Duncan King Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 (edited) We jived with most of them just fine. Maybe perhaps not yours, but that wasn't a factor in our leaving.I'm amazed people are still uninformed enough of that situation to think that our former alliance had any bearing on where we went or why we are going back. Take care White. Heeeelllllllooooooooooooo Aqua I think I know a bit more about that than you think but that's neither here nor there. Zenith's early days were very tied to events in MHA immediately before Argent's founding due to us accepting a certain former MHA gov member. But that seems to have resolved itself. In any event, lay off, I was being supportive. Zenith never had an issue with Argent, we just follow different stars. Many of my favorite hitchhikers went on to found Argent. In any event, good luck on Aqua. Edited April 20, 2009 by Duncan King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowbeast Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Congrats Argent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobb Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 welcome to aqua, please leave all dips at the doorstep! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
potato Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Oh God! Noooooooooooooo! You mean I actually have to work with Dip?!? Think half a year in a certain Orange alliance wasn't enough ... ;[ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alterego Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 This has been in discussions internally for a few weeks, and the decision was made to pack our nukes and head out of the snow, and back to water. Very unusual goodbye message considering its not a military treaty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChesterStevensDevonn Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 luls i second that o/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janax Posted April 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Very unusual goodbye message considering its not a military treaty. We just like nukes. A lot. "Pack our banks/tech" doesn't have the same ring to it either, and we like our money and tech a lot too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uralica Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 As sad as I am to see you leave white, I still you guys. I mean come on, you guys are awesome! Anyone who thinks TOOL has anything less than total Argent wub needs to go read their/our MDoAP list o/ Argent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
William Blake Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 (edited) We just like nukes. A lot. "Pack our banks/tech" doesn't have the same ring to it either, and we like our money and tech a lot too. Pack up your lumber and oil? edit: added a smilie in case anyone thought that was a comment made out of bitterness and not just a joke Edited April 20, 2009 by William Blake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poobah Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 (edited) I think I know a bit more about that than you think but that's neither here nor there. Zenith's early days were very tied to events in MHA immediately before Argent's founding due to us accepting a certain former MHA gov member. But that seems to have resolved itself. See that Rusty? I'm STILL more relevant than you. If you want to know one of the major factors in our leaving white, it's not because we don't like the alliances one white (Except TOOL and UCN...we hate those guys). Aqua is a much more hospitable sphere for trading, particularly with the recent Fark invasion and the founding of the Hive. Thanks for trying to make it seem like alliances on white hate us though. I thought that we were at least neutraled by most of the alliances there. Edited April 20, 2009 by Poobah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azrael Alexander Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Welcome back guys, how does it feel to be home Now you guys can feel the aqua again also (just read the top and ignore the bottom) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentor Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 welcome to Aqua, good choice!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gen Lee Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 good move. + another solid alliance for aqua. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeroicDisaster Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Well, the most important treaty was dropped, now the war can begin. Congrats Argent, good luck. Except for that diomede fellow, I don't like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBuc Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Well yes. Drama! Of course. They should have kept a White econ treaty after moving to Aqua. -Bama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poobah Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 You know, re-reading some of the responses to this thread, I need to feel like I need to make something clear. SNOW is the white unity economic/NAP. Our reasons for canceling it are moving to aqua. We still hold individual treaties, including our MDoAP with TOOL, with several SNOW signatories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duncan King Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 (edited) See that Rusty? I'm STILL more relevant than you.If you want to know one of the major factors in our leaving white, it's not because we don't like the alliances one white (Except TOOL and UCN...we hate those guys). Aqua is a much more hospitable sphere for trading, particularly with the recent Fark invasion and the founding of the Hive. Thanks for trying to make it seem like alliances on white hate us though. I thought that we were at least neutraled by most of the alliances there. Thanks for misinterpreting my post. What I meant was that you always seemed to have your sights set elsewhere with mostly out of color (Citadel) treaties and didn't seem too into color unity. Not that everyone hated you, from what I saw, we all were either neutral about you or liked you. Myself and Zenith wish you no ill will. Again, good luck on aqua. May your trades be plentiful. Edited April 20, 2009 by Duncan King Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RustyNail Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Oh good grief, you people stop looking for drama where there isn't any. There is enough of that going on right now. We wanted more trade options for internal growth initiatives, end of story. Plus, aqua makes my butt look smaller. We don't have any problems with anyone that doesn't have a problem with us. Now give daddy some sugar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBuc Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Shut up poobah and rusty, I want to read drama into this whether it's there or not. This cancellation is clearly an indication that you're gonna cancel on us. After all we've done for you. HOW COULD YOU????? Seriously, people, do your homework. When people move spheres, they have a tendency to withdraw from economic treaties on the old sphere. I would think that these days, people wouldn't have to turn to a sphere change announcement to dig for drama. Argent, sorry to see you leave White and SNOW. Best of luck on Aqua. -Bama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janax Posted April 20, 2009 Author Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 We thought about moving one person to every color and signing them all, but apparently that's frowned on. If they all had NAPs built in, only the Grey Council would need fear us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freedomfight3r Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Oh good grief, you people stop looking for drama where there isn't any. There is enough of that going on right now. We wanted more trade options for internal growth initiatives, end of story. Plus, aqua makes my butt look smaller.We don't have any problems with anyone that doesn't have a problem with us. Now give daddy some sugar! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenzilla Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Of course. They should have kept a White econ treaty after moving to Aqua.-Bama Meh, it has a NAP clause. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BamaBuc Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Meh, it has a NAP clause. That's a weak defense, my friend. You're saying they should have kept a White Team economic treaty after moving to Aqua because it has an NAP clause? Huh? Sorry, but even if SNOW was an MADP, it's still a one-color treaty. People leave those when switching colors. That's the idea of a color treaty. For the life of me, I don't see the drama here. There's real drama all over the forums, and you choose this? -Bama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jipps Posted April 20, 2009 Report Share Posted April 20, 2009 Sad to see you guys go. White is so addicting, I guess this is what happens when you stop using TOOL's crack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akama Posted April 21, 2009 Report Share Posted April 21, 2009 (edited) Welcome back to aqua! o7 Argent o7 Aqua Edited April 21, 2009 by Bungalo Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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