Sanctions as a Weapon

[Sephiroth]

[quote name='nippy' date='16 April 2010 - 01:18 AM' timestamp='1271395074' post='2262331']
You went rogue the moment you aided someone we were at war with.
[/quote]
You didn't say you recognized that, wouldn't consider it war, etc. Peace had already been settled in that matter by nobody declaring at the time and you guys saying you didn't think we were at war. Then several days later when I'm down a few thousand infra I get 2 GOONS declare on me and convince Umbrella to sanction me, as I know a fair fight isn't something GOONS can win ever.

[nippy]

[quote name='Methrage' date='16 April 2010 - 07:20 AM' timestamp='1271395195' post='2262337']
You didn't say you recognized that, wouldn't consider it war, etc. Peace had already been settled in that matter by nobody declaring at the time and you guys saying you didn't think we were at war. Then several days later when I'm down a few thousand infra I get 2 GOONS declare on me and convince Umbrella to sanction me, as I know a fair fight isn't something GOONS can win ever.
[/quote]

You're an expert at spewing the untrue. We never said 'we don't consider it an act of war'...in fact, you yourself claimed that it was an act of war and that 'you consider your alliance and GOONS to be in a state of war' after we continued to attack that nation that ran off to your AA without surrendering to us. You're not going to be able to weasel your way out of this one, duder.

Edited April 16, 2010 by nippy

[Sephiroth]

[quote name='Gerald Meane' date='16 April 2010 - 01:19 AM' timestamp='1271395171' post='2262334']
Best enjoy them then because as of now your infra level makes them your last.
[/quote]
Its still possible I could get more, doesn't take that much aid to rebuild to 1k infra. When fighting Fark I rebuilt from under 1k several times to get more nukes and I didn't have much of a warchest then either.

[Rebel Virginia]

[quote name='Methrage' date='16 April 2010 - 12:45 AM' timestamp='1271393125' post='2262257']
Another request from GOONS or was this one done with your own free will? Either way brown barely has any trades anyways and your not making it look like an attractive place. If another brown senator would remove that it would be appreciated.
[/quote]
[color="#0000FF"]This wouldn't be the first time GATO has sanctioned nations without finding out the whole story. This an alliance war. Not a rogue action. Also, GOONS was the aggressor here.[/color]

[janax]

[quote name='nippy' date='16 April 2010 - 12:14 AM' timestamp='1271394844' post='2262320']
LOL....yeah, BabyJesus is an absolute nobody in MK.
[/quote]

I'm well aware of who he is. I was utilizing what some of us call sarcasm.
You see one of the roots of the MK-TOP fued was the things people posted back and forth. At a few points in the conversations post war declaration, it was mentioned that if Archon didn't say it, it didn't count.

I was being humorous. Now that I have to explain it, it sucks worse than it did then. Thanks for ruining it.

[Louisa]

[img]http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r7/Louisa00/emot-love.gif[/img]

[quote name='nippy' date='16 April 2010 - 06:09 AM' timestamp='1271394568' post='2262304']
My love! How are you?
[/quote]
nippeh...! I have been remarkably excellent, hoping the same for you over in your Bierstube [img]http://i140.photobucket.com/albums/r7/Louisa00/amigoaawesome.png[/img]

[quote name='Umar ibn Abd al-Aziz' date='16 April 2010 - 06:11 AM' timestamp='1271394680' post='2262311']
Come back home, Lou. You know where you belong
[/quote]
I have not received a single recruitment message from you and am now very cross with you all. ODN and a bunch of others sent me two (2) despite my colour, but you? 0...

When my communications network clears up (as in OOC:passwordtroubles:OOC) I think it is not impossible we will see more of each other. Not that I would ever discuss these sensitive matters in public, oh no, never me.


PS Methrage send me 50 Technology and I will ship some money your way OK?

[Gerald Meanĕ]

[quote name='Methrage' date='16 April 2010 - 06:22 AM' timestamp='1271395350' post='2262343']
Its still possible I could get more, doesn't take that much aid to rebuild to 1k infra. When fighting Fark I rebuilt from under 1k several times to get more nukes and I didn't have much of a warchest then either.
[/quote]

Well then it should be interesting to see who aids you secret or not.

[nippy]

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='16 April 2010 - 07:23 AM' timestamp='1271395401' post='2262344']
[color="#0000FF"]This wouldn't be the first time GATO has sanctioned nations without finding out the whole story. This an alliance war. Not a rogue action. Also, GOONS was the aggressor here.[/color]
[/quote]

[color=blue]This is untrue. You will regret this.[/color]

[Sephiroth]

[quote name='nippy' date='16 April 2010 - 01:22 AM' timestamp='1271395350' post='2262342']
You're an expert at spewing the untrue. We never said 'we don't consider it an act of war'...in fact, you yourself claimed that it was an act of war and that 'you consider your alliance and GOONS to be in a state of war' after we continued to attack that nation that ran off to your AA without surrendering to us. You're not going to be able to weasel your way out of this one, duder.
[/quote]
I said I did consider it was if you kept attacking my member, but since you guys reported him for words getting him deleted I was told we were not at war. Now we obviously are at war as two of you have declared, although Umbrella didn't need to get involved using sanctions.

[Smacky]

I agree, black is a terrible color. Possibly only rivaled in terribleness by brown.

[Xavii]

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='16 April 2010 - 06:23 AM' timestamp='1271395401' post='2262344']
[color="#0000FF"]This wouldn't be the first time GATO has sanctioned nations without finding out the whole story. This an alliance war. Not a rogue action. Also, GOONS was the aggressor here.[/color]
[/quote]
Wait so if I start a 1 man AA, "declare war" I'm safe from sanctions?

