn't get all the help I could have. ;) The war is over, you had your rear handed to you, it happens get over it! Yes, they did! Obviously I can't prove some of what happened cause they were not caught, but process of elimination Says they did. Unless someone from your side was doing dirty ops on people they were not even at war with. Oh wait, that was you! You were the one doing dirty ops to nations you were at war with, and ones you were not. Even though some ops were not caught, it was believed Fata1 had his hand in them as well as you. But you getting caught doing them to people you and he both attacked, that's what got Fatal hit by nukes. Here's some proof; Message: -----Original Message----- From: Daenerys Targaryen Date: 5/4/2015 1:27:09 AM Subject: Spy Operation Attack Body: A spy operation has been launched against your nation. In the attack the enemy spies targeted your federal reserves and managed to destroy $1,000,000.00 money. In the attack your counter spies managed to kill 20 enemy spies and your attackers identity has been publicly revealed. So he can thank you for the nuke that GC gave him, I didn't one time do ops on him and he nuked me (cause you couldn't) :P And unfortunately you spying other people with dirty ops is what got CB nuked.....so yes all got what they had coming to them if for no other reason because of you. Pat your self on the back! You know what's really screwed up? The fact that after the first few you did you were warned that your actions would cause other nations to get nuked and your reply was "I don't care, I'm going to do all the damage I can". I'm more than happy to post those messages, lie about it and I will.No wonder D1 nations are stating to not like DT. DT, let me wish you good luck rebuilding, I mean that! BG

More Lies, blah, blah, BS talking, hypocritical and biased, post. TDO didn't even use 25% of our nukes, and they were only Used on the nations that had it coming to them for dirty ops. Also, he didn't tell anyone to beat down WD and D1, he said he hopes TDO does! Watch your threats DT, I'd be careful of telling other people to be careful....I'd also like to point out that since you think so lowly of RE, doesn't this mean you feel Misfits did a down declare? You think you and that bloc can sit over there and make threats and act like you run TE.! Well I'm here to tell you, you don't! And far more people are pissed that you try and tired that you ruin these rounds.....your no one, and with out yanking D1's chains you wouldn't even have made it this far. Oh and he has my backing...touch him because he voices his opinion and you will face me in another beat down! Again with you trying to act like you run things, making threats, and stuff. If you want to know the truth I have several messages from D1 members that said they are fed up with the BS too. We are all tired of you and this BS you guys do, talk about other alliances behind their back, plot, scheme and get mad because other alliance leaders don't want in this BS, they want it to stop. your so blinded by hate that you can't even see the whole reason this war happened was to stop the tyranny that bloc has brought to this round. Yes, TPC and avengers have war'd, same with WD, and recently D1(now that Cowboy back stabbed SG) It's a war game! But this holding grudges, and complaining about everything is worse than anything. It's time to move on, get over it and plan the next war....sure we expect to see D1 or WD at some point in the future in this round that's fine. o/ peace I ask that everyone give D1 and WD 15 days to rebuild Thanks BG

Hia sweetness! I do love our little talks and walks in the park :) However I do hate when you lie and we fight. It's just not worth it baby girl *BG blinks, blinks * So please stop your BS now, stop the crying and complaining and telling lies. Also, could you explain to me and the rest of TE what "every major advantage" TDO has? I'll give you the first one, nukes :) but now you have helped them, and several other nations in D1 have them and even one nation had a MP when we attacked. You guys also have SDI's to help against those nukes. Now your turn, what's the rest? It's definitely not numbers as that side has 18 more nations that US. While your at it explaining things, please explain why it's ok for you and your side to do everything You have berated and scrutinized TA for, and now US? Everything! Thank you most honorable and moral person that has ever gifted us with your presence in TE. Your most humble noob :) BG Your turn player!

