Arieg Posted March 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Please don't do anymore local geographies, I'm working on a map for that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergerberger II Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 [quote name='Arieg' date='03 March 2010 - 11:02 PM' timestamp='1267675571' post='2213314'] Please don't do anymore local geographies, I'm working on a map for that. [/quote] Can you at least include mine? I [i]really[/i] want a nation with a lot of highlands mixed with plains. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arieg Posted March 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Its kinda difficult to have highlands running up to the coast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mergerberger II Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 [quote name='Arieg' date='03 March 2010 - 11:07 PM' timestamp='1267675841' post='2213318'] Its kinda difficult to have highlands running up to the coast. [/quote] It's just a general highland region. For example, most of the North of Scotland is referred to as the highlands, despite this term including the coast as well. There are rolling hills in these areas, large ones, with lots of forests and interesting geography, and fjords and whatnot along the coast. It is entirely possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arieg Posted March 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p3/marines6103004085/maps/AECNbasewborderCN4-1.png map as of now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzydog Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Eww, I like the white back round better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 please change the Nation of Nod to the Nodic Kingdom please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoot Zoot Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 I think Mudds idea is good, also Sargun/Arieg UK has pretty much the same geography as mainland great britain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arieg Posted March 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 (edited) Nuclear 9/11? Also I'm working on a resource allocation system for your military based around your GNP (after the cost of living which will be a percentage based on population) which will be based on your population. Edited March 4, 2010 by Arieg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arieg Posted March 4, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 (edited) Double post, in light of issues surrounding people's assumptions for military strength I've made a tier system based on world status. There will be a maximum of 3 superpowers, myself, Sargun, and Elrich von Richt. Then there will be 4 major powers, with the remander at the RP'ers preference. Pick and Choose I do not want to see the stats ALL maxed out. [u]Superpower[/u] PERSONNEL Active Military Personnel: 1.5 to 2.5 million Active Military Reserve: 1 to 2 million Active Paramilitary Units: 350,000 to 450,000 ARMY Tanks: 8,000 to 20,000 tanks Armored Personnel Carriers: 7,000 to 12,000 Towed Artillery: 8,000 to 10,000 Self-Propelled Guns: 1,300 to 1,800 Multiple Rocket Launch Systems: 800 to 1,500 Anti-Aircraft Systems: 3,000 to 4,000 NAVY Aircraft Carriers: 5 to 12 Destroyers: 60 to 75 Submarines: 50 to 80 Frigates: 70 to 90 Patrol & Coastal Craft: 120 Mine Warfare Craft: 25 Amphibious Craft: 25 to 40 AIR FORCE Total Aircraft: 8,000 to 12,000 Helicopters: 3,000 to 4,000 [u]Major Power[/u] PERSONNEL Active Military Personnel: 750,000 to 850,000 Active Military Reserve: 550,000 to 750,000 Active Paramilitary Units: 350,000 to 450,000 ARMY Tanks: 5,000 to 7,000 tanks Armored Personnel Carriers: 5,000 to 6,000 Towed Artillery: 5,000 to 7,000 Self-Propelled Guns: 800 to 1,200 Multiple Rocket Launch Systems: 600 to 750 Anti-Aircraft Systems: 2,000 to 2,500 NAVY Aircraft Carriers: 2 to 3 Destroyers: 50 to 55 Submarines: 40 to 45 Frigates: 50 to 60 Patrol & Coastal Craft: 120 Mine Warfare Craft: 25 Amphibious Craft: 15 to 20 AIR FORCE Total Aircraft: 6,000 to 7,000 Helicopters: 2,000 to 2,500 [u]Regional Power[/u] PERSONNEL Active Military Personnel: 450,000 to 650,000 Active Military Reserve: 350,000 to 450,000 Active Paramilitary Units: 250,000 to 350,000 ARMY Tanks: 3,000 to 4,000 tanks Armored Personnel Carriers: 2,000 to 4,000 Towed Artillery: 2,000 to 4,000 Self-Propelled Guns: 600 to 700 Multiple Rocket Launch Systems: 400 to 500 Anti-Aircraft Systems: 1,000 to 1,500 NAVY Aircraft Carriers: 1 to 2 Destroyers: 35 to 40 Submarines: 20 to 30 Frigates: 30 to 40 Patrol & Coastal Craft: 120 Mine Warfare Craft: 25 Amphibious