The AUT Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 [center][img]http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/Coven87/Carthageflagwarelephantwreath1wa-1.png[/img][/center] Recently Carthage, well myself in particular, wanted to discuss peace terms with the ODN. We were frustrated with our coalition however the war declarations came. However peace is still being offered and many are asking me if we are going to surrender so this is in response to those questions. For so long as I remembered when you started to see alliances surrendering you'd have this feeling of the end, at least I did. It signals that the war is about to conclude and some alliances tough it out for longer while some alliances pack it in and resume rebuilding. However I always hated and dreaded reading alliances surrender to the opposition, especially when we could do more damage. However that's not how Cyber Nations works and I was guilty of such an action recently. However this is to clarify our position in this war. We will fight until the war is clearly lost. There will be no early surrenders, we may always re-buy our infrastructure but we could never re-buy our honor and commitment. With this, Carthage hereby remains in the war and refuses to surrender until the war is lost completely. We thank the ODN for the generous terms of white peace, but we will reject them for now. I won't be doing what I've hated seeing all these years. And so yeah, [s]peace[/s] war. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxfire99 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 If you just don't announce anything, we'll assume you're not surrendering. Though I guess I shouldn't complain. I was warned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ninja Colt Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Alright then. Keep enjoying your fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sethb Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Ok... I guess the title says it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joracy Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Cool. When you want to talk about surrendering you know where to find me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blind Murder v2 Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Great choice AUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erich Ludendorff Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 (edited) At least you had the foresight to realize that this announcement is pointless. That counts for something(but not much). I would like to take this occasion to announce that my alliance does not have any treaties to declare, any milestones to publicize, nor any announcement to make at all. Just keeping you informed. Edited February 5, 2010 by Erich Ludendorff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Warrior Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Good luck AUT. Keep up the fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chairmanR Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Well this wasn't worth the click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weirdgus Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Announcement needed more tl;dr Good choice, AUT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 [color="#0000FF"]FAIL appreciates Carthage's continued commitment to freedom and justice. That said, I would like to state that FAIL will not be accepting ODN's terms of surrender either.[/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeeooh Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Here's hoping for eternal war with AUT. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gn0xious Jr Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 i've learned something, i've learned that you can start almost every sentence with "however." on a serious note, it is commendable to not surrender and fight it out. as others have said, if anyone chooses to, they know what to do (or should). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hizzy Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 Honestly, if you started with "a pointless announcement" why would you continue?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 [quote name='Jeeooh' date='05 February 2010 - 05:34 PM' timestamp='1265409252' post='2162181'] Here's hoping for eternal war with AUT. [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]I never knew that the Mushroom Kingdom condoned PZI. Thank you for enlightening me.[/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gn0xious Jr Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 [quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='05 February 2010 - 02:39 PM' timestamp='1265409573' post='2162190'] [color="#0000FF"]I never knew that the Mushroom Kingdom condoned PZI. Thank you for enlightening me.[/color] [/quote] It is commendable for one "side" to refuse surrender as an option, but not the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hizzy Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 [quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='06 February 2010 - 02:39 AM' timestamp='1265409573' post='2162190'] [color="#0000FF"]I never knew that the Mushroom Kingdom condoned PZI. Thank you for enlightening me.[/color] [/quote] you can have eternal war without necessarily being stuck at ZI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Virginia Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 [quote name='Gn0xious Jr' date='05 February 2010 - 05:44 PM' timestamp='1265409852' post='2162195'] It is commendable for one "side" to refuse surrender as an option, but not the other? [/quote] [color="#0000FF"]So, the NPO never actually PZIed people but simply refused to surrender to people like Doitzel, and Starfox, and Sponge, and myself? Glad you approve of their former practices. I can only say that I truly hope to see you putting them to use in this new world you are creating.[/color] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stumpy Jung Il Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 This is such a useless announcement. The moment you wrote the title you should have just decided against writing the rest tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arentak Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 But as long as we're here announcing things.. o/ ODN for seeking white peace o/ Carthage for manning up and saying "Not just yet" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 [quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='05 February 2010 - 05:39 PM' timestamp='1265409573' post='2162190'] [color="#0000FF"]I never knew that the Mushroom Kingdom condoned PZI. Thank you for enlightening me.[/color] [/quote] We also condone EZI, and any other forms of ZI. Why not? EZI J. Brookbank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEraser Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 We don't agree on much AUT but this is a solid decision. Also LOL at ODN trying to get alliances out of war, whats a matter? i thought your side enjoyed a 2-1 ns advantage? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques Cousteau Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 So, i have been thinking about writing up a nice announcement about how i plan to make announcement about how i'm not going to be surrendering. Should i post it now or later AUT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astronaut jones Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 [quote name='Gn0xious Jr' date='05 February 2010 - 10:44 PM' timestamp='1265409852' post='2162195'] It is commendable for one "side" to refuse surrender as an option, but not the other? [/quote] if the side that is refusing surrender is the side that clearly has the upperhand in the war, so as to be in a clear position of victory, then they are not to be commended. They are to be spit upon and condemned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gn0xious Jr Posted February 5, 2010 Report Share Posted February 5, 2010 [quote name='Rebel Virginia' date='05 February 2010 - 02:47 PM' timestamp='1265410026' post='2162200'] [color="#0000FF"]So, the NPO never actually PZIed people but simply refused to surrender to people like Doitzel, and Starfox, and Sponge, and myself? Glad you approve of their former practices. I can only say that I truly hope to see you putting them to use in this new world you are creating.[/color] [/quote] okay? never ceases to amaze me on how you can fabricate so much out of nothing... So, you condone Carthage's announcement that they will not surrender. You also state that FAIL will not surrender. By not surrendering, you are condoning extending the conflict. By never surrendering, you are condoning a path to eternal conflict, which is commendable. A nation from the opposite side declares that they will not surrender, so both "sides" have stated they will not surrender, and in essence are condoning a path to eternal conflict, and I condone PZI? I don't get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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