Lol, says the girl who just jumped ship to destroy her nation! No, you just spend all day trolling the forums telling lies and spreading hate for people that disagree with you. Now you sing a different tune because you know Alex was alway in the right! You come up with more shiat then my kids do, how old are you 13? BTW, why don't you tell Alex what you reall said about Citidal! Thank you SW, I do appreciate that! Since I also have no idea how to get a screen shot on my iPad to here, I'll send you something via message. BG

Again with your lies, lies , lies, BS, BS! I hit 2 nations under me and one nation my size...I'm also fighting Fata1 who is basically my size. That's 4 and you are damn close to my size, that's 5....you have 2 wars close to your size. You are the one that's a coward! Not to mention your late to the party! You talk of begging for help, lol your a hypocrite! There is no way you would have attacked me with out Fata1, no way at all! I know you and him have been talking, and you both set this up! I also know fata1 went begging for help from other alliances No worries though.....all I see is that Fata1 came to negotiate terms for war and then does these actions, I think the terms might have to change. Hey I can do that too! You have just conducted a spy operation against the nation of Dragonstone. In the attack your spy efforts were successful as your spies were able to target and destroy 1 enemy nuclear missile. Although the mission was a success your spies were caught, 20 spies were killed, and your identity has been publicly revealed. Just what I said I would do, and you got 2 of those! You will get more, and yes you will have your slots full as well Now ain't that sweet! ;) Like I always said, she is a hypocrite and biased! Everything is all good for her side all is ok as long as they do it! I'm thinking she might just be roughing though, we should find that out for sure, maybe get Fata1's opinion on this. I mean he discussed a completely different standard last night before update. BG

SW, I don't personally know what kind of an alliance WD was or has become. The current leader BE use to be a good friend of mine back in the day, but since I returned 3 rounds ago I have messaged him a few times and he did not respond back. I obviously have no idea why as back then I was a protectorate of his alliance and we war'd together several times. Anyway I can say that I do know that since this war started several of your members have sent "nasty messages" to my guys. I will also say that at the start of this war, any leadership could have come to me or Caz and asked our stance on the use of our nukes.....That didn't happen. Instead, the very first things that did happen "was" what we "did" put into our DoW. That being no dirty spy ops. Several nations had it done and at the same time several nations had some nukes spied and some nations had failed attempts. I can definitely understand the spying of nukes not knowing if they would be used or not. So again I say it was the leadership of WD that should have got a definitive answer to our intentions regarding their use. I have stated that I personally was on the fence about using them at all, and I even post in our announcements section to refrain from using them unless that piticular nation was over whelmed with war and/or targets or if a nation had ops used on them that were dirty or messed with their nukes. I would be more than happy to send a copy of this to you or anyone that would like to see it. Now, since you state your beliefs on how you would have done things and your stance on everything when you were leading, I must also say that I do find that hard to believe. For one, you tried to get my hands smacked by reporting me for something that was a reciprocation of what was posted to me, about me from DT. Yet you did not report DT for that which was actually what was the act that you tried to report me for. This tells me if anything you are biased and vengeful. Now after that, I could have tattletale on DT and more that likely actually had something happen to her as she did indeed commit that violation. But I did not. As much as I do not like DT, I don't believe in those actions and she was not the one who did it. Yes I have seen her do it to other people before but it was not me. The other thing I will point out is that WD joined a bloc to take out TA and in doing so went against ALL the standard rules WE as the TE community set in place to be fair and honorable. Hitting early, dirty spy ops, standard 10 day rest time to recoup. Clearly this was an attempt to take out Avengers for the whole round, especially how heated DT got knowing that the plans of hitting them again after TPC was stopped by us. So your going to have to forgive me if I find that what you say is maybe not so much as a lie but more professed. Personally I think this has ruined the round, and needs to stop....but let me ask you this, would you have agreed to this "bloc" and spying against TA? If so would you agreed to the attacks with out letting them get their standard 10 day rebuild time? In order to shorten this response, please read my reply to DD.... This is exactly the feed back many TDO is giving DD, and I have to agree makes complete sense. I mean all of these nations could have used that wonder slot to buy an Econ boosting wonder on top of that 12-15 mil it cost to buy the MP's and nukes. The other thing is after the war that Econ wonder would really help in the rebuild of our nations. I'd also like to point out that these nations we are fighting have advantages like numbers and a shiat load of XP plus I'm pretty sure many nations would of and still will buy MP and nukes to use on us tomorrow or the next day. TDO is not in the business to crush alliances, or even beat them down. If fact several nations have already sent peace to people we find have no way to fight back, or have no cash to rebuild with. TDO will give peace to any nation that wants it as long as they agree to that peace and not jump back in. We are also open to an early end date of this war if this is what the leaders of WD and D1 want. All we want and ask for is that all this BS stop, stop with the blocs, stop the dirty spy ops go back to the standard rules of the game we all seemed (or majority) agree on. It is our responsibility as the leaders of these alliances to keep this game fun fair as possible. To maintain a certain dignity, honor and morals when playing this game. Winning is not everything, especially not at the cost it's being done. We can all stand and point fingers at each other, but there is nothing getting done to stop the dwindling numbers in TE. Sadly, the people who cry the loudest are the ones doing nothing to stop it, only hurting it. DT, you don't have a "dog in this race" as you once said, and it's really none of your concern. Your biased opinions are not making a difference other than to make things worse. It is your comments on here that have push our guys to want to unload their nukes. I mean if your going to be chastised for actions that have not even happened then why the hell not! Now you say it "looks like" we are using nukes on nations that will struggle to rebuild, how the hell do you know? That's the same thing as saying "I'm guessing" or "I'm not sure" and you really have no clue. You call me a coward, your the one who didn't build four 2 rounds cause you knew running your mouth would get you a beat down. I told you I hit the targets I was assigned, I also hit one guy not assigned that was equal to me. I even tried to hit other people cause I thought we had 4 slots, not thinking that's only with a pentagon. It cost me 4 lost ground attacks because I full deployed then tried to DoW then only to be told my slots were full. That left me with minimal troops to defend and thus when I got hit exactly at n12:00 am I lost all 4. Stupid mistake, but lack of sleep mixed with long hours at work have a tendency to do that. Your the one who is a coward, not me! I don't turtle like I've heard about you. And I've never heard of you attacking anyone that would give you a fight. I'm lucky? No you are the one that is lucky, I would take your nukes and have you crushed by end war. Don't worry though, I'm sure you will get your chance to showcase your most excellent fighting skills down the road and show me how tough you are. STFU already pet BG