Craft: 10 to 13 AIR FORCE Total Aircraft: 3,000 to 5,000 Helicopters: 1,000 to 1,500 [u]Local Power[/u] PERSONNEL Active Military Personnel: 250,000 to 350,000 Active Military Reserve: 150,000 to 250,000 Active Paramilitary Units: 100,000 to 150,000 ARMY Tanks: 1,000 to 2,000 tanks Armored Personnel Carriers: 1,000 to 1,500 Towed Artillery: 1,000 to 1,500 Self-Propelled Guns: 400 to 500 Multiple Rocket Launch Systems: 200 to 300 Anti-Aircraft Systems: 1,000 to 1,500 NAVY Aircraft Carriers: 1 Destroyers: 25 to 30 Submarines: 10 to 15 Frigates: 20 to 25 Patrol & Coastal Craft: 120 Mine Warfare Craft: 25 Amphibious Craft: 5 to 8 AIR FORCE Total Aircraft: 2,000 to 2,500 Helicopters: 500 to 800 Please adjust your military accordingly. Thank you and have a nice day. Edited March 4, 2010 by Arieg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 http://i.imagehost.org/view/0667/AECNworldmap8 Bam~! Also, three superpowers on only two of the four continents? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzydog Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 So you just told me that I have to redo my entire thread because no one told me I couldn't be a superpower? At least say no or yes when I ask, not just a sudden, 'Oh, me and two other guys are superpowers. Thats it." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoot Zoot Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Fizzy, just deal with it mate. if your a superpower, your an auto target. Thats why I restrained to regional power, as much as i want to lord it over everyone for once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 [quote name='Arieg' date='04 March 2010 - 04:39 PM' timestamp='1267738999' post='2214020'] Please adjust your military accordingly. Thank you and have a nice day. [/quote] Awesome. To be honest, I couldn't really decide on what my IC army would be like- I actually felt guilty jacking up my stats! Put me down for a Major power then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzydog Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Can I set myself as Major Power? I am not jumping down two levels, or god forbid down to a local power. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordosaur94 Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 I'd like to be one of those major powers, I have a good economy, a good sized population, and a lot of land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 [quote name='Arieg' date='04 March 2010 - 09:39 PM' timestamp='1267738999' post='2214020'] Double post, in light of issues surrounding people's assumptions for military strength I've made a tier system based on world status. There will be a maximum of 3 superpowers, myself, Sargun, and Elrich von Richt. Then there will be 4 major powers, with the remander at the RP'ers preference. [/quote] You've effectively limited the RP of major powers so that the creator, mapmaker, and a largely inactive RPer can be the Biggest and Baddest. My early RP ideas have been either stamped out or restricted as a result. My military will effectively be stretched thin over a large nation with a burgeoning population. The three superpowers, together, can have up to 7.5 million active soldiers, while the four major powers will only ever be able to reach 3.4 million, together. If a rare 1v1 conflict pops up between a superpower and a major power, not only will the major power, most likely, be technologically outclassed, but outnumbered anywhere from 2:1 to 3:1, no matter the population of either nation. The scale seems to be tipped ungodly in the favor of those three people. I, honestly, think status should be decided by RP quality and ability to actually post more than once in a blue moon. Sargun fulfills both of these traits, but I have no idea how Arieg RPs, and I know EVR enters periods of not posting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canaris Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 [quote name='Drakedeath' date='04 March 2010 - 06:21 PM' timestamp='1267745086' post='2214161'] You've effectively limited the RP of major powers so that the creator, mapmaker, and a largely inactive RPer can be the Biggest and Baddest. My early RP ideas have been either stamped out or restricted as a result. My military will effectively be stretched thin over a large nation with a burgeoning population. The three superpowers, together, can have up to 7.5 million active soldiers, while the four major powers will only ever be able to reach 3.4 million, together. If a rare 1v1 conflict pops up between a superpower and a major power, not only will the major power, most likely, be technologically