Lord Philip Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 I don't see how you can draw that conclusion with this language. As worded, especially with your stated intentions, this is a push poll, which can mean anything any of us wants it to. I agree, and having found someone on this thread to agree with I'm voting "Tom Jones" and leaving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned-You Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 Yes, if someone attempted to destroy the community I created I would destroy them no matter how long ago it was. If this makes me a monster, then I'll gladly take that title and live up to it. Then again, I've never attempted to be a saint thus I may freely act as a sinner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mojoe Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 What he said... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalabac Posted December 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 If I were Athens and friends I would wardec the MDP parters of TPF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned-You Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 If I were Athens and friends I would wardec the MDP parters of TPF. That isn't happening obviously, so why argue potential scenarios and semantics...it's a fruitless waste of time and rather annoying once every topic degenerates to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xR1 Fatal Instinct Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 the next person to make a stupid poll like this should be slapped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalabac Posted December 30, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 That isn't happening obviously, so why argue potential scenarios and semantics...it's a fruitless waste of time and rather annoying once every topic degenerates to that. feel free to not reply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurunin Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 i'm going to say yes, but attacked in the wrong way. i believe Athens was justified attacking TPF and ZH govt members, not the alliance as a whole. ...still makes me wonder though, how the hell ZH got off w/o any kind of repercussion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youwish959 Posted December 30, 2009 Report Share Posted December 30, 2009 If I were Athens and friends I would wardec the MDP parters of TPF. If you were Athens and friends you would get yourself killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supercoolyellow Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 The nieghs have it, what a shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Tolkien Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I approve this poll. It simplifies everything down to black and white, and ignores all the complex shades of gray in between. I hate gray. It's so dull and boring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentkiller Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 I approve this poll. It simplifies everything down to black and white, and ignores all the complex shades of gray in between. I hate gray. It's so dull and boring. There is a null vote for the gray you are talking about. How about you use that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OberstKrieger Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 i'm going to say yes, but attacked in the wrong way. i believe Athens was justified attacking TPF and ZH govt members, not the alliance as a whole....still makes me wonder though, how the hell ZH got off w/o any kind of repercussion? The alliance leaders represent the alliance. If they make a mistake, the alliance bears the burden. Conversely, if they do well, the alliance reaps the benefits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Tolkien Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 There is a null vote for the gray you are talking about. How about you use that? Nonsense. The poll question eliminates the gray in and of itself. I mean how dare they not conform to our black and white standards? How dare they? It's my way or the highway. Who cares if my way involves making a clearly biased and skewed poll, just to establish the black and the white? I mean either you perfectly agree with the way Athens has in some way handled the situation, in CB and everything else, or not. It is impossible for anyone to fall in between. I mean I'm sure people are out there complaining that while, yes, the CB is perfectly valid and usable, the lack of diplomacy by Athens is an issue, but since they find fault with Athens' conduct in this entire affair, it paints them white, no? It's brilliant I say. Brilliant. Everyone should be able to find some fault in Athens' conduct. Some tiny, little imperfection in the process. And I wholeheartedly agree; the null vote is always touted as an option in CN and people should realize that by now. It works every time, since we can count just how many people null their votes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ch33kY Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Who cares? It's been done. Deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Tolkien Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Who cares? It's been done. Deal with it. Quite right. Who cares about Athens' CB and conduct? They've already declared war. It's been done. Deal with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzptm Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 The poll proves nothing, either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Tolkien Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 (edited) The poll proves nothing, either. Wrong. It proves that 20% more of CN is against this war than support it! It's science! And an OWF poll! Edited December 31, 2009 by Tolkien Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 No. No one is ever perfectly justified to do anything. Ask the question the right way, and then I will reply with yes, Athens was justified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalabac Posted December 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 No. No one is ever perfectly justified to do anything. how do you figure? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Tolkien Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 how do you figure? I can tackle that from a number of different angles. Want me to be philosophical, metaphysical, bluntly realistic, obtusely dense, or some other angle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzzptm Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Wait, no, really? SCIENCE? Then I stand corrected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxodi Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Because everything is always so black and white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalabac Posted December 31, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Because everything is always so black and white. whoa. You are like, so deep. Probably dark and brooding, too. How about I put the two relevant viewpoints, and every shade of grey between is discussed? or do you want one hundred thousand poll options for every possible opinion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor Tolkien Posted December 31, 2009 Report Share Posted December 31, 2009 Because everything is always so black and white. Burn the heretic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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