Careful ED, she is a killa, just ask her :) This is one of three I have been informed of/or about, not to mention that several have had nukes spied away. We purposely posted our stance on the spying, we would not do so other than Intel and defcon. We were uncertain about rather we should use nukes during this war and was was going to post that we hold off. Apparently WD and/or D1 are cool with using everything in there arsenal and now I have no doubt that if they had nukes and we didn't, they would use them on us....it also reminds me of my first round back when D1 hit TPC and I got nuked even though both nations that hit me had nukes and both were well above my infra lvl (one even at 1000+). At this time I say weapons go, throw them if you got them! We were really hoping for a fun clean war, to see what we were capable of. BG

Regardless to what he thinks you seem to bash him every time he post, he is in titled to post what he thinks reguardless of which side he thinks is right or wrong. Let me put it to you just as simple and as plainly as I can DT, you know that very thing you said just a post or 2 ago where if we were To attack you guys you wouldn't blame us cause it's not our fault that you guys didn't stockpile nukes....Well it's also not our fault that D1 and WD rolled TA and NM instead of building to Day 15 like everyone usually does. As stated before, they have had way more time to rebuild than TA was given before TPC rolled in. Your just mad as you pointed out that we stopped the next wave of attacks against TA, yet you have the audacity to sit and complain about down declares. Something is truely screwed up in your head! Call it bipolar, or what ever it is that thinks you can punch someone in the mouth and think there is no justification to punching you back. I don't think you have the mental capacity to see that this round could have all been different had the standard rules been followed. Oh I forgot, the rules only apply when they suit you and yours, not to mention you make up your own rules...Typical adolescent female mind you have there baby girl. Your turn BG

