rsoxbronco1 Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 My reference was to the apology and policy change threads and the comments and such that went on in them. That said, the raid was portayed by your own alliance as a game to them and for the lulz. Now your confusing our portrayal of the raid with our impression of this tread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilkenny Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Now your confusing our portrayal of the raid with our impression of this tread. Maybe what you should have done was read the post I was responding to and follow the whole conversation. That response was to a statement someone made after cherry-picking a short statement without considering the whole conversation, again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsoxbronco1 Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Maybe what you should have done was read the post I was responding to and follow the whole conversation. That response was to a statement someone made after cherry-picking a short statement without considering the whole conversation, again. So you're not making the claim that Athens earned good PR from raiding Ni? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick1 Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 (edited) Good show Bilrow! You once again are the best at what you do. Edit: I will not read this thread and debate worthless economic standings with any of you. Good Day! Edited December 6, 2009 by Tick1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgoods45 Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 A sum does not mean it is a positive sum. We've been over this. Zero is still a figure.And I did not lash out at you. It was a response to your claim that since I was uninvolved, I should not post. By that comment, only involved parties could post. Since KoN is silent, that would leave only Athens and their allies, therefore being a thread of support. The Figure is not Zero. Got it? Its around 400million and 2000 tech. Thats a pretty substantial amount don't ya think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsoxbronco1 Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 The Figure is not Zero. Got it? Its around 400million and 2000 tech. Thats a pretty substantial amount don't ya think? That's actually not what they agreed too. They made a counteroffer and we agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shurukian Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 The Figure is not Zero. Got it? Its around 400million and 2000 tech. Thats a pretty substantial amount don't ya think? Yes, I'd agree. I never meant anything malicious by proposing the number could be zero, just that it was a possibility. At this point, I'm just happy to see an end to this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick1 Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Yes, I'd agree. I never meant anything malicious by proposing the number could be zero, just that it was a possibility. At this point, I'm just happy to see an end to this situation. I'll be happy in about fifteen minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsoxbronco1 Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Yes, I'd agree. I never meant anything malicious by proposing the number could be zero, just that it was a possibility. At this point, I'm just happy to see an end to this situation. What if their counter offer was zero? That would be pretty funny and you know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iotupa Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 I don't think you do understand at all and I'm thinking you are doing so deliberately as a means to annoy. Go back and read what Kilkenny posted and what I then posted and get back to me. Actually, you'll probably be needing to get back to Kilkenny as you are asking me to support his words which I corrected in my response to him. I am most certainly not purposefully misunderstanding, nor am I attempting to annoy anyone. I wasn't the one claiming it did. Kilkenny did, re-read his initial post. My response to him was clarifying it was an agreement on the reps sum, not the release of the figure that was required before payment could commence. I misread that part as saying you thought that the release of the figure was required before Athens could begin sending their reparations. Seeing your response now and rereading it, it appears that is not what you meant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Yes, I'd agree. I never meant anything malicious by proposing the number could be zero, just that it was a possibility. At this point, I'm just happy to see an end to this situation. There was an end to the situation before you even mentioned that possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iotupa Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 There was an end to the situation before you even mentioned that possibility. Well, it's not actually over yet, Athens still hasn't begun to send any of their reparations, even though it has been just about 24 hours since an agreement was reached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick1 Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Well, it's not actually over yet, Athens still hasn't begun to send any of their reparations, even though it has been just about 24 hours since an agreement was reached. Don't you have some tech too sell? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iotupa Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Don't you have some tech too sell? I suppose I could sell some technology, but I'm not sure what that has to do with this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jgoods45 Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Well, it's not actually over yet, Athens still hasn't begun to send any of their reparations, even though it has been just about 24 hours since an agreement was reached. Takes time to organize donations and tech. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iotupa Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Takes time to organize donations and tech. Are you folks looking for any bank help? I'm willing to freelance, I know a thing or two about speedy bank work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Z Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 In before ZOMGWHYISN'TATHENSPAYINGNIYET?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Well, it's not actually over yet, Athens still hasn't begun to send any of their reparations, even though it has been just about 24 hours since an agreement was reached. Shuru claimed it was now over because of the agreement, and I pointed out the agreement was reached before she mentioned her hypothetical. By her logic it was over before she started. In before ZOMGWHYISN'TATHENSPAYINGNIYET?! You're actually late Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Z Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 You're actually late Yeah but odds are most people will ignore the last page so I'll be proven retroactively right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iotupa Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 Shuru claimed it was now over because of the agreement, and I pointed out the agreement was reached before she mentioned her hypothetical. By her logic it was over before she started. Ah, yes, if that was the point of view, then I suppose it is over in Shuru's mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kilkenny Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 So you're not making the claim that Athens earned good PR from raiding Ni? From the raid itself, no. From the apologies and the policy changes, yes. From this, no net gain -- negative PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsoxbronco1 Posted December 6, 2009 Report Share Posted December 6, 2009 From the raid itself, no.From the apologies and the policy changes, yes. From this, no net gain -- negative PR. That's the math I had in my head too. That said, it's not like we issued the apology and policy changes for the purpose of losing PR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iotupa Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I hate to sound like a broken record, but there are only 37 members in the Knights of Ni!, and it has now been approximately 43 hours since an agreement was reached, according to Athens, and yet nothing has been sent out. I understand time is needed to set things up, but you have literally had more than an hour per nation in the Knights of Ni! to arrange the reparations payments. Surely it can not take this long to begin sending. You have had plenty of time to set up a number of what appear to be both internal and external technology deals in this time, so I would think you would have had time to set up your reparations payments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tick1 Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 I hate to sound like a broken record, but there are only 37 members in the Knights of Ni!, and it has now been approximately 43 hours since an agreement was reached, according to Athens, and yet nothing has been sent out. I understand time is needed to set things up, but you have literally had more than an hour per nation in the Knights of Ni! to arrange the reparations payments. Surely it can not take this long to begin sending. You have had plenty of time to set up a number of what appear to be both internal and external technology deals in this time, so I would think you would have had time to set up your reparations payments. Well last time I checked you guys only have eight members. Seeing as It's so simple for you do decide how best to use your 40 aid slots it may be easy, but we on the other hand have a large amount of aid slots to chose from and a lot of members to consider when aiding. So unless you'd like to pay the reparations yourself could you please refrain from posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iotupa Posted December 7, 2009 Report Share Posted December 7, 2009 Well last time I checked you guys only have eight members. Seeing as It's so simple for you do decide how best to use your 40 aid slots it may be easy, but we on the other hand have a large amount of aid slots to chose from and a lot of members to consider when aiding. So unless you'd like to pay the reparations yourself could you please refrain from posting. No, I will not refrain from posting. The fact that you have a large number of aid slots to choose from means that you should have had aid flowing out immediately after the agreement was reached. During all of the time that the Knights of Ni! were "inactive" during your negotiations, you could have been planning what nations would be sending, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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