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Shame on you Umbrellans on continuing the wars despite the Olympics Games cease fire.

Zeus rage will bring death and fire on your nations.

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"The Hellenic Soil will be my bed.
The Hellenic Flag will be my sheet.
My dream the freedom of my country."

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[quote name='Alexandros o Megas' timestamp='1343500898' post='3016460']
Shame on you Umbrellans on continuing the wars despite the Olympics Games cease fire.
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We never agreed on a cease fire so....


feel free to surrender whenever though

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[quote name='NationRuler' timestamp='1343510140' post='3016504']
We never agreed on a cease fire so....


feel free to surrender whenever though
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"Live in the sadness of your slavery of fight for your freedom"

I prefer to die fighting than to surrender; I can only accept an honourable peace.

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"The immortal is mortal. The mortal is immortal. The death is immortal life for the mortals. The mortal life is death for the immortals." Heraclitus

Think about these Umbrellans! Change the way you measure the world! Pull the sticks out from your eyes!

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[quote name='Itsuki Koizumi' timestamp='1343329554' post='3015827']
Like seriously, how do you come up with this stuff. Also our mistake to start an immoral war? This entire thread is about you declaring war on us and the consequences of doing so.
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Er, actually, it doesn't look that way:

[url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=111770"]Umbrella Initiates Hostilities Against Hellas with Operation Deliberate Force: June 24, 2012[/url]

[url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=111786"]Hellas Declaration of War on Umbrella: June 25, 2012[/url]

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[quote name='Walshington' timestamp='1343581147' post='3016730']
Er, actually, it doesn't look that way:

[url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=111770"]Umbrella Initiates Hostilities Against Hellas with Operation Deliberate Force: June 24, 2012[/url]

[url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=111786"]Hellas Declaration of War on Umbrella: June 25, 2012[/url]
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Here's a hint: NSO used this thing to get people out of defending them in a war. The second DoW counts.

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[quote name='Walshington' timestamp='1343581147' post='3016730']
Er, actually, it doesn't look that way:

[url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=111770"]Umbrella Initiates Hostilities Against Hellas with Operation Deliberate Force: June 24, 2012[/url]

[url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=111786"]Hellas Declaration of War on Umbrella: June 25, 2012[/url]
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Do n't expect you will ever find your rights with them; they just like to repeat what their boss told them to repeat in forums like a tape recorder.

The only language they understand is the one of the nukes flying on their heads. So Hellas will nuke them :nuke: as long as our last warriors breath and have a finger left to hit the button.

Fight with honour and die with dignity!

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[quote name='Alexandros o Megas' timestamp='1340975716' post='2999961']
Each day they lose each one of them approx. 1350 infra, 1250 land and 355 tech from 1 nuke and 2 cruise missiles or approx. 7075 NS .

So daily damage 7075x3=21225 NS

My losses from now on will be just approx. 400 tech or 2000 NS plus 1000 cheap infra.
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Look at this hero. That's right Umbrella, how foolish of you to fall into his trap. Such idiots for not realizing the getting beat down to having to buy the minimum infra for nukes was his plan all along.

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[quote name='Neo Uruk' timestamp='1343585436' post='3016744']
Here's a hint: NSO used this thing to get people out of defending them in a war. The second DoW counts.
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Not sure what what NSO has to do with it or the history involved in that. I was responding to this statement, regarding the origins of the war:

[quote name='Itsuki Koizumi' timestamp='1343329554' post='3015827']
Also our mistake to start an immoral war? This entire thread is about you [Hellas] declaring war on us and the consequences of doing so.
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Umbella, [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=111770"][color="#4169E1"]in a signed statement on the OWF, opened up hostilities and attacked Hellas[/color][/url]. Or as you yourself put it in that very thread:

[quote name='Neo Uruk' timestamp='1340593612' post='2994970']
Well, he did say he was gonna fight. Just had to kick in his doorstep.
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It seems like after an alliance is attacked, attacking back is a reasonable action.

I suppose I'm not in the loop enough to comment on the "morality" of this war -- for all I know, the Macedonian population was indeed oppressed by the Hellas gov't and you were trying to save them.

But if the question is who started the war, I'd have to say it was the group that "kicked in the doorstep", NOT the person who fought back when their doorstep got kicked in. The second DoW does indeed count, but not as much as the first one.

Maybe there is more to the story than what is written in black and white here on the OWF, but that is all I have to go by.

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[quote name='Walshington' timestamp='1343675384' post='3017051']
-- for all I know, the Macedonian population was indeed oppressed by the Hellas gov't and you were trying to save them.
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As of this:

None "Macedonian" was oppressed by Hellas. I am a Macedonian Greek, while when pseudo-Macedonians have joined Sparta I had simply requested not to be accepted in the Alliance or I would go out and so it happened.

After 1623 days (all till that moment in game with Sparta) I preferred to leave Sparta than to co-exist with fake "Macedonians". As Alexandros o Megas (ruler of my nation) refers to the well known in English Alexander the Great and Hellenic Macedonia I could not accept the provocation.

There was no oppression but a simple choice: Stay and maybe in the future needing to defend a pseudo-Macedonian or leave? I preferred to leave.

My departure had nothing to do with current conflicts.