This is about to get good baby girl.... I've called you out on so much of your BS, it ain't even funny. You back step, lie, spin things and make excuses for everything you post. And 99% of what you post is bashing TA, or anyone who calls you out on your BS. Yes, yes I'm going to compare AW attacking NDO to our war, but the only reason I even did so was because you are so full of biased shiat that it had to be pointed out. Oh, it was AW first war, you made it worse then it actually was, blah blah blah.....I did not state anything that was not true so there for it was not worse than it was. You say AW had noobs and it's ok to down declare if you have noobs, you don't want to take a war that you might actually loose, yet last round FF (new alliance, with noobs) hit misfits and D1 with AoW (new alliance, with noobs) and you were one of the biggest cry babies there were, and that wasn't even a down declare! So now I've shot your "they are noobs" BS all to hell, let me move to the next point.....Of their 16 nations that attacked 8 NDO, yes there was some who could not fight initially, like 4 or 5, but only for the first 2 days of that war. There was only 2 nations that couldn't attack. So that's still 14 nations to 8, and then you have NDO, who of that 8 1 or 2 couldn't fight either, so the odds just went back up. Then you add way more nations with that higher NS lvl (you know the stats that now matter to you in our war) more tech and the fact that NDO only had 3 nations that were actually not noobs, RR being one of them. But wait I'm not done, you keep saying AW were new and had noobs, but the truth is their top 5 guys came from D1. So yeah, the alliance was new but the leader was not which everyone will agree, there is no excuse to use for that so you can shove that excuse up your rear. And sure now your going to post that you were thinking of evening up those odds, how convenient for you to do so well after the war. Truth be told and I'm the only one telling it, you had no intentions of doings so because you didn't want to piss off CB and Fata1 I do appreciate you bringing up the nuke thing, I sure did not see you post in that thread that you were disappointed in AW for using nukes when NDO had none, only now when the same situation happens to D1. Yet more proof that your biased!! Now let me tell you something that's going to blow your mind, you think I don't like AW because I think they are a D1 spinoff. Not true, not true at all! In fact, TDO and AW have ties, yeah that's right! What those ties are, are no of your business. But let's just say that those ties is why I got so heated when they attacked NDO. Let that spin in that box you call a brain. And now, after we hit D1 and WD, you say we should have hit you guys, lol! Then even post that you wouldn't complain, it's not your fault that you didn't stock pile nukes like us, OMG, that is amoung the top funniest shiat you've said!!! Everyone, and I do mean everyone knows that is a BS statement if ever their was one. You would have cried so bad and there would be walls upon walls of boohoo about how we hit you. Man your not even a good lier anymore. Are you not happy that we changed things up? I mean, we war'd you guys several times last round, did you really want a repeat of that? Like I said me and your co leader had a convo, things were changed and I'm sure this is for the best of both our AA's Lastly, I do love your open invitation to come attack you, and yes I would most definitely destroy you....I'd take those nukes from you and beat you so low you wouldn't be able to by them back. But on the real you only made that comment because you know I'm not going to leave this war and my peeps for a pissing match with you.....remember you said it, I have nukes to hand out! But don't you worry that day is coming, you will get your chance to see why I'm a beast ;) Oh I forgot, not all three of my targets are a down declare one is on par with me. If you must know, I was given my targets and albeit I think the 2 I was given should have been higher, I have faith that my war coordinator had his reason for this, and besides, like I said one is not and I do have one more open slot itching to be used. Stop with the threats KB, it's not you or have I over estimated your honor? Besides that this round doesn't last much longer and I'm pretty sure TPC will not be joining anymore witch hunts with D1 and WD so let's keep things cool. First off, I don't WAR my friends especially with out going to them first and saying hey how do you feel about a friendly war? Ask KB, I did this very thing with him last round, still even have the screen shot of the messages we exchanged. TPC, Citadel, and even OP are among my friends, Now that's not to say that I talk to anyone of them on a regular basis. Cause I don't, but there are many, even in my own alliance that I don't talk to for days to weeks. Now end round war, well that's a different story.....I was even going to put TA opposite of us last round just so they had the chance to fight alongside TPC or OP. It just didn't work out like I wanted. Oh yeah, I even remember you complaining about that war and it was as fair as fair could be. But I've realized unless we are fighting with our backs against the wall, your never going to agree so I could care less about your opinion. I think it does make sense KB, I truely do! Sure we could have hit you guys but who else, who else is even left? As stated above, I'm not going to hit Citidel or OP. I'm not sure who spied you, maybe someone else has plans to attack you but I know for sure it was not us? Besides that I already knew what you had as you your self stated. BG

