emily Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I was just wondering. Is someone from MHA gonna let me know when I get my fair trial? (or indeed any trial at all). I don't want to air dirty laundry on the OWF, but would really appreciate the chance to put my side to the court. Thus far this has been denied me. Answer by PM is fine! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayOvfEnnay Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 If answer by PM is fine, why is question by topic also fine? =_=' Did this really need a topic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scutterbug Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 You confessed to the crime of spying and you know we have the logs of your query with me. That is all that will be said on the matter, You made your bed you can lay in it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brenna Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 If you didnt want to air dirty laundry on the OWF why come to the OWF and ask for a fair trial. Seems you would just draw attention to the dirty laundry anyway with making a presence here about the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Diorno Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 You confessed to the crime of spying and you know we have the logs of your query with me.That is all that will be said on the matter, You made your bed you can lay in it Well, that was quick, good show everyone. o/ and everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enderland Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 (edited) edit - It appears this is more complicated than I originally had thought Edited June 28, 2009 by ender land Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emily Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 (edited) You confessed to the crime of spying and you know we have the logs of your query with me.That is all that will be said on the matter, You made your bed you can lay in it 1. What I confessed to does not amount to spying. (Spy: To observe SECRETIVELY or furtively with HOSTILE intent) 2. I am still entitled to a trial. Edited June 28, 2009 by emily Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Diorno Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 1. What I confessed to does not amount to spying. (Spy: To observe SECRETIVELY or furtively with HOSTILE intent)2. I am still entitled to a trial. hah hah hah hah, I think I see where this is going. Don't say anything for like 20 minutes, I'll go get the world's smallest violin, if I play it everyone will feel sorry for you and we can all hate the evil MHA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emily Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 hah hah hah hah, I think I see where this is going. Don't say anything for like 20 minutes, I'll go get the world's smallest violin, if I play it everyone will feel sorry for you and we can all hate the evil MHA. No - I just want a fair trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tristram Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 public trial?? I know sorum loves the public debates, lets find out what the thread is about :laugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emily Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 public trial?? I know sorum loves the public debates, lets find out what the thread is about :laugh: I don't think you have enough popcorn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teriethien Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 So while we're on the topic of airing dirty laundry on the OWF, what did you do that you don't think is spying? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsoxbronco1 Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I predict this will solve all your problems...What could go wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tristram Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 From what I heard: Emily left MHA Was Babysitting someone's nation and forum account Logged into said account Was ZI'd what i dont understand is why the harsh response to a former government member which has much better secrets than what's on the public member forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrael Alexander Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I was just wondering. Is someone from MHA gonna let me know when I get my fair trial? (or indeed any trial at all).I don't want to air dirty laundry on the OWF, but would really appreciate the chance to put my side to the court. Thus far this has been denied me. Answer by PM is fine! I do not have a position to comment, but if your asking for a trial from the MHA court that's a right for hitchhikers only I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emily Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 So while we're on the topic of airing dirty laundry on the OWF, what did you do that you don't think is spying? Saw a 4 page long OOC hate campaign by MHA gov against a gentle and lovely former member. So privately advised MHA gov to take it down before it was leaked any further and caused more distress to the chap involved. But looking back, perhaps that was the exact intention of the thread in the first place. No secrecy about what I'd seen, no hostile intent, no passing details to other people. Just pointing out that this is not how the MHA i know and loved used to behave, and trying to protect a dear friend. If that's a crime then I'll take ZI for that! But I would still like a trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emily Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I do not have a position to comment, but if your asking for a trial from the MHA court that's a right for hitchhikers only I believe. I would quote the precedent of the State vs Josshil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrael Alexander Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 From what I heard:Emily left MHA Was Babysitting someone's nation and forum account Logged into said account Was ZI'd what i dont understand is why the harsh response to a former government member which has much better secrets than what's on the public member forum While you do not have the full facts I can see why you may feel it is harsh. But the fact is you only know one side of the story. If your inferring that because this this Emily may choose to release internal MHA "secrets" well I almost certain that is would simply show the class and honour of my alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tristram Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 That is true, as funny as it sounds. State vs. Josshill did conclude after he had left the alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heyman Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 The plot thickens. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tristram Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 While you do not have the full facts I can see why you may feel it is harsh. But the fact is you only know one side of the story. If your inferring that because this this Emily may choose to release internal MHA "secrets" well I almost certain that is would simply show the class and honour of my alliance. 20:53 < tristram> scutterbug if its so sensitive why did you guys send me the logs for no reason 20:54 <@ScutterBug[MHA]> shame she made that hard on herself returning to spy on us 20:54 <@ScutterBug[MHA]> you were a concerned party 20:54 <@ScutterBug[MHA]> as she also claimed to have access to ur forums 20:54 <@ScutterBug[MHA]> we forwarded the required info to you guys 20:54 < tristram> i would have ignored me I think i have both sides of that down pretty well Afterall, I was a concerned party. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emily Posted June 28, 2009 Author Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 While you do not have the full facts I can see why you may feel it is harsh. But the fact is you only know one side of the story. If your inferring that because this this Emily may choose to release internal MHA "secrets" well I almost certain that is would simply show the class and honour of my alliance. And do you think said thread demonstrates this "class and honour?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrael Alexander Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 I would quote the precedent of the State vs Josshil iirc his court case was due to being part of two alliances. In which case as he was already in the MHA then joined the other alliance without officially leaving the MHA. He was still a hitchhiker and thus entitled to a trial in the MHA court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrael Alexander Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 And do you think said thread demonstrates this "class and honour?" I think it demonstrates an angered community, the thread you talk about was reactionary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerald Meanĕ Posted June 28, 2009 Report Share Posted June 28, 2009 Saw a 4 page long OOC hate campaign by MHA gov against a gentle and lovely former member. So privately advised MHA gov to take it down before it was leaked any further and caused more distress to the chap involved. But looking back, perhaps that was the exact intention of the thread in the first place. No secrecy about what I'd seen, no hostile intent, no passing details to other people. Just pointing out that this is not how the MHA i know and loved used to behave, and trying to protect a dear friend. If that's a crime then I'll take ZI for that! But I would still like a trial. Small question about the bolded part. Does that mean you'd have leaked it, or that there was the possibility that someone could leak it and cause trouble? Because if it's the first part while it might not be spying I can see why you'd be on the tail end of a beat down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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