outclassed, but outnumbered anywhere from 2:1 to 3:1, no matter the population of either nation. The scale seems to be tipped ungodly in the favor of those three people. I, honestly, think status should be decided by RP quality and ability to actually post more than once in a blue moon. Sargun fulfills both of these traits, but I have no idea how Arieg RPs, and I know EVR enters periods of not posting. [/quote] At the risk of sounding like a broken record: numbers alone confer no advantage in battle. You're also thinking too small. A superpower has to police it's own borders as well and will have more enemies than the major or regional powers (unless the government of said smaller powers do something incredibly stupid, like pull an Iraq, in which case they will be Iraq'd in turn). Everyone here has equal technology, to boot, so the advantage of having more machines and men is mitigated. Any nation which attacks another with overwhelming force is just asking to be invaded by someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 [quote name='Canaris' date='04 March 2010 - 11:25 PM' timestamp='1267745321' post='2214165'] At the risk of sounding like a broken record: numbers alone confer no advantage in battle. You're also thinking too small. A superpower has to police it's own borders as well and will have more enemies than the major or regional powers (unless the government of said smaller powers do something incredibly stupid, like pull an Iraq, in which case they will be Iraq'd in turn). Everyone here has equal technology, to boot, so the advantage of having more machines and men is mitigated. Any nation which attacks another with overwhelming force is just asking to be invaded by someone else. [/quote] Anything below a Major Power would be, to a superpower, beetles, unless they bum rush the Superpower with ten other nations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canaris Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 [quote name='Drakedeath' date='04 March 2010 - 06:27 PM' timestamp='1267745473' post='2214168'] Anything below a Major Power would be, to a superpower, beetles, unless they bum rush the Superpower with ten other nations. [/quote] That's largely untrue. Look at Afghanistan and Vietnam, for example. Superpowers were creamed by what were effectively micro powers. Korea is another good example. A superpower versus a regional power who played their cards right and had backup from a major power (China). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoot Zoot Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Ive been saying this pretty much all day, it restricts the freedom of imagination and creativity. Answer I got was "Im hiding with the ban hammer" Only rules i agree with are the nuke locks, but nothing more, however, the proside of the restriction rules means people dont go !@#$% crazy with massive armies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canaris Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 [quote name='Zoot Zoot' date='04 March 2010 - 06:32 PM' timestamp='1267745759' post='2214175'] Ive been saying this pretty much all day, it restricts the freedom of imagination and creativity.[/quote] So does basing your CNRP nation on your IC nation, yet you deal with that (I'm assuming). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zoot Zoot Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 Because that really doesnt. Ive not been there as long as the others, but its a working system, created by a number of people. Not a single guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loannes Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 [quote name='Canaris' date='04 March 2010 - 11:32 PM' timestamp='1267745754' post='2214174'] That's largely untrue. Look at Afghanistan and Vietnam, for example. Superpowers were creamed by what were effectively micro powers. Korea is another good example. A superpower versus a regional power who played their cards right and had backup from a major power (China). [/quote] Those examples weren't exactly 'creaming'. They survived. Afghanistan is currently an insurgent-filled, corruption-choked nation with a poor economy, with a coalition interfering. North Korea is currently internationally sanctioned. Only Vietnam has had success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted March 4, 2010 Report Share Posted March 4, 2010 (edited) If it helps, I plan on RPing a [b]cold war[/b] scenario and not a hot war. @drakedeath: vietnam has been far from succesfull Edited March 4, 2010 by Sargun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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