How many times have I seen alliances post NS for stats in war, now you say it has nothing to do with it? Are you freaking serious? Really? Please read what you just posted! That is the most contradicting biased BS you have ever posted! Let me say it for you, it seems that this the only way you will pick up on this ridicules statement you made; Oh, whine/cry this is about eliminating 2 alliances that might try to beat down The Avengers (yet again) after their war with TPC. That way you guys might actually get a chance to build enough to defend yourself against the next onslaught of attackers. The terrible TDO, picked the softest war they could, why they don't even have MP's. Plus they are broke and recovering from the last war. Omg how can anyone agree to this, TDO is so terrible. Now let me point out your biased BS. Notice how you said we hit "2" alliances that might roll TA after their war with TPC? Yeah that! So it's ok for D1 and WD to hit TA with far far more time to recover than they would have let TA do after this TPC war, right? Then it was mighty fine for WD and D1 to not only roll NM (a new alliance, that you so called love to see) but to curb stomp TA too. Only to have TPC roll in not even 7 days of rest for them. Wait now let's get to the real problem that you have, we hit "2" AA's that you say we're going to hit TA yet again? Really? Well let me tell you they are not as broke as you think, and they have had way more time to build than TA did before they were attacked by TPC. So STFU With that BS!

Remember this post DT? Yet another post that you lie in and show your biased BS. Everyone please use the next post by this POS player to demonstrate her unyeilding hatred for those she hates. Oh, here we are....this is the scorned baby girl I know so well! Go a head and let your biased BS flow out that trap of a diarrhea mouth. It seems if your side does it, then there is every excuse in the book why it's justified. "Oh TA had it coming", "oh they are new". Truth is your nothing but a freaking hater that is biased against anyone you think backs TA. Did you ever stop to look at the stats (yes you can get your own, it's very easy, but we will post them soon)? Did you ever think that maybe we had no intentions of using our nukes? No, you didn't you just assume and give us our path before we even walk it. I'm am so sick and tired of you and your BS! BTW, who did you want us to hit? I'm curious, point out your fair fight! First off, we are no ones lap dog. We hit who we want, period! Second, is that a threat DT? Please answer that before I fill up my war slots! And yes we have friends that we don't want to war with....I mean, I don't see misfits jumping on D1! We don't need your approval, and I don't care to have it if you did approve! Before you go running off the mouth, check with your co leader, I messaged him about war. And lastly, I remember last round when D1 hit avengers with WD and D1 jumped on the nuke wagon thinking they would hit TA with nukes as at the time TA didn't have even MP or SDI's. It just so happened that DD and a few others were out of town and had not used their wonder slot and managed to get their own MP's and nukes. I guess that would have been fair had TA not been able to use their? Never mind don't answer, you will just come up with another biased excuse. BG

Very honorable between 2 of the best alliances in TE! Congrats to peace and mutual respect! BG

You are so full of Shiat! So where are you posting hatred towards AW for their DoW against NDO? Not once did you let that motor mouth scald them for these same "atrocities" you claim TA does. Why is this? I'll tell you why, because you know they are a spinoff of D1. I think you took that out of text, but of course only you would....unless it was D1, or anyone but TA, then it's all good! And you know what, who give a $&@? about that, it's their prize and what they do with it is their business!! I'm pretty damn sure they could care less about your thoughts on what they do with what they win. Why, are you jealous? I think PK is smart enough to see your a biased, full of it, hypocrite! And the truth behind everyone's hatred. I bet you didn't miss this all this BS did you? :P welcome back! BTW, I couldn't have said it better, well maybe better but not as short :) DT, this is someone who gets it! It's a damn game, and no matter what, somebody is going to complain! I also read in here that someone if not more than that, down declares every round and has every round. It's been that way since I started playing in round 1 and that will never change. Speaking of which, you would have never made it in the earlier rounds, just saying.... BG

