Chickenzilla Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 I thought you guys were supposed to include internal backstabbing per the opening announcement of the alliance by Ivan? The above looks as if this is going to be more of a traditional alliance. One can follow their leaders loyally while gathering support to coup said leaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corinan Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 One can follow their leaders loyally while gathering support to coup said leaders. So hey yeah, I can see you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chickenzilla Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 So hey yeah, I can see you. Ohshi- In reality, I hate leading alliances, so don't worry about me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KFedistan Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 Ohshi-In reality, I hate leading alliances, so don't worry about me How's that 'getting off of lists' thing going? This alliance looks like it is going to be amazing, and of course the leadership will be top notch. Congrats on forming and coming back, Ivan. It is out of respect to you that we haven't yet renewed our CZI on this iteration of chicken. An apology from chicken and assurances that he will not continue his previous actions against NATO would be a good start though. OOC: I'm just a little bitter still that he attacked my wife's nation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heft Posted March 7, 2009 Report Share Posted March 7, 2009 I thought you guys were supposed to include internal backstabbing per the opening announcement of the alliance by Ivan? The above looks as if this is going to be more of a traditional alliance. The alliance will encourage competition and to a certain degree internal conflict, but it will not descend into endless unproductive feuding. It is possible for unproductive leaders to be removed from their positions. Complacency and comfort will not settle in so easily, as others will be looking to take higher ranking positions. It would be conceivable for one of the highest ranking leaders, either one of us Sith Lords or even Ivan himself, to be overtaken by a more dedicated, more skilled, and more focused member of the alliance, but that in itself does not mean that the leadership is not strong or not capable of keeping the alliance disciplined and cohesive. The admission that our positions are not inviolable and that incompetent leaders will not remain in leadership should only serve to strengthen our discipline and our leadership. At the same time, the admission that we aren't planning on feuding amongst ourselves constantly does not make us a "traditional" alliance in any significant sense. We will work to strengthen the Order, because by doing so we will strengthen our own individual positions. That we can balance strong personalities vying for individual gain with the needs of the alliance as a whole is something that will make us unique among most alliances, as there are very few that can find both the structure and the culture necessary to make that balance and inherent tension work to its fullest potential. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The AUT Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 I'm just in complete disbelief at the fact that Chickenzilla and Heft are in the same alliance. Good luck guys, but in the end it'll be up to Ivan as to where this alliance goes in terms of foreign affairs and other matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owned-You Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 The alliance will encourage competition and to a certain degree internal conflict, but it will not descend into endless unproductive feuding. It is possible for unproductive leaders to be removed from their positions. Complacency and comfort will not settle in so easily, as others will be looking to take higher ranking positions. It would be conceivable for one of the highest ranking leaders, either one of us Sith Lords or even Ivan himself, to be overtaken by a more dedicated, more skilled, and more focused member of the alliance, but that in itself does not mean that the leadership is not strong or not capable of keeping the alliance disciplined and cohesive. The admission that our positions are not inviolable and that incompetent leaders will not remain in leadership should only serve to strengthen our discipline and our leadership.At the same time, the admission that we aren't planning on feuding amongst ourselves constantly does not make us a "traditional" alliance in any significant sense. We will work to strengthen the Order, because by doing so we will strengthen our own individual positions. That we can balance strong personalities vying for individual gain with the needs of the alliance as a whole is something that will make us unique among most alliances, as there are very few that can find both the structure and the culture necessary to make that balance and inherent tension work to its fullest potential. Well Spoken Comrade, And agreed on all points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heft Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 I'm just in complete disbelief at the fact that Chickenzilla and Heft are in the same alliance. Even more surprisingly, we've actually been getting along. I'm not sure how to feel about that yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Specific Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Even more surprisingly, we've actually been getting along. I'm not sure how to feel about that yet. It is quite disturbing. Such is the way of the dark side? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Padme Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 Hatred is a powerful adhesive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Death II Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 I feel the hatred pulsing through my veins. It feels good to be on the dark side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Specific Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 I feel the hatred pulsing through my veins. It feels good to be on the dark side. That's not hatred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Death II Posted March 8, 2009 Report Share Posted March 8, 2009 lolinsidejokeisinside I gotcha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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