Captain Enema Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Ummmmmmmm.... for those of us who were around for those DKT... Iamthey's last statement will probably strike us as highly amusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 So do transport planes count against your total number of in game planes? So far I'm only counting combat aircraft and helicopters as part of that, but I'm happy to change it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 [quote name='Tidy Bowl Man' date='29 March 2010 - 05:56 AM' timestamp='1269856548' post='2239903'] So do transport planes count against your total number of in game planes? So far I'm only counting combat aircraft and helicopters as part of that, but I'm happy to change it. [/quote] I'm pretty sure planes covered actual jet fighters and bombers... Helicopters fell under the 'common sense' rule as they are not considered part of the airforce, but the air army. I could be wrong too. Transports are also clumped together with these too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 Hrrrrrmmmm.. gunships seem like an airstrike weapon, but ok.. I'm fine with them not being counted as I have a bucket full of them myself for a nation as small as mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthey Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 (edited) TBM: If you think someone is cheating call them out and they will have to provide some pictures with the CN timestamp visible. Problem solved . EM & TBM: Transports & cargo planes are not counted. Helicopters it would probably depend on the helicopter. A helicopter with light armaments used as a transport probably wouldn't count, a gunship with missiles and automatic weapons that probably does count. Edited March 29, 2010 by iamthey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Executive Minister Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 (edited) [quote name='iamthey' date='29 March 2010 - 01:51 PM' timestamp='1269885080' post='2240117'] TBM: If you think someone is cheating call them out and they will have to provide some pictures with the CN timestamp visible. Problem solved . EM & TBM: Transports & cargo planes are not counted. Helicopters it would probably depend on the helicopter. [b]A helicopter with light armaments used as a transport probably wouldn't count, a gunship with missiles and automatic weapons that probably does count.[/b] [/quote] Really? Can we have like a concrete ruling on this? Helicopters are not 'strike' things like a plane or cruise missile- they linger on the battlefield, quite like a tank. Edited March 30, 2010 by Executive Minister Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted March 29, 2010 Report Share Posted March 29, 2010 I know right? The bold segment made me think of hueys with flintlocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fizzydog Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 Wait, did you say max planes we could have? I'm confused. Holy *#$%, I thought it was current planes you had this second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted March 30, 2010 Report Share Posted March 30, 2010 [quote name='Fizzydog' date='29 March 2010 - 04:26 PM' timestamp='1269908793' post='2240540'] Wait, did you say max planes we could have? I'm confused. Holy *#$%, I thought it was current planes you had this second. [/quote] Fizzy...THEY JUST RULED ON IT! Two days ago. Page just before this one. [quote name='iamthey' date='27 March 2010 - 08:54 AM' timestamp='1269708864' post='2238374'] So we talked over the issue of planes, and the final ruling on the whole matter was decided. Squadrons: Nations with less than 500 tech may utilize 'half' squadrons (which would be less than or equal to 6). Nations with greater than 500 tech may utilize full squadrons (which would be greater than 6 (perhaps cap it at a maximum of 12)). Max planes vs IG planes. As soldiers and tanks can be purchased instantly IG this is reflected in RP by capping one's soldiers/tanks a the max level specific to your nation (and applying the soldier *10 multiplier after this). On the other hand, as nukes and ships cannot be purchased instantly IG, this is reflected in RP by capping one's soldiers/tanks at their respective IG level. The issue of planes has historically fallen into the latter category, however it has done so irrespective to its IG stage: that you can purchase planes instantly. That said, in order to correct this inconsistency one's RP planes are now considered to be capped at your nation specific max level (if you could have 50 or 60 or 105 planes in game, then thats how many half-squadrons/squadrons you could have in RP). [/quote] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthey Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 (edited) CN wise I think a squadron of gunships would count as 1 plane IG. (Note that a helicopter gunship is one purchasable option under the aircraft purchase section). That is just my personal opinion. I would prefer that it just be more of a common sense thing, as it has never really been a problem in the past. If someone decides to go crazy then we can step in. Edited March 31, 2010 by iamthey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Tintagyl Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Question, In light of Centurius' re-roll as Athens, I would like to ask the GMs if it is possible to preserve your story line in one country while you re-roll in another country. So in otherwords, I realize I am merged with Subtle, but say I wanted to Re-Roll somewhere else in the world, found that to be a horrible mistake and wanted to return to Australia. Could I do that without having to destroy my entire story line, just give Subtle the command of the nation and all that, while I would be free to RP as another separate country away from the bounds of Australia. But if that country failed, or got horridly boring or something