HHAYD Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Triyun' timestamp='1295199053' post='2577269'] I have a perhaps odd concern, but it seems to me if something on this order of magnitude was done, in a way that could intercept a large volume of missiles, wouldn't the rounds fired from the AA shells when gravity kicks in cause quite a bit of damage in and of itself [/quote] As long as the autocannons aren't shooting close or directly vertically, they should be fine. If that can't be avoided, then shells filled with buck shots would minimize the damage if they fall back onto the autocannons as long as the autocannons are armored. Edited January 16, 2011 by HHAYD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzydog Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 As far as I know, lolnuking is allowed but you cannot replenish nukes? If so could I have 3 rolls for a lolnuking against Pravus? Two for New York and one for Washington D.C, all three coming from three different rogue submarines. Should be great fun whether they are shot down or not. :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 [quote name='Fizzydog' timestamp='1295206388' post='2577445'] As far as I know, lolnuking is allowed but you cannot replenish nukes? If so could I have 3 rolls for a lolnuking against Pravus? Two for New York and one for Washington D.C, all three coming from three different rogue submarines. Should be great fun whether they are shot down or not. :3 [/quote] I think the unwritten rule is that you need a nation to nuke in the first place, when you dropped Labrador you also dropped everything it owned, especially considering you did not specify there was a group of submarines that were independent from the state. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AironthFlamewing Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Why then did he create a series of nuke laden subs in a separate RP ready for this course of action Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 Could you link me to said rp? If you can I'll drop my case and I'll apologize to fizzy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AironthFlamewing Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97142&st=0&p=2576345&#entry2576345 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 [quote name='graniteknight' timestamp='1295213669' post='2577676'] http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97142&st=0&p=2576345&#entry2576345 [/quote] In that case I'm sorry Fizzy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzydog Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97142 Also, in my thread where I state Labrador collapses, the mayor of St. John's plainly states that government has fled Labrador. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted January 16, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 I'd like to see prior RP to the motivations behind their actions. At least Ty had a long, well-written RP about it. This is nothing but OOC nonsense unless otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzydog Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97165 Well, my government asked UKIM to take over Labrador but Pravus Ingrou stuck his nose where it didn't belong. My government doesn't like that. Past government that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lestari Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 [quote name='Fizzydog' timestamp='1295221649' post='2577839'] http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=97165 Well, my government asked UKIM to take over Labrador but Pravus Ingrou stuck his nose where it didn't belong. My government doesn't like that. Past government that is. [/quote] It's IC. And since it does not violate any CNRP laws, it will have to be dealt with IC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzydog Posted January 16, 2011 Report Share Posted January 16, 2011 [quote name='dotCom' timestamp='1295221783' post='2577840'] It's IC. And since it does not violate any CNRP laws, it will have to be dealt with IC. [/quote] Well, obviously. I am dealing with it IC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 The actions of the rogues were yesterday. You cannot give someone motivations for an OOC action after the fact, that's metagaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoot Zoot Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 You asked for an OOC explanation, he gave it. He has not written the post yet for the attack, he asked for the rolls first. If it hasn't happened ICly how can it be metagaming by giving you the explanation for an action he will be performing later? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzydog Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 What was the OoC action? I am, ICly, attacking Pravus with nuclear weapons after he, ICly, took control of a territory that my government, ICly, asked UKIM to take control of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McBride Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 With nuclear actions, the attack needs to be written before the rolls are given. Otherwise, he can just fail and then not have to RP out the launching because he would have failed. So I, as the one being attacked, would at least like to see the attack RP'd out first. Also, I still need my two rolls for hacking into his intranet, which would prevent him from launching the nukes in the first place. Let's not put the wagon before the horse here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzydog Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 So, my nation collapsed and you moved troops into my country yet you're stil hacking the intranet? Alright then.... And okay, I would've launched the nuclear weapons of they failed anyway, but I'll do the attacking first. Fine by me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McBride Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 The intranet attack would have come before your nation collapsed, and would have continued to ensure that no nuclear weapons would have been launched. Because your government was obviously unstable with no regard for human life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzydog Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 Alright, but how does this effect submarines? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AironthFlamewing Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 OOC: Pravus just back off alright, stop harassing the kid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 [quote name='Pravus Ingruo' timestamp='1295226881' post='2577937'] The intranet attack would have come before your nation collapsed, and would have continued to ensure that no nuclear weapons would have been launched. Because your government was obviously unstable with no regard for human life. [/quote] You can't hijack submarines by hacking through the internet unless if the submarines' crew were stupid enough to try to have an internet connection and you somehow found the correct IP addresses out of the 3+ billion IP combinations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoot Zoot Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) How can you hack an intranet? An intranet has no outside connection to the Internet. Meaning you need men on the ground to manually access his computer panels. Which I believe would need a spy roll to find his nuclear base, and a roll to get the intranet password, then rolls to disable ground based nukes. Sub based missiles are not launched from land based command centres but from the subs. So by my logic you can't even stop the nukes at sea. Edited January 17, 2011 by Zoot Zoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted January 17, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Fizzydog' timestamp='1295225178' post='2577906'] What was the OoC action? I am, ICly, attacking Pravus with nuclear weapons after he, ICly, took control of a territory that my government, ICly, asked UKIM to take control of. [/quote] Incorrect. This is an OOC action. Your government doesn't exist, and a [b]rogue[/b] submarine means that, even if it did, it was not associated with the government in the first place. Further, you stated yourself that this is a "lolnuking", and then [b]later[/b] gave an IC explanation for it. Edited January 17, 2011 by Sargun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 [quote name='Pravus Ingruo' timestamp='1295226881' post='2577937'] The intranet attack would have come before your nation collapsed, and would have continued to ensure that no nuclear weapons would have been launched. Because your government was obviously unstable with no regard for human life. [/quote] Pravus, slbm's are launched by their commanders, not a central authority. If the commanders have the codes your attacks wont do anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael McBride Posted January 17, 2011 Report Share Posted January 17, 2011 [quote name='Fizzydog' timestamp='1295227079' post='2577943'] Alright, but how does this effect submarines? Just curious. [/quote] The second roll (if the hacking in is successful) is to shut down your ability to be able to launch nukes. A lot of that stuff is computerized now anyways, so if I got in, I could shut it down. That, again, is pursuant to both rolls being successful, however. [quote name='graniteknight' timestamp='1295227107' post='2577945'] OOC: Pravus just back off alright, stop harassing the kid [/quote] I'm not harassing him. I am explaining the timeline of events that have to take place, in order. That's not harassing. That's making sure things are done correctly. Maybe you should stop being butthurt because I played something consistently ICly and you didn't get your own way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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