Do you even read the SHIAT you post? You don't even know what your talking about "weeks to recover". But hey since you brought it up, at least TPC had weeks to recover! So your saying between TOC, OP, D1, WD, and Misfits they only have 17-18 good nation builders and fighters? Well first I'm going to tell you that is the second most stupidest and BS comment you have ever made, second only to you saying you don't lie and blah, blah, blah! Hippocrates are always the first to say it's fair and make up a reason why, yet the first to cry if the same would happen to them. Lol, I think your on to something here WH....some women can't handle being called out on their BS especially if they look the fool! And no you are definitely not the only one, it's her BS that got me to become a "cheer leader" as she puts it. Trust me other people think this war is undeserved. Everyone knows the plot and bloc that took place between TPC, D1, WD, and misfits....they all know. Any noob can see this was a huge down declare (definitely not the honorable TPC I know and Luv). But I will try not to put my foot into my mouth when I say, TPC is NO "D1", as bad as this is, and looks on TPC's part, I believe they know what bringing nukes into this would create. BG

Spoken like a true warrior RR, I have no doubt you will give'em hell! OMG I just about feel out of my chair, lol! Funny shiat! I think they will be getting a bit more than they bargained for :) Yeah, I don't doubt that, half the AA is D1....otherwise you'd not even bother to post. Unless it was NDO being the bully to AW. I know right, all that "I only stand for fairness" BS she is always trying to shove up TA's rear end! Let everyone see, NOW you see the real DT, when it comes to her side she has nothing to say. And there you have, right out of the "wolves" mouth! So what you saying is you didn't actually look for the weakest kids on the play ground, just the ones you knew you could beat up? And you never did answer my question, "based on your DoW your not sending in you new nations?" as it stands with just what you have it's very close to a curb stomp....throw those new nations in and well, it will most defiantly be. BG

Glad to see another new alliance, even though you guys have a several (3-5) veteran members :) This just seems to be a down declare. Your "young" nations will be able to attack soon(2 days), and you didn't take into account their Inactive's or under built nations compared to yours. The reason they have 5,700 ANS is they have 8 fewer nations than you guys, As the more nations you have the lower your ANS is. Not to mention your own stats give you guys more nations at higher ANS. Just saying you guys are new but there were a few AA's closer to your Size and ANS. Based on you DoW, I'm guessing you guys won't send in your newer nations when they are able to attack? BG

I didn't know you thought so much of SG and admit he has high intelligence like my self ;) I guess that means you agree as well :P Yeah maybe they will but, maybe they won't.... Lmao! Not sure many people would get this as I don't think WC are located much more than the Mid East US. For those who don't know, they are open at least til 2 am and many all night....been there many a times on the way home from the club :) BG

