Maelstrom Vortex Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) The Empire hereby recognizes the state of war recognized and initiated by the state of Yamato against Lu, current member of the Dragon Bloc. We hereby offer these surrender terms for their acceptance, they will get progressively steeper as Yamato engages in military activity. 1. End this senseless war.2. Sign a NAP with Lu. 3. Lu and Yamato representatives engaged in the heated exchange which started this mess will apologize to each other for belligerent tone. 4. Yamato drops all land claims to every territory in Asia that it does not already posses and instead seeks tourist access for its citizens to visit the homelands of their ancestory and seeks open border agreement with sovereigns over those domains. Pretty light and reasonable, aren't they? Imperial Forces and Bloc forces are in a pure defensive stance and shall remain so until Yamato initiates aggression. Edited July 6, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 "They are reasonable terms, but this is a little pre-mature, considering no announcement either way has yet been made by Yamato." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarah Tintagyl Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 OOC: Not to act like big here...but can we wait for Sumer to post her acceptance of this? So this doesn't turn into another argument between nations that aren't really involved at the moment. Take your globalization arguments to another thread that you've derailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 *Classified* Pax Pacis peace keeping forces are prepared to make a move into Yamato or the Empire of Lu depending on how the situation develops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 The moment a drop of Imperial or bloc blood is spilled or our borders are violated these terms will immediately escalate to the following: 1. Unconditional Surrender. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lutai Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) "Hmm this may look acceptable , The Empire accepts this proposal openly " ~ Eunuch Zhi yuanshi Edited July 6, 2009 by lutai Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavo Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 These terms are fair and reasonable. We stand be our DE allies in this time of crisis. ***Classified*** The RN fleets deployed to the DE have arrived and are now commencing operations just outside Yamato's (and Palintine's, to clear up any possible confusion) waters. The fleet will be ensuring that Yamato vessels are not able to reinforce their other holdings and their forces outside their main holdings. The RAF detachments arrived before the RN fleets and are currently on stand-by. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Kevz Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 With apologies to Yamato Pax Pacis peace keeping forces have already lifted off, their destination being Yamato itself. *Classified message to Yamato* "I apologise for acting without much warning but in the interests of peace and stability I shall be moving a force of peace keepers into your region. Please be aware they will not try to take control or get in your way they are there for your safety just as much as any other. I ask for your assistance and co operation in this matter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) Glorious Aotearoa condemns this attack on your ally, and calls for the Dragon Empire to stand down. We also call for you to be expelled from the Pax Pacifica on ground of failing to meet the requirements and violating Clause one. Edited July 6, 2009 by LeVentNoir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaiserMelech Mikhail Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 ~ Eunuch Zhi yuanshi OOC: Bummer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkantos Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 ***CLASSIFIED*** ANBTLGRP 1 is now at DEFCON 2. The rest of the Aigin Military is at DEFCON 3. We will wait to see how this situation plays out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Glorious Aotearoa condemns this attack on your ally, and calls for you to stand down.We also call for you to be expelled from the Pax Pacifica on ground of failing to meet the requirements and violating Clause one. "You are referring to the Dragon Empire, we presume?" OOC: @ Sarah. Sorry. i'll tdo my best to try and avoid that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) RE: Greater Aotearoa "We haven't attacked anyone yet. We'll stand down when they do. Troops are stationed in Lu and along the east coast for our protection. Navies are along the coastline. That is all. This ball is in Yamato's court." Edited July 6, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 RE: Greater Aotearoa"We haven't attacked anyone yet. We'll stand down when they do. Troops are stationed in Lu and along the east coast for our protection. Navies are along the coastline. That is all. This ball is in Yamato's court." You are still in violation of Article one of the Pax Pacifica. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) You are still in violation of Article one of the Pax Pacifica. Yamato initiated the state of war and there have been no military operations. No violation. Edited July 6, 2009 by Sargun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Yamato initiated the state of war and there have been no military operations.No violation. Yes, Yamato did initiate the state of war with the Lu Empire, and correct, that has not violated the Pax. However, Clause one prevents signatories from initiating states of war with each other, something the Dragon Empire has done to Yamato, so hence, the Dragon Empire is in violation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 "Not true, I only recognized the state of war they declared on our ally, and therefore us by proxy." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iKrolm Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) "Not true, I only recognized the state of war they declared on our ally, and therefore us by proxy." We believe that because Yamato declared on Lu, bring the Dragon Empire into the conflict, DE did not initiate the state of war and until DE attacks ('overt military actions'), he has not violated the agreement. Clause One. Non aggression. Signatories of this pact agree to not initiate states of war nor engage in covert or overt military actions against each other. Edited July 6, 2009 by iKrolm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 "Not true, I only recognized the state of war they declared on our ally, and therefore us by proxy." Incorrect. The Dragon Empire and Lu are separate, sovereign nations. There are two states of war here. The one Yamato initiated against Lu, and the one initiated by the Dragon Empire against Yamato. We do not recognize Yamato having initiated any state of war between itself and the Dragon Empire, as it has only Declared war on Lu. The Dragon Empire, stating the Dragon Block MDP as CB then initiated a state of war with Yamato. So, either the Dragon Empire is in Violation, or Lu is not a sovereign nation, and actually part of the Dragon Empire, which is the only war Yamato could have initiated the state of war between itself and the Dragon Empire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) "We understand Greater Aotearoa's point of view on this statement, but hopes it understands the indirect causality of this situation caused by our necessity to defend a block member from Yamato state aggression." Edited July 6, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markus Wilding Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 All Hae Da Fung military is now on high alert for any possible Yamao attack. Bayonets are now standard issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir jesus Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 Yes, Yamato did initiate the state of war with the Lu Empire, and correct, that has not violated the Pax. However, Clause one prevents signatories from initiating states of war with each other, something the Dragon Empire has done to Yamato, so hence, the Dragon Empire is in violation. initiate: to begin, set going, or originate I do not believe that the Dragon Empire has begun a war with Yamato. They are the aggressors. The Melvin Republic has taken note of the warrantless diplomatic aggression Glorious Aotearoa is partaking in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maelstrom Vortex Posted July 6, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) "He's pinpointing technicalities Landry, he's right about the technicalities. I think he fully realizes our motives are the defense of our ally. We have initiated a defensive war, focused on defending Lu." ooc: Think Desert Shield. Edited July 6, 2009 by Maelstrom Vortex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 initiate: to begin, set going, or originateI do not believe that the Dragon Empire has begun a war with Yamato. They are the aggressors. The Melvin Republic has taken note of the warrantless diplomatic aggression Glorious Aotearoa is partaking in. Before there was no state of war between Yamato and the Dragon Empire. With the announcement there is. Hence, you started it. In defense of an ally, yes, in a defensive manner yes, however, your nation, the Dragon Empire was the one to initiate the state of war between itself and Yamato. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted July 6, 2009 Report Share Posted July 6, 2009 It would be unfair to expel the Dragon Empire only. Because of Yamato the DE had to violate another treaty to defend their ally. It only seems fair that if the Dragon Empire is put on the cutting block so should Yamato. But that's just our two cents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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