Subtleknifewielder Posted June 3, 2009 Report Share Posted June 3, 2009 It passes the time. Oh, I see. Uh, it's a PC game, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEDCJT Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) Oh, I see. Uh, it's a PC game, right? Yep, it's a PC game, and I hear it's really good. Too bad I cant find it anywhere... Edited June 4, 2009 by JEDCJT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V The King Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Yep, it's a PC game, and I hear it's really good. Too bad I cant find it anywhere... 'Tis always available at GamersGate.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 If I can go back to the saved stats thing for a minute. I don’t have a problem with it. There are things going on in CN that most of us have no control over, for instance the recent war devastated a lot of people in cnrp. Believe me the weakened state of some cnrp'ers is something I'd love to take advantage of, but it just wouldn't be fair. As long as you have the proof of your stats before the war then it shouldn't be a problem. In other news, I think this nation locking thing is being taken advantage of. It seems like anyone with runny nose gets their nation locked for as long as they want. I feel that unless you are completely unable to reach a computer, your alliance has ordered all members not to post in the forums, or you're hands are broken then you should be able to rp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynneth Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 If I can go back to the saved stats thing for a minute. I don’t have a problem with it. There are things going on in CN that most of us have no control over, for instance the recent war devastated a lot of people in cnrp. Believe me the weakened state of some cnrp'ers is something I'd love to take advantage of, but it just wouldn't be fair. As long as you have the proof of your stats before the war then it shouldn't be a problem.In other news, I think this nation locking thing is being taken advantage of. It seems like anyone with runny nose gets their nation locked for as long as they want. I feel that unless you are completely unable to reach a computer, your alliance has ordered all members not to post in the forums, or you're hands are broken then you should be able to rp. While I don't really agree with your view on stats, I fully agree on locking. It should only be used in exceptional cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firestorm Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 The problem I have with saved stats is they allow people to sail along without having to reflect their in game conditions. What's the point of bothering with In game stats if the stats are saved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uberstein Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 I think we should enforce Subtle's thing, where if you're in game stats aren't built back up to your saved stats, you can't go FORWARD. You stay in the same place technology wise and such. No new discoveries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 I think we should enforce Subtle's thing, where if you're in game stats aren't built back up to your saved stats, you can't go FORWARD. You stay in the same place technology wise and such. No new discoveries. I don't make huge technological leaps, so that’s fine with me. One of the drawbacks of rping in real time I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 I think we should enforce Subtle's thing, where if you're in game stats aren't built back up to your saved stats, you can't go FORWARD. You stay in the same place technology wise and such. No new discoveries. I don't make huge technological leaps, so that's fine with me. One of the drawbacks of rping in real time I suppose. What's everyone else's take on this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeVentNoir Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 What's everyone else's take on this? I thought that was how it was now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firestorm Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 I'm against this because it mainly only benefits more advanced nations. Saved stats for smaller nations is pointless. No saving stats.. period.. everyone should suffer and benefit exactly the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 No saving stats.. period.. everyone should suffer and benefit exactly the same. Unless the player is condemned to ZI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykep Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 I thought that was how it was now. Not at all. Unless the player is condemned to ZI. They Should RP disease, famine, death and destruction. This world is too perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 They Should RP disease, famine, death and destruction. This world is too perfect. I'll restate: when a player is sentenced to P/EZI. It's one thing to hit bottom once, but quite another to be at the bottom forever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykep Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 ZI and PZI are two different things. And if you're PZIed for some reason I think you should alot more on your mind than RPing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firestorm Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 If you are condemned to ZI or PZI that is tragic. However, it doesn't mean you have to stop role playing. There are a slew of role plays that don't depend on you being the biggest and most powerful country on the map. I dare say one could even make a stab at character role play. The shock of saying that is somewhat overwhelming. Regardless, being in the situation of PZI or ZI does stink, but the rules shouldn't be changed for anyone. The same standard of in game tech and infra should be applied evenly to all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justinian the Mighty Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 They Should RP disease, famine, death and destruction. This world is too perfect. Coming from a someone who's rp deals a lot with trying to eliminate war. Fortunately for me the ingame war and the cnrp war happened around the same time, but i still saved my stats so i could rp rebuilding to my former stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mykep Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 (edited) Coming from a someone who's rp deals a lot with trying to eliminate war. Fortunately for me the ingame war and the cnrp war happened around the same time, but i still saved my stats so i could rp rebuilding to my former stats. Perfect in the way that none of the listed happened. We have tiny wars and occupation wars, but large wars really dont happen that much. I've RPed war and bombings happening in Central Africa. Also trying to make an RP way to have war planned out before it becomes a mess. Edited June 4, 2009 by mykep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HHAYD Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 It isn't fair for people who are under Eternal/Permanent ZIs. Saved stats should only be used by people who are under E/P ZI, because it isn't fun constantly RPing disasters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasili Markov Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 I RPed the destruction of my nation from the current IG war as a killer plague that decimated my population in CNRP since I could not get in in time to save my stats so I had to RP a series of disasters to explain the death of 98% of my people. And I had great fun doing it and I will have just as much fun explaining the recovery of my nation as I rebuild in CNRP. A hellish run of bad luck will be balanced with a period of charmed good fortune. I like to RP and I can find story potential in any situation be it good or bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centurius Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 It isn't fair for people who are under Eternal/Permanent ZIs. Saved stats should only be used by people who are under E/P ZI, because it isn't fun constantly RPing disasters. PZI is easily solved by re-rolling under a new character. And as said before if you got yourself on PZI or even EZI means you did something very bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Subtleknifewielder Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 I thought that was how it was now. No. With your new tech rules, people can research and make new stuff to their heart's content (so long as it is within their tech range), remember? PZI is easily solved by re-rolling under a new character. And as said before if you got yourself on PZI or even EZI means you did something very bad. Not necessarily. It could just mean you made some enemies very, very mad... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawk11 Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 A long time ago I made the claim that I do not support stat-saves for people who have landed themselves on an alliance's hit-list. Today, I am currently on the world's hit-list, and I still say the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sargun II Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 PZI is easily solved by re-rolling under a new character. And as said before if you got yourself on PZI or even EZI means you did something very bad. "easily solved" by erasing years of hard work and having to come up with a whole new persona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sumeragi Posted June 4, 2009 Report Share Posted June 4, 2009 Here's a thread from long ago on RPing economy. We should restart the discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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