Alex, sadly if you don't agree with DT or if you post something she thinks you shouldn't (regardless that it's true) you get an onslaught of words berating you. You do have a right to post your opinion regardless to what she thinks and I beseech you to keep doing so, do not let her ignorance keep you from doing so! Lol, now you try to act like you didn't read it. We all know you read every single word and it's killing you to keep you big mouth shut :P I have a feeling this will be another time that you post something that's just not true, something that somebody "supposedly" said to you. I thought I explained to you last round that I'm TA's official, unofficial spokesman. I didn't accuse others of multis, what I did was accuse "YOU" of either having a multi "OR" a buddy to try and implant them into TDO, maybe I wasn't speaking simple enough for you when I said that....WE CLEAR NOW! How did I see this coming DT! Yet another example that you are a lying POS! And more proof that you have fabricated conversations with other people. Ez just caught it and called you out on it, in his own polite way :) Your credibility just keeps going down and down every time you open your mouth. Amazing! Just Amazing how you thought it was EZ, I'd say that to if I was covering up lies! Oh you care about me, you care about everything I post, mostly because you know it's true ;) So now your suggesting that you have the power (going around asking AA leaders to attack TOD) to get us rolled? Wait didn't you just in this thread say your not responceible for getting TA attacked? and didn't you say you only talk to 2 people on IRC? Yet now you propose to know we are getting rolled? And let me guess you will have had nothing to do with it? You keep putting that foot deep in that mouth, it suits you! OH NO! Please DT, please don't have TDO rolled! I promise I'll shut up and let you continually lie, and destroy every thread you post in. I'll even let you continually condemn The Avengers and castigate everyone that disagrees with you or has their own opinion. Let me point something out to you about your threats, TDO is not scared of a war! I'd be real careful if I was you, it might be you and/or misfits that get rolled instead of TDO. Your a real POS! You and Das don't need to let them get the best of you, honestly this is exactly what DT wants. She is nothing more than a pathetic lying POS and giving in to her rants means she wins! I hope you rethink this and the same goes for you Das, this game is not better off with out you guys! I could go on, but the main point is you need to keep that ferocity that made you guys #1 going. Tit for tat, fire with fire I always say ;) I feel and understand everything your saying here Ez. I think you guys coming back next round and give a littleof what your getting now back to the same people who think it's funny or that's it's ok, might be that proverbial "Fight fire with fire" medicine they need. Then let's see if they still feel it's fair and condone dirty ops! I think you missed it there CB, NM was the one who got raided first, they in turn had 3 nations counter the raid....The problem is they countered the wrong nation. From there it just escalated. The bad part is when RE was threatened to be ZI'd. Obviously the bad move on NM part, and not with in TE standards, but now a days it seems TE standards don't apply. Or does it only apply to certain alliances? Yeah I guess what I'm saying is there seems to be double standards going on now a days in TE. Sad really, because the very same person that I gave props to for posting about new alliances sovereignty and adhering to standards implied in TE has also completely done a 360. I'm by no means trying to bash you here, I think you have seen enough post from me to know when I'm doing that. I just don't understand how you can say one thing, then act another way. I don't condone NM actions, they needed some teaching but this war will result in the loss of many of those nation.I also give the leader respect for manning up and giving an apoloigy! TE has definitely changed since I left, a lot of veteran people have quite and the numbers are not even a quarter of what they were when I left. At this rate I give it another year and TE will no longer exist! Is this what everyone wants? What are you going to do when everyone's so called enemies quit, war each other? Piss off each other because one or the other feels the war was unfair. Trust me someone is going to feel the war was unfair rather it was or wasn't. It's a game, that's all this is, so is it worth causing people to quit. Can everyone see where I'm going with this? BG

There's my princess, glad to see you could grace us with your righteous words! Yes, yes you are responsible! Except you were not able to get your buddy/multi into my alliance! But I know how badly you wanted to pull it off just to sit there and flip things onto us. You just couldn't handle it anymore as the wait was killing you, so you just spied as a pending member hoping that might get by. It didn't work! What are you talking about? There is no contradiction in my thoughts of this war or in any of my post about this war. I've ment everything I've said and said it exactly in the order and how I wanted to say it. But I'm glad you've taken interest in my thoughts and post about it though....I knew you were lying about not reading my post :) oh and I'd be careful who you call dumb for following me, your biting off more than you can chew there ;) besides don't be jello us that you can't get anyone to follow you :P Paranoid, lol! That did make me chuckle. But I don't blame you for everyone's misfourtune, for instance I didn't blame you for NM inability to build, that you graciously pointed out yet still seem to allude the fact that this war is not much more than a witch hunt for TA. I only blame you for your pathetic despicable actions which include dirty spy ops, alliance spying, nation planting, and lying! That's just it DT, you have never posted any spy ops against Fata1 or TPC, nothing but you saying it happened. That's odd because your the very first person to post everyone else's business, messages and what not. So where is this proof? At the very least you could post where they told you they were spied, if that even really happened! Also your right none have posted to deny it, but at the same time if they are even reading these post, they also see I call BS on you and aren't backing you either. Your always saying show proof or STFU, well now I'm calling you out on the same thing! Avengers are not the only alliance that see IRS ops as dirty, there are several others as well....TDO, TPC, NDO, RE and so on! There have been many people posting in various post from each of those alliances and more that agree. Here you go, just more proof that YOU are behind TA's dirty spy ops! The more you open your mouth the more you put your foot in it ;) Your turn baby girl BG

