Rayvon

He's saying you said a really stupid fucking thing, and it doesn't matter what forum it was in - it was a VERY OOC comment, and can only be viewed as such ... And to play the victim card over and over and over mixed with this clueless ignoramaus attitude just reinforces that whatever you say is you regardless of what you hide behind .... YOU SAID THE WORDS .. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM .. Not "Rotavele" or "Beauty" or anyone, that was not an IC comment in any way shape or form .... ANd coupled with your piss-poor history of crossing the line, you have zero credibility .... You are bust ....

Wow - even in vocal still can't resist that trail-off cry about Rey "escaping reps" .. lol

And you support my words with every word you post here in this post.

And it was started by you ... You made yourself the subject by the very nature of being the OP (much like how Rey was a bad choice for the other thread against you) .. No matter how much you try, unless you step back and really make an effort NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE. You are you. Whether "Rota" or "Beauty" you are you and you put you into both of them ..... You need less you in your characters if you want to make the distinction and rag on others for lacking distinction ...

You didn't do a good job "creating a secret", and you have not acted different as Beauty from Rotavele no matter how much you cry it ..

T'was inevitable, can only be pushed so much - and some folks can't stop pushing .. o/ RIA

Pick a roll and ride it dry? IRONs looking pretty plump - perhaps it's a sign :p

Oh indeed lol .. A a perfect storm of chaos and order :awesome:

A few times you've mentioned secrecy in 'beauty' a couple times .. "I relayed to Val and Invicta who I was in private and asked for it to be kept quiet even if rejected. No idea who released it originally" You realize your name change request succeeded in this ... No one else is to really blame if it's "known" that Beaty is Rota when it was on public display ... As said, if you wanted a true go at a re-roll instead of this bullshit then you would have done it quietly ... new nation, NEW forum account, new attitude, new personality ... Changing a books cover or title doesn't change the story.. If 'Rota' is suchan IC personality different from your OOC self, then it should be zero trouble pretending to be someone else ... Try again with effort next time ...

There's no one single person who can 'unite the Orders' ....... Just saying .... Pipe dream y'all .... If we all ever come together, it's going to require a large effort that one single person can not accomplish. There's several distinct issues standing in between each, and it would require concerted efforts within each membership that no single person would be able to audience ...

Not sure what you see. I was just teasing.

Article 3 is quite offensive. How dare you use such language. There's children here. :mellow:

Do you lift?

Yep alright. Im the only one here capable of error and misunderstand/missing certain points that I never had been privvy to. I'm just such a god-awful member of this community for taking part in conversations to help improve things. I'm such a god-awful person for trying to suggest that these open witch hunt threads aren't helpful and perpetuate the problem we all want to see fixed. Judge, jury and executioner? No one claimed as such Jerdge. The discussion and purpose of this thead is of such a nature. Starfox had to bring the Oya baby thing into here, suggesting that he say Oya take the same fate - his words kinda helped give the impression of that post too. But alas, I no longer care. OOC away, enjoy yourselves, wish death and malice upon whichever human being you all feel and deem fit - the community, Jerdge and Starfox will ensure this apparently - allow it ... AS LONG AS THEY'RE EX-MK. And continue !@#$%* and chew anyone who agrees with you but offers a different view. I really don't give a $%&@. This ooc !@#$%^&* is why I quit playing and just got grumpy. Cheers !@#$%*es. edit: And Starfox, I wasn't suggesting I would try to purge you .. Do keep up, and keep the politics out of this. Ultimately we're in agreeance here and want to see the same thing in the end, you just can't keep consistent on your message where I am trying. You helped make my point for me.

Do you feel like you scored a point with anyone with that? Here, let me help you out. If my post was OOC by way of 'real name' towards Rota by using the Rota character name, then all your references of "your" accomplishments as Junkalunka et al are just as OOC. They are not about Tywin Lannister, they are about your other personalities. You are perpetuating the IC/OOC with every post you, Tywin Lannister, claim to be anything Junkalunka was. I really hope you understand what Schattenman is talking about. And what Starfox is talking about, those references to yourself in the OOC manner are entirely deplorable and you must be removed from the game as well for such heinous and disgusting OOC remarks - because all OOC remarks are the same. And now I must as well.

Lol Where have i used his real name? I don't even know it. What are you even on about now?

Yeah Rota, you are confused. Putting an end to the bullshit is exactly not perpetuating it. Open threads of rage perpetuate the divide. Handling the situations in quieter ways than these public witch hunts is still handling the situations and maintaining our lines.

So you want a witch hunt - this can easily be arranged. But - this means you and I must also be purged. You and I have also admitted within the confines of this thread of being guilty of an occurrence or two. Is what you admitted to 'comparable' to telling someone their friend deserved to be killed? Or was it a 'lesser OOC infraction'? The difference is in bold. Oya made a distasteful comment - but like you and I, it isn't an on-going and unapologetic or even proud common occurrence. It's not something worth creating a public huzzah about. There's better venue's to chase down and deal with such situations rather than creating a public frenzy in this fashion for every single infraction and insisting each and every person be chased down by the entire public at large. Insisting each and everyone be chased down by creating a thread [or bumping an almost dead thread to link back to another thread] is just perpetuating the IC/OOC divide. No one's condoning or saying Oyah is ok for what he said .....

To be fair, he didn't [i]defend[/i] the comment -- he just said one is not comparable to the other .. Which is quite true ... :| But do we need to be trying to perpetuate more OOC/IC crossing? The thread was dead for a couple days.

The pony is symbolic of Carpe Diem, it was incorporated into our image as the alliance was incorporated into us. It is an hommage to the memory of the alliance that is now intricate to us -- one of which our Empress was a leader of many moons ago as well .. Edit: the sig, inspired during my sunday morning cartoons - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xr37BJA3cLI

Yeah - all our allies are jokes .. We should stop thinking of ways to honour them, especially when they become a part of us. All they were is nothing, all that matters is now. o/ THE Order

Very nice flag - who did it?

I thought it was the ignorance of his writing style .. Granted, i suppose ignorance is part of his 'charm' .. You got it there ..

It's about time you changed your tune. No, my issues with VE are something entirely different [ooc - into unwelcome OoC boundries between Goldie and I] .. Doesn't have any relevance or require re-hashing ..

You were a nation that followed Ivan after he founded it. That doesn't make you a founding nation. That makes you a nation that followed him there after it was founded. I don't see what's so difficult to understand. Do you have such a complex you just need to self-import so much?