else, to return to Australia and pick up where I left off. Just curious, thanks. ~Sarah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 (edited) Personally, if it was me I'd just give Subtle the nation with the understanding you could take it back at a later time. That's an understanding between the two of you that preserves your characters and population for later use. Just don't use any of your old bits and piece in your new nation is what I'd suggest. I mean anything.. seriously.. NOT A thing.. Edited March 31, 2010 by Tidy Bowl Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Tintagyl Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 [quote name='Tidy Bowl Man' date='31 March 2010 - 01:59 PM' timestamp='1270040377' post='2242006'] Personally, if it was me I'd just give Subtle the nation with the understanding you could take it back at a later time. That's an understanding between the two of you that preserves your characters and population for later use. Just don't use any of your old bits and piece in your new nation is what I'd suggest. I mean anything.. seriously.. NOT A thing.. [/quote] Wasn't going to...especially considering where I'm going. Thanks Fire, this is probably what I'll do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Wilding Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Dare I ask where you're going? Would it happen to be near JED? :3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Tintagyl Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 [quote name='Markus Wilding' date='31 March 2010 - 05:53 PM' timestamp='1270054414' post='2242117'] Dare I ask where you're going? Would it happen to be near JED? :3 [/quote] Unfortunately no, my bags are packed for Aquitaine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted March 31, 2010 Report Share Posted March 31, 2010 Oh lawds.. this might just prove to be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Tell me about it. i just learned about it 15 minutes ago... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acca Dacca Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 With the new conversation ability, I was wondering if PMs could be considered as IC. We already have it set up that IRC conversations in #cnrpic can be considered IC. The system of using PMs for IC discussion will reduce metagaming and make it so that a setup cannot be ruined. Contacting GMs over classified military deployments and other secretive operations could prove useful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 Anything ought to be considered IC so long as both parties are aware and willing. Note.. AWARE and WILLING... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted April 1, 2010 Report Share Posted April 1, 2010 The reason it works in #cnrpic is because all parties are aware and willing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 (edited) [quote name='Acca Dacca' date='31 March 2010 - 10:57 PM' timestamp='1270101434' post='2243346'] With the new conversation ability, I was wondering if PMs could be considered as IC. We already have it set up that IRC conversations in #cnrpic can be considered IC. The system of using PMs for IC discussion will reduce metagaming and make it so that a setup cannot be ruined. Contacting GMs over classified military deployments and other secretive operations could prove useful. [/quote] [quote name='Tidy Bowl Man' date='01 April 2010 - 04:38 AM' timestamp='1270121863' post='2243570'] Anything ought to be considered IC so long as both parties are aware and willing. Note.. AWARE and WILLING... [/quote] [quote name='Sargun' date='01 April 2010 - 10:19 AM' timestamp='1270142370' post='2243976'] The reason it works in #cnrpic is because all parties are aware and willing. [img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif[/img] [/quote] I have nothing wrong with either of those methods...so long as they get posted in the forum. [img]http://forums.cybernations.net/public/style_emoticons/default/tongue.gif[/img] Edited April 2, 2010 by Subtleknifewielder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acca Dacca Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 (edited) What are both parties? If Im nation A, and Im working with nation B on something I dont want nation C to know, are A and B knowing fine? [quote]I have nothing wrong with either of those methods...so long as they get posted in the forum. [/quote] thats the thing, what if what we are doing, we dont want people to know about because of metagaming? Edited April 2, 2010 by Acca Dacca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 Oh, you mean like plans and such? Like for an invasion...that wouldn't be a problem. But it's too general to apply except on a case-by-case basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamthey Posted April 2, 2010 Report Share Posted April 2, 2010 As far as I am concerned. If it is two leaders/governments communicating, planning, or doing diplomacy its fine. If it is something like fleet deployments, invasion, attacks, construction or anything else that is concrete then it should be posted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Enema Posted April 3, 2010 Report Share Posted April 3, 2010 [quote name='iamthey' date='01 April 2010 - 11:49 PM' timestamp='1270187351' post='2245121'] As far as I am concerned. If it is two leaders/governments communicating, planning, or doing diplomacy its fine. If it is something like fleet deployments, invasion, attacks, construction or anything else that is concrete then it should be posted. [/quote] I dunno.. a meeting should be posted on the forums with private tags. Think about it.. how else can someone spy if the meeting isn't posted in public? My mole that I planted in so in so's government can't be used to eavesdrop. Pretty fine line here about all of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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