[Sephiroth]

[quote name='Xavii' date='16 April 2010 - 01:27 AM' timestamp='1271395626' post='2262356']
Wait so if I start a 1 man AA, "declare war" I'm safe from sanctions?
[/quote]
I never declared from a 1 man AA.

[Sardonic]

[quote name='Methrage' date='16 April 2010 - 12:17 AM' timestamp='1271395054' post='2262329']
You can post them if you want, I haven't been keeping up with nuking you enough since I have others I'd rather use them on. I have 2 nukes, but I'm saving them both for nippy.
[/quote]
You pull that trigger and we will be well compensated. You have accomplished nothing.
EDIT:
[quote name='nippy' date='16 April 2010 - 12:09 AM' timestamp='1271394568' post='2262304']
My love! How are you?
[/quote]
Back off grandpa, she's mine!

Edited April 16, 2010 by Sardonic

[Vesalius]

[quote name='Methrage' date='16 April 2010 - 12:16 AM' timestamp='1271394960' post='2262324']
I'm not roguing them and I had less support in my war with GOONS until after they sanctioned me, now most feel they deserve whatever I do to them.
[/quote]
I have a feeling that most of those who have expressed that sentiment would have felt the same regardless of your roguery.

Edited April 16, 2010 by Vesalius

[Rebel Virginia]

[quote name='Xavii' date='16 April 2010 - 01:27 AM' timestamp='1271395626' post='2262356']
Wait so if I start a 1 man AA, "declare war" I'm safe from sanctions?
[/quote]
[color="#0000FF"]The Citadel is a recognized alliance. Also, GOONS started the war. He fought back. This is a tech raid. Raiders are cowards and whine when the target fights back. So their coward friends (that's you, Umbrella) help them. If you can't handle the consequences don't raid.[/color]

[Sephiroth]

[quote name='Sardonic' date='16 April 2010 - 01:28 AM' timestamp='1271395698' post='2262359']
You pull that trigger and we will be well compensated. You have accomplished nothing.
[/quote]
After you attack me, get me sanctioned, you're now trying to convince me not to fight back. lol

[palaceofhate]

You.. You !@#$%^&*.. You blew it up! My carefully constructed trade circle! [IMG]http://i44.tinypic.com/9t0n6f.png[/IMG]


P.s. My uranium!

[nippy]

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='16 April 2010 - 07:29 AM' timestamp='1271395732' post='2262361']
[color="#0000FF"]The Citadel is a recognized alliance. Also, GOONS started the war. He fought back. This is a tech raid. Raiders are cowards and whine when the target fights back. So their coward friends (that's you, Umbrella) help them. If you can't handle the consequences don't raid.[/color]
[/quote]

Ah, RV....as ill-informed as always. Keep fighting the good fight, sir.

[Rebel Virginia]

[quote name='nippy' date='16 April 2010 - 01:25 AM' timestamp='1271395526' post='2262351']
[color=blue]This is untrue. You will regret this.[/color]
[/quote]
[color="#0000FF"]FAIL once declared war on CoJ. We had a valid CB and we were an alliance. It was a war between micro-alliances. GATO sanctioned fail as a "rogue action." It took some explaining before they realized they had no business interfering in alliance matters that did not affect them.[/color]

[palaceofhate]

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='15 April 2010 - 11:31 PM' timestamp='1271395864' post='2262366']
[color="#0000FF"]FAIL once declared war on CoJ. We had a valid CB and we were an alliance. It was a war between micro-alliances. GATO sanctioned fail as a "rogue action." It took some explaining before they realized they had no business interfering in alliance matters that did not affect them.[/color]
[/quote]
[color="#0000FF"]A point well made.[/color]

[Louisa]

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='16 April 2010 - 06:29 AM' timestamp='1271395732' post='2262361']
[color="#0000FF"]Also, GOONS started the war.[/color]
[/quote]
I am pretty sure that Methrage started the war when he took in a country at war with GOONS, declared that he "recognised a state a war", aided enemies of GOONS, etc.

That the trouble country was smote from On High, and the aiding/war links with it, can hardly make the recognised war just go away magically.

[nippy]

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='16 April 2010 - 07:31 AM' timestamp='1271395864' post='2262366']
[color="#0000FF"]FAIL once declared war on CoJ. We had a valid CB and we were an alliance. It was a war between micro-alliances. GATO sanctioned fail as a "rogue action." It took some explaining before they realized they had no business interfering in alliance matters that did not affect them.[/color]
[/quote]

What does this have to do with anything? Methrage stepped into a war between GOONS and CSA and started harboring and aiding people we were at war with. I didn't attack him without a reason.

[Rebel Virginia]

[quote name='nippy' date='16 April 2010 - 01:31 AM' timestamp='1271395855' post='2262365']
Ah, RV....as ill-informed as always. Keep fighting the good fight, sir.
[/quote]
[color="#0000FF"]GOONS attacked first. GOONS started it. I'm sorry, but you're not weaseling your way out of this one sweetheart.[/color]

[nippy]

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='16 April 2010 - 07:33 AM' timestamp='1271395996' post='2262373']
[color="#0000FF"]GOONS attacked first. GOONS started it. I'm sorry, but you're not weaseling your way out of this one sweetheart.[/color]
[/quote]

Feel free to read the entire GOONS declaration on CSA thread found in the Alliance Announcements portion of this forum. After doing so, feel free to take another swig off your J.D. and post again. I love it when you post.

[palaceofhate]

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='15 April 2010 - 11:33 PM' timestamp='1271395996' post='2262373']
[color="#0000FF"]GOONS attacked first. GOONS started it. I'm sorry, but you're not weaseling your way out of this one sweetheart.[/color]
[/quote]
I hate those guys!!!