Luis Quezada Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 And now go and find where we're actually at war with them. It's okay, I'll wait. LOL So you DoW but since you aren't at war in this specific moment, you are off the hook? You shouldve thought more about your DoW then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sir jesus Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 The winner was decided before the first shot was fired. Don't think for a second we didn't know it then and we don't know it now. We still have the best interest of you and our other allies at heart.We tried our best to prevent this mess. We tried our best to help allies, such as yourself, from getting into this in the first place. Don't tell me we don't have class when you haven't got a clue of our motives. TOP speed isn't a joke. Having said that, I still wish you at IRON the best of luck. Thank you, kind words are always appreciated. I retract my statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Dan Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 It's okay, I'll do it for you. Zero attacks launched on a single orange nation, R&R or whatever else was even mentioned. It's laughable to activate a MDaP without even having a shot fired. You declared war on them. I don't care if you have a nation attacking or not. If you had no intent to hit them, then you should not have declared on them. If you have intent to cause them harm, then we are fully justified. I apologize if assuming that you meant R&R harm in your declaration of WAR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deruvian Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 (edited) And now go and find where we're actually at war with them. It's okay, I'll wait. we declare war on NPOSigned for R&R 3 hours later... Echelon hereby acknowledges a state of war with all parties currently engaging the New Pacific Order. R&R was at war with the NPO as of that announcement. Therefore you are at war with them. Edited April 27, 2009 by Deruvian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalaskan Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Please Raunchero, stop wasting your time, they just want to fight for a bigger side..that's it !! We fight for all our allies, whether you can see it or not. Also, a late entry can be a smart move sometimes ya know? Lets you evaluate what is happening and how to help all your allies the best you could. I don't imagine you understand the spectrum of that, so I will let you continue with your mindless drivel. I don't think people know how saddened we are by this whole war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khyber Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 (edited) It's okay, I'll do it for you. Zero attacks launched on a single orange nation, R&R or whatever else was even mentioned. It's laughable to activate a MDaP without even having a shot fired. Xytron, a dow is enough to put you at war with an alliance, even if you don't make a single declaration. I'm not sure why Echeon declared the whole world and not one alliance attacking the NPO, but oh well it was done. That said this is not a war TOP takes joy in being involved in. Lets hope this will put an end to this war quicker and we can all start rebuilding. As a side note I highly respect IRON, and seriously hope that some day we can show you that we even now are upholding the spirit of our treaty. These are sad times for us to see you hurting. Edited April 27, 2009 by Khyber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BastardofGod Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 We fight for all our allies, whether you can see it or not. Also, a late entry can be a smart move sometimes ya know? Lets you evaluate what is happening and how to help all your allies the best you could. I don't imagine you understand the spectrum of that, so I will let you continue with your mindless drivel.I don't think people know how saddened we are by this whole war. O pish posh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hasin Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 O pish posh. Care to elaborate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Rahl Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 O pish posh. Care to elaborate? What he means is that we were supposed to fight for those who majorly screwed us and showed absolutely zero respect for us, without thinking twice about it. We weren't supposed to look at our treaties or debate amongst ourselves on what course of action to take. Nope, that's not the way we are "allowed" to run our own alliance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Titus Pullo Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 What he means is that we were supposed to fight for those who majorly screwed us and showed absolutely zero respect for us, without thinking twice about it. We weren't supposed to look at our treaties or debate amongst ourselves on what course of action to take. Nope, that's not the way we are "allowed" to run our own alliance. Yea... who needs sovereignty when you have a peanut gallery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leetopia II Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Xytron, a dow is enough to put you at war with an alliance, even if you don't make a single declaration. I'm not sure why Echeon declared the whole world and not one alliance attacking the NPO, but oh well it was done.That said this is not a war TOP takes joy in being involved in. Lets hope this will put an end to this war quicker and we can all start rebuilding. Yeah I understand your reasoning, but we aren't even in a position to engage them. It's retarded, that's not defending an ally, that's just jumping in late and getting some free tech/land under the guise of a defense pact. It's pathetic and TOP will have this late cowardly DoW thrown back in their faces in a future war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ejayrazz Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 