Both of which are very heavily tied into groups like TOOL. It would be pretty foolish to assert that if TOOL or someone else on white (probably short of STA) were hit that most of white, including those alliances, would support their comrades on the team. One doesn't have to be tied into absolutely everyone else on a team to become essentially an extended part of the unity/MDP ties of that team. Hell, I quite like Argent (TGE, not so much, but we can't win them all).
I'm sad to see that my allies in FOK consider posting trying to stir things up without first trying to either clear things in public channels or asking for clarification when some appears to be needed.