Grumpdogg

So NPO declared war as a pre-emptive strike against Karma?

"If you're not with us you're against us" at it's very best... You know you're allowed to NOT be treatied with someone AND also NOT want to fight them?

They are their own because they been accepted into the community. Ok I give up. You obviously can not comprehend the nature of a community, or you have an agenda. In my opinion, Vladimir can sleep soundly tonight without fear of an usurper.

The grievances of the community belong to the whole community. Have you never been a part of a community? The idea seems foreign to you. It mainly involves friendship and empathy.

That's exactly what you said.

Seems like a pretty large assumption on which to base an argument. Essentially you are arguing that Karma went to war for revenge, but that revenge was not justified as the majority of the member nations of Karma were not the recipients of the prior actions. Pretty clearly this fails to acknowledge the possibility that member nations may become a part of the community of the alliance they join, not just the AA. Having sought membership of the community through service to the alliance, they would in turn be granted acceptance by the existing members. The new member then has a right to claim ownership of the community's actions, whether they be "yay we reached 4milllion NS" or "man I hate ABC because they rolled us last year". They have that right because the community shared it with them. You have no business in deciding who may feel the collective pains or joys of their respective communities. If a member nation within Karma wishes to extract revenge on the NPO because the NPO wronged their friend before they met, then so be it. I wish you luck in solving most of the RL world's conflicts by telling current generations they have no stake in the past because they weren't there.

What percentage of current GATO members were not present for the GATO-1V war?

o/ our friends in STA and special o7 to Bzelger, Thaone, Reiffenstein and TheGodFarther. Good to see your strength continue to grow despite the recruiting freeze.

Only $1 billion for the Radiation Mitigation Fee? Outrageous! The GRL was through the roof for weeks!

o/ fat little tigers Onwards to 5 million!

o/ our friends in IAA o/ NpO too I guess

I'm hardly Anti-NPO, if anything post Karma-War I've had my 'naive hat' on. I had hopes that you guys would make changes like we did, and become a better alliance for it. However, here is another thread where there's denial, and outright dismissal of other people's views of Pacifica. A fresh start can only begin after acceptance. My attitude towards Pacifica these days is "I'm losing hope that they have learnt a lesson and changed like we did after GPWII". This thread has futher reduced my hopes of seeing meaningful change. Feel free to drop by our forums if you wish to see if that attitude is widespread. I really hope you guys can find something other than resentment and revenge to fuel your rebuilding efforts, because that road leads futher and further away from Polaris. The "cutesy" smilie is the closest they have to a grimace. I shall use :\ from now on. EDIT: On topc - there are always lulz before the storm, now's the time to buy an umbrella.

Man I'm glad this thread has: *Viceroys are good mmk *NPO didn't start the Karma War *You could easily have not been treatied to the Hegemony if you didn't want to be It's just like nothing has happened

Holy lols that 5th paragraph makes me (lol?) glad I strictly enforce English language lessons upon my subjects. Also, I don't hold out much hope that any absence of announcements from RyanGDI would be anything but brief.

Grumpdogg of Gomdor http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=264012 3mil sent to United Osia

Grumpdogg of Gomdor http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_d...ation_ID=264012 3 mil sent to michael1874

Aid sent

I hope he enjoys ZI...again. I hope you can sort out your communications issues quickly and get back to normality soon CG.

o/ TIO o/ MCXA o/ A future full of possibility

Congrats on the treaty. [OOC]After the nice IC DoE, I was expecting a bit more of the same here :'( Has the mobster theme been forgotten already?[/OOC]

Haroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! o/ WOLF brethren A pack that hunts together, feasts together...

NpO are cool...ice cool.

I voted for Abortion Disco on the non-existent poll.

Keeps you regular?

OMG SECRET TERMS! PS: You really didn't have any obligation to tell anyone other than NPO how much you were to be paid, but I guess there's no point feeding the trolls. I hope you can buy some shiny new infra to replace that which was lost I can't wait for your terms to end so you guys can join Frostbite and Blunity, and then we can turn Blunity into some massive MADP Bloc and go and blow up all the haters...oh wait.