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[quote name='erikz' timestamp='1299095379' post='2649827'] I have offered to pay half of the reps earlier. [/quote] It's no fun if the only person that have consistently been against reps reply I was hoping for one of the ones that change their moral stance between threads. While the terms specify that the reps need to come from KoH members nothing is stopping you from sending the money to KoH though.

There's isn't any "no outside aid" term. If all you people that's outraged over how much this [b]massive[/b] amount of reps will hurt little KoH just send them 3m you can probably give them enough to pay these reps in one round. Unless you're in peacemode of course (hi npo) or if your strong feelings on this matter isn't worth 3m and a aid slot.

[quote name='Kilkenny' timestamp='1298218753' post='2639508'] But they didn't jump in on NPO...leaving them still winning [/quote] They'll take some of the heat off so I can focus on NPO targets. Well.. I would do that but there's nobody left in my range anymore.

[quote name='Roi Loup' timestamp='1298217276' post='2639494'] jumping into an overcrowded front to fight a completely one-sided war doesnt make you seem honorable. it seems cowardly to me. [/quote] Overcrowded? NPO have explained to me that they're winning this. We need all the help we can get.

[quote name='Alterego' timestamp='1298194101' post='2639339'] Dont pretend its the outburst you didnt like. Its the backlash you dont like. CSN, you are the new WAE. Xiphosis and liz made you look like chumps [/quote] Swing and a miss. Have you paid the referee? I'm pretty sure you had more than three strikes by now. also inb4 edit.

[quote name='Haflinger' timestamp='1298134513' post='2638450'] With 22 more currently over 20 days inactive. Yeahhhh. [/quote] Since this is apparently a very important statistic I'm happy to announce that the forces opposing goons have 43 over 20 days. Almost double. Good job.

SoSb have ignored this treaty on at least two occasions. They openly supported the people hitting int here on owf and they then proceeded to sign a treaty with an alliance that tie them directly to a power bloc opposing int. Now of course these things are fully within SoSbs right to do as a sovereign alliance but can we please stop acting like we're shocked that it lead to int cancelling the treaty? Because that wasn't really a big surprise and it doesn't reflect bad on int no matter how much you people try to spin it. The things said between int and SoSb that the later leaked doesn't make int look bad either, the fact that it was leaked makes me think this was a great decision though. A footnote for those arguing that no SoSb gov have commented on this, I think Arrnea (sp?) would count as gov since he is their leader on paper at least.

Not sure if it has been mentioned but I found the norway incident to be among the funniest things.

Wow UINE you have become [i]the monster[/i] that you fought.

[quote name='Batallion' timestamp='1297538366' post='2630502'] TOOL are some epic warriors [/quote] I don't think even TOOL believe this is true. edit: Exactly which parties are defending or attacking is very important and we should spend the next 5 pages discussing it. There needs to be several uses of "defensive declaration of war" and "aggressive defense".

[quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1297524790' post='2630337'] Its as if you are [i]trying[/i] to make sure MK loses the next war. Keep going mate. [/quote] Has he been bugging you about a MCXA - MK treaty too?

Invicta and sos? Seems about right.

[quote name='mhawk' timestamp='1296847032' post='2619436'] Never ever talk about the relation TPF holds with ML when you don't even know a founding member of ML. [/quote] He was actually talking about duckrolls support of this attack by ML. Unless I missed when TPF joined DR your response doesn't make a lot of sense.

[quote name='Jaiar' timestamp='1296796633' post='2618921'] You are channeling Sardonic now. You can't handle business yourself, but your scary allies will. [/quote] I know critical reading is a course the NPO academy had to cut back on quite a bit due to the cost from our last glorious encounter but that is not actually what I said. Try again.

