Neuro Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 (edited) Can someone please explain the entire process of claiming land on Africa? I was told to merely post here but it's starting to apear to be a bit more complicated than that. If someone would be so kind as to explaining the process, I'd greatly appreciate it. Shukrun Edited February 14, 2009 by Neuro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastab Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 OOC: Is there a vote for your admittance to the Coalition? Have you even applied? OOC: I assume this covered my membership as well as the land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedran Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 OOC: I assume this covered my membership as well as the land. OOC: I was under the impression the vote was only for giving you the land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastab Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 OOC: I was under the impression the vote was only for giving you the land. OOC: Well... want to start a vote for that too, then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botha Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 OOC: Transvaal is a non-voting observor in the PAC so we don't get to vote - but I can understand both mastab and neuro's frustration with inaction in trying to claim land. In true African fashion it seems the wheels are starting to come off the PAC cart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jutopia la Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 OOC: An active member! If I promised to be your best friend forever would you vote on my admittance to PAC? OOC: I am not in PAC. I just happen to be in Africa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastab Posted February 14, 2009 Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 OOC: By the way, Neuro and I have come to an agreement on how we'll deal with Somalia, so there isn't an issue with overlapping claims. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted February 14, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 14, 2009 "The Western Republic has changed our vote to no for KAAT." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavo Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) OOC: Editted, didn't notice that Gebiv left the PAC. Edited February 15, 2009 by Lavo_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
New Frontier Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 (edited) Sir Dagon, Count of Aries and Representative of His Excellency, Lord Ammon, son of Ammon, stood before the Assembly in his finest garb, having spent the last weeks riding across the continent to make his case here in Realm. "Gentlemen of the Assembly, I stand here before you as a representative of the newly confederated Realm of Magenta. His Excellency Lord Ammon has sent me here to make a case for Magentian membership in the Pan-African Coalition." Taking a breath, the Count continued. "In order to show how important this is to our Realm, His Excellency chose not to send a common diplomat, but rather sent myself, the second most powerful man in the Realm. We are truly dedicated to the concept of African unity, and African stability is one of our highest goals. We may not have enough of a military today to make us a powerful player on the world stage, but rest assured that this will not be the case for long. "I implore you, my African brothers. Accept the Realm of Magenta into your Coalition, and you will not regret it." Edited February 15, 2009 by New Frontier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastab Posted February 15, 2009 Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 "The Western Republic has changed our vote to no for KAAT." OOC: If it's because of the business with RV, that happened after I presumably gained land somewhere. For this thread, I have no nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted February 15, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2009 OOC: If it's because of the business with RV, that happened after I presumably gained land somewhere. For this thread, I have no nation. OOC: It's more of your support for nations we dislike and that we think you'll be trouble in Africa (IC of course). OOC, I'd love to have you as a neighbor, but I'm trying to keep Africa boring so we can survive and whatnot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Steele Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 Can I have a chunk of any eastern area that isn't somalia? Please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastab Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 OOC: It's more of your support for nations we dislike and that we think you'll be trouble in Africa (IC of course). OOC, I'd love to have you as a neighbor, but I'm trying to keep Africa boring so we can survive and whatnot OOC: But any support I gave took place after I had a nation... >_> Eh, it doesn't matter anyway. I'm withdrawing my claims. This is taking a bit too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted February 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 OOC: The problem is that two of our nations (the president and myself) are on vacation and one of us just left the game (more or less). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lavo Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) VOTE FOR GIVING KAAT PAC PROTECTORATE LAND Realm: The Western Republic: No Rebel Army: Tiebreaker Arctica: Yes Wighton: Novak: The Imperium: OOC: If there are any votes I missed, please tell me. I'm going to try and get mastab's thing done. Edited February 16, 2009 by Lavo_2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted February 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 VOTE FOR GIVING KAAT PAC PROTECTORATE LANDRealm: The Western Republic: No Rebel Army: Tiebreaker Arctica: Yes Wighton: Novak: The Imperium: OOC: If there are any votes I missed, please tell me. I'm going to try and get mastab's thing done. OOC: He's withdrawing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastab Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 OOC: Oh.... if this could still be done I'd be interested. I just wanted to get some land quickly so I could start RPing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastab Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 OOC: I was thinking that it'd be simplest if I just RPed some sort of revolution in the protectorate. What do you guys think? It seems to me that since nobody has yet had any OOC problems with me taking it, it would avoid the problem of waiting for inactive PAC members, it fits with my nation RP stuff, and the middle of a nuclear war seems like a good revolution time it'd be the best option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vedran Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 OOC: I don't see any reason why you can't, unless someone objects OOC to your people being there in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted February 16, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 OOC: I was thinking that it'd be simplest if I just RPed some sort of revolution in the protectorate. What do you guys think? It seems to me that since nobody has yet had any OOC problems with me taking it, it would avoid the problem of waiting for inactive PAC members, it fits with my nation RP stuff, and the middle of a nuclear war seems like a good revolution time it'd be the best option. OOC: The problem is that you'd get a lot of IC enemies (see: the PAC) really fast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Botha Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 (edited) OOC: The problem is that you'd get a lot of IC enemies (see: the PAC) really fast. OOC: I did give him the option to take over some territory in the north of Transvaal but he declined. But it would have allowed him to avoid having to deal with the PAC to acquire a claim. But his revolution would have coincided perfectly with my civil war at the time (minus the nukes). Also, land claims should be treated at as being quasi-OOC. Because who says that former PAC protectorates are obligated to join the PAC? I think the idea of setting up the protectorates in the first place was to eliminate colonialism. It really should not have to go to an IC vote if colonialism is not a factor in the claim. Edited February 16, 2009 by Botha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastab Posted February 16, 2009 Report Share Posted February 16, 2009 OOC: OOC: The problem is that you'd get a lot of IC enemies (see: the PAC) really fast. During a nuclear war doesn't seem like a good time to be worrying about rebels. Especially if those rebels have nukes. OOC: I did give him the option to take over some territory in the north of Transvaal but he declined. But it would have allowed him to avoid having to deal with the PAC to acquire a claim. But his revolution would have coincided perfectly with my civil war at the time (minus the nukes).Also, land claims should be treated at as being quasi-OOC. Because who says that former PAC protectorates are obligated to join the PAC? I think the idea of setting up the protectorates in the first place was to eliminate colonialism. It really should not have to go to an IC vote if colonialism is not a factor in the claim. Thanks for that offer, but I'd still prefer to start clean in the protectorate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neuro Posted February 17, 2009 Report Share Posted February 17, 2009 I'd like to make a claim for the Mogadishu region of Somalia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted February 19, 2009 Author Report Share Posted February 19, 2009 The Western Republic hereby withdraws from the Pan-Africa Coalition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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