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[quote name='Alexandros o Megas' timestamp='1343676041' post='3017053']
As of this:

None "Macedonian" was oppressed by Hellas. I am a Macedonian Greek, while when pseudo-Macedonians have joined Sparta I had simply requested not to be accepted in the Alliance or I would go out and so it happened.

After 1623 days (all till that moment in game with Sparta) I preferred to leave Sparta than to co-exist with fake "Macedonians". As Alexandros o Megas (ruler of my nation) refers to the well known in English Alexander the Great and Hellenic Macedonia I could not accept the provocation.

There was no oppression but a simple choice: Stay and maybe in the future needing to defend a pseudo-Macedonian or leave? I preferred to leave.

My departure had nothing to do with current conflicts.
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:o !!!! GASP!

If what you say is true... then it must mean that Umbrella [i][b]wasn't[/b][/i] really concerned about the plight of the Macedonians? That their umbrage was manufactured to advance a CB that was essentially an excuse to start a war?

Shocked. I am shocked and sickened by this revelation. What the hell do I do with all the FREE MACEDONIA bumper stickers I ordered?

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[quote name='Alexandros o Megas' timestamp='1340813585' post='2998407']
What Umbralla targeted:

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[quote name='white majik' timestamp='1340831005' post='2998650']
Almighty roq, who should we have declared on then? We have more targets now then we have had in the past 2 years. Please explain how you would have gotten us a better war.
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[quote name='untouchable' timestamp='1341381804' post='3003242']
Alexandros o Megas I feel for you.you have not committed any crimes against umbrella that' I know of but yet they continue to attack you. Knowing you are unable to defend yourself. Very sad day I used to consider umbrella one of the finest alliances in the game. Good luck hopefully umbrella will have mercy on you considering you are unable to defend yourself. I will not comment any more. And i mean no disrespect to anyone.But Alexandros o Megas left Sparta to create a new alliance what is so wrong with that?That he must be destroyed?Good luck to all involved.Umbrella show mercy because you are better than that.
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[quote name='Alexandros o Megas' timestamp='1342184676' post='3009674']
When assimilation and attraction to their religion did not work:

"To: Alexandros o Megas From: CubaQuerida Date: 6/25/2012 12:18:26 AM

Subject: Good luck sir
Message: I bid you good fortune in this war. We are very well matched, skill-wise, I'm sure. I understand we are all prepared to die for our nations, and we shall see it done!

I am a fan of your playstyle, and I like your bio. Hopefully we will be teammates in the next war!

Cheers,

Cuba"

Then the umbrellas forget religion, morality, even that this a game and pretend they fight, but in an non-honorable war! History of Planet Bob will never forget this for their pitiful alliance.
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I think the above show their motives and real reasons for these wars against the newly born Hellas!

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[quote name='Alexandros o Megas' timestamp='1343676041' post='3017053']
There was no oppression but a simple choice: Stay and maybe in the future needing to defend a pseudo-Macedonian or leave? I preferred to leave.
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Running away from a war and leaving your mates behind to face the music, eh? This [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIJzsF8mn9I"]ditty[/url] seems to be somewhat appropriate at this juncture...

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[quote name='Walshington' timestamp='1343675384' post='3017051']
Not sure what what NSO has to do with it or the history involved in that. I was responding to this statement, regarding the origins of the war:[/quote]
You can't be dense enough to actually think precedent doesn't matter at all?


[quote]Umbella, [url="http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=111770"][color="#4169E1"]in a signed statement on the OWF, opened up hostilities and attacked Hellas[/color][/url]. Or as you yourself put it in that very thread:



It seems like after an alliance is attacked, attacking back is a reasonable action.
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You're really not doing yourself any favors. Alexandros o Megas stated he would defend Sparta. Intent to attack Umbrella was there, or he was deserting.

[quote name='Starfox101' timestamp='1343677194' post='3017055']
Don't be dense.

You look like a fool.
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I really don't.

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[quote name='NationRuler' timestamp='1343703040' post='3017156']
This is one of the most annoying threads ever.



Umbrella didn't set out to do this 'morally', so arguments to that effect are futile.

Nobody cares to read your posts, Alex.

Please let this thread die
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Even if this thread die ...

Even if my nation die ...

Ideas do not die!

Values do not die!

Sacrifices and examples are not forgotten!

Hellas torch will eternally shine to remind people that "it is better one hour of freedom than forty years of slavery and prison"!

Umbrellans:"What? Does he want to be free? Kill him!"

Hellas: "You can kill my body but not my soul! I am free, fighting with honour and ready to die with dignity!"

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[quote name='NationRuler' timestamp='1343703040' post='3017156']

Please let this thread die
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Wait, what? NO!

This thread gives me the will and power to keep redeclaring on him. Keep it for the good moral and entertainment of my troops.


Alex, dont listen to these meanies, you keep doing what you are sweetie.

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[quote name='King Chill I' timestamp='1343741083' post='3017266']
Wait, what? NO!

This thread gives me the will and power to keep redeclaring on him. Keep it for the good moral and entertainment of my troops.


Alex, dont listen to these meanies, you keep doing what you are sweetie.
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Sure I do! I enjoy to offer you anarchy (when I decide to spend my nukes on you and not on some more worthy opponent / sorry man).

"A man who sacrifices his freedom for safety, he is not worthy neither for the safety not for the freedom" Aristotle

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