[quote name='Jaiar' timestamp='1296795926' post='2618908'] So they told you "We are not declaring because we think we can avoid a counter this way?" I doubt it. Most likely they are using the same logic your side used in entering this war. Your buddies in FAN never posted a DoW. By your logic, FAN didn't post a DoW on us (NPO) because they were trying t avoid a counter. ML's DoWs were posted [url="http://www.cybernations.net/search_wars.asp?searchstring=Declaring_Alliance%2CReceiving_Alliance&search=Molon%20Labe&anyallexact=exact"]HERE[/url] beginning on February 2. FAN posted their DoWs the same way. Your logic is amazing. They are spineless for not posting words, but are in fact engaged and putting their nations at risk. It can't be both ways. [/quote] FAN didn't try to hide the fact that they were at war. ML did. You can try to brush off those facts all you want but they look like a bunch of cowards to me. As I said before I don't blame them for trying to hide and cover. We got scary allies. Allies I don't doubt will see through MLs spineless charades. I'll enjoy seeing these wimps crumble.

[quote name='Jaiar' timestamp='1296791527' post='2618751'] Most likely they were joking with the jokers. MK and Umbrella have no sense of humor? ML has no reason to deal with you all in a straight up manner regarding this war. You're membership's attempts to cast this as ML initiating attacks is wrong. The only reason any attacks are being made is because of your initial attack on Pacifica. Any attacks upon your alliances are justified and defensive. [/quote] I'm not saying they're not justified in attacking us. Nobody is saying that. Go easy on that poor strawman now. He's all beaten up already. What I was saying was that ML didn't have the spine to make an actual DoW since they think they can avoid a counter this way. Time will tell if they're right.

[quote name='Caliph' timestamp='1296789681' post='2618642'] I'm not, brah. I'm just saying you hating on ML for not posting a DOW, wheres equal hate for FAN for doing the same thing? Or, for that matter, your attacks on TPF with no DOW either? [/quote] You get me all wrong dawg. I'm not hatin' on not posting dows I'm poking fun at ML for the reason they didn't. Spinelessness is always fun to point out.

[quote name='Caliph' timestamp='1296789180' post='2618620'] Only if you consider FAN part of such a club for their attacks without a DOW on NPO. Unless I missed it ... [/quote] Are you implying that FAN tried to hide their involvement in the attacks on NPO? that's plain ignorant dawg

[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1296788991' post='2618605'] VE did it first when they didn't make a DoW on KoH, well they did but it was hidden. [/quote] They did make one but the main difference is that in that case it was based on KoH not really being of any significance for anyone in this case ML was scared !@#$less of the counter. I can't blame them. We got scary allies.

To be fair I wouldn't have dared to actually make a DoW against us or umb if I was ML either. Can I join ML in the spineless club?

Oh god have you ever head of tl;dr? I can't read all that. also you're pretty fast, this is why democracy just gets in the way during war

[quote name='Ragashingo' timestamp='1296710264' post='2617150'] They have been a drastically different alliance since the Karma War. This is a change. [/quote] No they have been paying lip service. The only change I could agree that they've undergone is that they're powerless to actually do what they did before at the moment. That's more of a change outside of their alliance though. [quote name='Ragashingo' timestamp='1296710264' post='2617150'] Careful with those quote marks. No one said several years. [/quote] My bad. Could you explain where the couple of years came from then? That would still place the change well before karma. [quote name='Ragashingo' timestamp='1296710264' post='2617150'] Says the person that can't even admit that the NPO's behavior post-Karma was drastically different than pre-Karma... [/quote] I'm not claiming that my view on this is any kind of objective truth so I don't see your point here. You might want to join Heft at the library if you thought you actually made a valid point there.

Objection! Hearsay.

Good work, horrible color scheme

[quote name='Ragashingo' timestamp='1296706212' post='2616972'] A change is a change whether it is forced or not. I think it would be easier to debate the NPO's possible relapse if we could get out of this mindset that what they did for the past couple of years wasn't a change from their previous behaviors. [/quote] I'm not saying they've forced a change though. I'm saying that they're paying lip service. As for the "several years" I'm not sure where you place the start of this change you can apparently see. Did it start a year or two before karma? [quote name='Heft' timestamp='1296705951' post='2616964'] You really have a hard time dealing with a reality that isn't what you want to see, don't you? [/quote] I think you might need to look up the word "objective" somewhere. I suggest a thesaurus.