There is no way to please everyone. Call TOP cowards, call them what you wish, but one day when my alliance is threatened, I can count on them to be my brothers. There is no way to satisfy everyone. Give em' hell TOP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feanor Noldorin Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Yeah I understand your reasoning, but we aren't even in a position to engage them. It's retarded, that's not defending an ally, that's just jumping in late and getting some free tech/land under the guise of a defense pact. It's pathetic and TOP will have this late cowardly DoW thrown back in their faces in a future war. You can't please everyone. /shrugs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BastardofGod Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 What he means is that we were supposed to fight for those who majorly screwed us and showed absolutely zero respect for us, without thinking twice about it. We weren't supposed to look at our treaties or debate amongst ourselves on what course of action to take. Nope, that's not the way we are "allowed" to run our own alliance. Well there ya go. At least have a little backbone with it. Don't act like your sad for your decision and you had to do what was best for all of your allies by voiding some treaties and keeping others. Its a shame others didn't see where TOP stood for this long time. I knew where TOP stood ever since the Unjust Conflict. I have not the need of time or care to bring on a debate or mean any disrespect. But I call BS where I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nananana Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Yeah I understand your reasoning, but we aren't even in a position to engage them. It's retarded, that's not defending an ally, that's just jumping in late and getting some free tech/land under the guise of a defense pact. It's pathetic and TOP will have this late cowardly DoW thrown back in their faces in a future war. the nukes we eat will more than cancel out any gains we get. I can't tell you how hungry I am for fallout green negative infra growth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Rahl Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Yeah I understand your reasoning, but we aren't even in a position to engage them. It's retarded, that's not defending an ally, that's just jumping in late and getting some free tech/land under the guise of a defense pact. It's pathetic and TOP will have this late cowardly DoW thrown back in their faces in a future war. I can see it now. "TOP, we are fighting you because you declared war on Echelon for no reason whatsoever. They weren't even at war. Wait...they declared war on your allies? Hmmm. Well, they didn't actually attack any of them. So therefore you guys are, um, cowards. Yeah!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hydro Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 allow me to correct you,it is vult, not an vault. Allow me to correct you! It is vult, not a vault. On a more serious note, welcome to the fray TOP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hansarius Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 TOP declaring war on us. That's quite something to wake up to. We must have been doing something right. Anyway, it'll be fun having you help me increase my casualty stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solidus117 Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 The Order of the Paradox are welcome to the fight, however I respectfully disagree with the casus belli presented in this declaration, vis-a-vis the argument presented by my comrade Leetopia II. In all honestly, I believe you could have merely sat-out the war and helped your fellow Oranges, as pursuant to other articles of the OUT, by providing post-war support. C'est la vie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leetopia II Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 I can see it now. "TOP, we are fighting you because you declared war on Echelon for no reason whatsoever. They weren't even at war. Wait...they declared war on your allies? Hmmm. Well, they didn't actually attack any of them. So therefore you guys are, um, cowards. Yeah!" Um, no? You have allies on both sides and you're blatantly choosing the side that'll save you the most infra. This comes back to haunt EVERYONE eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leetopia II Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 (edited) Edit: double post :/ Edited April 27, 2009 by Leetopia II Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 It's pathetic and TOP will have this late cowardly DoW thrown back in their faces in a future war. That type of attitude is a no no when you might be outnumbered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Terrible Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 (edited) To everyone complaining about TOP being a horrible ally, cowardly, etc, etc. It's totally cool with me. Seriously. You don't have to call them your ally. That just leaves more of them for us And to TOP: 50% of all your nations online for an update blitz? Scary as hell. Edited April 27, 2009 by Trouble Terrible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
necAnt Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 Allow me to correct you! It is vult, not a vault. On a more serious note, welcome to the fray TOP! I stand corrected. Thank you very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jstep Posted April 27, 2009 Report Share Posted April 27, 2009 (edited) TOP declaring war on us. That's quite something to wake up to. We must have been doing something right.Anyway, it'll be fun having you help me increase my casualty stats. thats my avatar on TOP forums... definitely a valid CB Edited April 27, 2009 by jstep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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