Yeah I know, and so was I :) I just started typing and thought this would be the perfect time to recap and point out that there was never any proof behind anyone else getting spied. I suspect that the reason is it never happened, just more fabrication from DT. I also wanted to point out this petty act by DT of trying to get someone into TDO was pathetic to say the least, the second we saw it posted we knew who was behind it. Obviously we don't have the tools that admin does to to prove this, as if the IP address was even in the same state as DT's I'd have her war slots full till end round. Just the same she is not fooling anyone. BG

Sure! Wait what? How do you know there was 5 alliances spied? I thought TA got spied from one of your "approved members" Then TA spied back.....I did see that DT said Fata1 got spied but as of yet have seen no proof, (like you and everyone else has posted) and also DT said TPC got spied, again no proof. I'm thinking DT might have falsified information. Now to the point on hand, DT or someone for DT made a nation and tried to plant them into our alliance for the purpose of spying. After gathering info, this planted nation was to spy one of the avengers in an attempt to discredit TDO. Why? Because DT knows I'm right about her and this is an attempt to throw the truth off, but mostly just to have BS to say about, that a nation in TDO doing the same thing that a nation in Misfits did. What DT didn't take into account is that 95% of our members are all known in some way by one person or the other, or a combination of multiple people. Also that we just don't approve everyone that applies to our alliance. I don't hear any complaining, he is just stating the facts....There is a difference! Yeah, you got that right "a war between vets (TA vs D1 and WD) and newbies (NM vs D1, WD and everyone else they raided like RE, Fist, and NLoN). Sure the numbers and stats line up, but everyone knows NM is full of noobs, probably 90% and the war scenes back that up. NM is taking a beating, and is hardly doing any damage at all. This is more less a huge raid on them, and the majority of D1 and WD elite players are focusing on TA. So this may not exactly be a down declare, but it definitely is a focused attempt to hurt TA. Look at the stats prior to war, WD by them selves were a good match for TA, and the same goes for D1. Truth is neither alliance could take on TA by them selves with out being beat down, EVERYONE knows this! Thus the throwing in NM to make it look good. I don't see anyone in TA complaining, the closes thing you can say is that SG is exposing the truth. If the shoes were reversed, you can damn well bet you and several others would be on here screaming and crying about how terrible TA are and everything else. Yet another thing everyone knows! I also don't see SG going around blaming everyone, matter of fact I distinctly ready that he and TA know who is behind it. It's pretty much a fact that all veteran alliances know WAR prior to DAY 10 is not condoned, I recall a few alliances getting beat down last round because of it. The sad thing is, this has probably just opened Pandora's box. I know this, if I were TA I would attack the same alliances on the same day I was attacked for many rounds to come. TDO believes that alliances should have the ability to build properly with a minimum of 12 days prior to war, and we also believe a minimal of 10 days rebuilding after each war. Everyone talks about getting numbers back up, and allowing the sovereignty of new alliances, well what do you think is going to happen to NM after this war, I'll bet they loose upwards of 20 nations or more due to people just plain quitting. Has anyone noticed that numbers are even down from last round? BG

True that normally and had any other alliances attacked TA, well this wouldn't even be an issue. However the open threats that DT proclaimed last round, was not her being her usual pretentious self. There is much more to this, and this has been plotted since at least day 1. I have a bit more insight than most and there is definitely a collaboration going on. I know you like DT, and honestly there's nothing wrong with that. I can even relate to you standing by her. But the truth is what it is, and that is she has something to do with it......

I think EZ, for the most part summed it up for me and for the lack of typing out exactly how I feel, it's close enough :) I will say that what you implied as acceptable is contrary to actual morality for the majority of people that play. Sure there are people that will circumvent the rules of the game, but they are marginal at best. BG

No, your not to blame....your just a conspirator, an instrumental precursor in a methodical plot to take out TA early on. Your turn BG

Enough people are reading it and messaging me anyway, so YOU don't have to. Even though that's probably just another lie! The guilt is written all over your face/words.....And wow, what a huge coincidence, TA has dirty spy ops and then gets attacked! Trust me you don't have to say a word, truth is there is nothing you could say, the evidence just keeps piling up and more and more people are pointing fingers at you. Personally, why hide behind lies, you have already stated you condone dirty ops? About the only truthful statement you've made in this thread is the spying early needs fixed. Your turn BG