Charles the Tyrant

If he stays can you go?

I hereby resurrect the Society of the Brotherhood and appoint myself as the rightful ruler. All these who oppose me shall bend the knee or be destroyed.

I believe the German army units that used this symbol were appropriately punished already.

I know you are just trolling but for the sake of everyone else I have underlined the relevant part of my initial post. However yes, I would state that if a group or organisation appeared to be influenced heavily by nationalism, particularly Germanic Nationalism, had symbols used by SS units and had a history of actual members being Nazis then I would naturally assume that they are Nazi, Neo-Nazi or at the very least racist.

If the special olympics had a 100m fail sprint I am sure you would set records.

The person or persons with the most pixels at the end of a war or cause as you call it is usually the winner. Fight smart and win.

Got made a fool of by Kaskus :P

Can't say I blame Norway. An alliance in a game talks about European Nationalism, it had a heavily Germanic influence in regards to its internal culture and additionally had numerous actual Nazis and Neo-Nazis within its ranks (if you weren't here in 06 and 07 then you wouldn't know). On top of that they had and still have a symbol/rune on their flag that was used by a few SS units during WWII which is still used today by various Neo-Nazi organisations. Indeed, the rune in question is still prohibited within modern Germany if it appears to be being used in connection with a context suggestive of Nazism. (German Criminal code section 86 I think?). So yeah, If I was a Norwegian politician I probably would have been fooled too ;)

You needed a reason to keep the likes of Tywin out? :P

Using a federation to benefit yourself at the detriment of others within the federation goes against the spirit of the federation itself.

Heh you knew what I meant. Achieving goals that only benefitted one party within the federation instead of the whole federation benefiting.

A few of us, myself included tried an idea similar to this back in 07 and it didn't get off the ground. Primary concern was that some alliances might have more influence than others and would use the Federation to achieve their own goals. Truth be told in CN I think an imperial federation would be the better way to go anyway.

Complete nonsense and pish. Coalitions are held together by common interests. Even during WuT, Q, CnG/SF and the current era no coalition whatsoever has been held together by a shared ideology. Coalitions change based on the common interests shared by the coalition's members.

Would be a desperate AA to poach you.

Going to have to pull out. Sorry for the mess around, circle in my alliance has an opening.

I an fine with whatever.

I am on pink currently, can change team and change resources immediately if there are any vacancies remaining.

I am on pink currently, can change team and change resources immediately if there are any vacancies remaining.

Seeking a trade circle Nation: Imperial Vengeance Ruler: Charles the Tyrant Link: http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=546620 On pink currently, can change team and change resources immediately.

Didn't you know? Tywin created the entire plan.

Cuba is a sand worm?

You I hate to break it to you but you aren't Fidel and you certainly aren't Che.

More vegetables and less trout is my advice.

Going to have to agree with Amossio and offer LoSS my congratulations.

An additional advantage in having a larger and better equipped upper tier is that often the enemy upper tier will enter PM to prevent having their upper tier lost in what would be a lost cause anyway. This allows the upper tier remaining in warmode the ability to aid bomb the various nations in the lower tiers requiring aid on a constant and long term basis. This was proven up until recently by the example in a few conflicts of umbrella being able to aid GOONS with Umbrella rarely having any serious issues of their own within their own NS ranges to bother about. This was proven particularly so in the DH-NPO war a few years back when even though the NPO lower and middle tier nations were mostly better equipped and possessed larger warchests, the constant supply of aid sent to GOONS from Umbrella allowed GOONS to wear the lower and middle tiers of NPO down until defeat was all but inevitable and this was due in part to the lack of aid being able to be sent to these middle and lower tier nations from the upper tier nations who were mostly stuck in PM. So in short, having a large upper tier in comparison to other alliances isn't merely just the possession of a tier able to destroy enemy rations within direct range, it's a tool that can indirectly secure victory on other fronts and NS ranges too. That I believe is the main benefit to be derived since once the enemy's upper tier is relegated to PM you have robbed the enemy of being able to send aid to their members in need to a large extent. Yes, every alliance, some more than others have a substantial amount of their members in possession of large amounts of surplus cash ready to aid others but being able to prevent an alliance from being able to send aid on a constant and complete basis will in turn impact on an alliance's ability to fight.