Sardonic found out later that day there was more to the story of why we washed our hands of that arrangement, and it had little to nothing to do with Avalon, 4 wars, or nukes (you can look back to the thread if your curious, I think I pretty much gave a clear illusion there). It was cleaned up though, so sorry for the lack of dirty laundry.
Source: Progression of Terms
I love primary documents.
Whether you were ~already~ going to make a separate peace with Avalon before you decided nukes in a war you declared were escalation, you threatened to derail a month's worth of peace negotiations when Avalon fought back against your giggling, bandwagoning tails.
[20:18:15] <Impero[VE]> hey you around by any chance?
[20:24:29] <xoin> I am
[20:25:15] <Impero[VE]> wonderful
[20:25:21] <Impero[VE]> are you avalon gov by any chance?
[20:25:30] <xoin> that to
[20:25:48] <xoin> Deputy Minister of Foreign Affairs
[20:25:48] <Impero[VE]> great
[20:26:24] <Impero[VE]> just wanted to let you guys know that we will not be partaking in the agreement you worked out with MK et all
[20:26:46] <Impero[VE]> and will be working out a seperate peace with you guys ourselves
[20:27:05] <xoin> alright
[20:28:09] <xoin> will throw that into the group
[20:29:26] <xoin> anything else I could help you with?
[20:29:32] <Impero[VE]> im not sure why you guys thought it was a good idea, once the agreement to 21 days then white peace was in place with MK, to come out of pm for the first time all war and hit a bunch of our nations who have been rebuilding :x
[20:30:03] <Impero[VE]> to be honest i expected better since warriorconcept thinks so highly of you all
[20:30:21] <Impero[VE]> but yea, ill get in touch with you all once we figure out what we are looking for
[20:30:55] <xoin> sure
[23:42:29] <Goldie[VE]> are you around?
[23:42:38] <xoin> yes
[23:43:44] <Goldie[VE]> ok, i believe a mutual white peace can be reached before we escalate this even further. with the agreement nearly in place between DH and NPO our front becomes unnecessary
[23:43:59] <Goldie[VE]> i would of course need the approval of impero, lord of VE before we can officially agree on anything
[23:44:32] <Goldie[VE]> but i think it would be a good idea, if you are agreeable to such a proposition, that we cease fire between each other and allow the process of peace to commence
[23:44:42] <xoin> would recommend to talk to our MoFA about that http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=173199
[23:45:33] <Goldie[VE]> does he come on IRC?
[23:45:44] <xoin> rarely
[23:47:11] <Goldie[VE]> can you get a hold of him? i dont believe we can go ahead with a cease fire, and any possibility of a white peace will most likely end if you escalate this front further than was done last night, by firing nukes after update tonight
[23:47:46] <xoin> will see if I can contact him
[23:47:47] <Goldie[VE]> so time is therefore somewhat of the essence
[23:47:55] <Goldie[VE]> if he can come on irc it would be best
[23:48:23] <Goldie[VE]> in light of that, if you can communicate this offer to him, and have him then contact his members and tell them to stand down it would be the way to contain this
[23:48:28] <Goldie[VE]> and i can do the same with our members
[23:49:06] <Goldie[VE]> if you can just tell the nations not to fire their nukes or do other attacks until VE has a chance to talk to your MoFA
[23:49:11] <Goldie[VE]> it would help the process
[23:49:20] <Goldie[VE]> and i can do the same with VE's engaged nations
[23:49:56] <xoin> will try to drag him to IRC ASAP
[23:49:59] <Goldie[VE]> the wars that were declared last night go nuclear tonight after update, and i believe once those nukes get fired that it will singify the end of our willing to grant a white peace
[23:50:51] <Goldie[VE]> to confirm, this is your nation, right? http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=175163
[23:50:55] <Goldie[VE]> in case i cant find you on irc
[23:51:13] <xoin> yes thats mine
[00:31:03] <Goldie[VE]> any luck?
[00:31:32] <xoin> nope so lets hope he checks his email today
[00:31:42] <xoin> pretty sure he will
[00:31:59] <Goldie[VE]> for the sake of making this easy, can you have your nations engaged with us not launch their nukes tonight
[00:32:02] <Goldie[VE]> and we can do the same
[00:32:10] <Goldie[VE]> if we cant find an agreement, they can fire them tomorrow
[00:32:21] <Goldie[VE]> but in good faith, lets order a limited cease fire
[00:33:34] <xoin> would love to do it but I'm not allowed to
[00:34:22] <Goldie[VE]> well im going out in about 30 mins, and i dont know if impero will be around, so i dont getthe message out before then, its not going to happen
[00:34:47] <Goldie[VE]> and if our guys get nuked tonight we're not going to exit the war with a white peace agreement
[00:35:08] <Goldie[VE]> the possibility of reps, and the necessity for something more tangible than a simple white peace appears
[00:46:25] <Goldie[VE]> i have told our guys to hold off and wait for our word, i suggest you do the same so that we can avoid weeks, maybe months of war and potentially messy negotiations after