Buds The Man

[quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1340652294' post='2996092'] LOL you should learn how to make better posts. Anyway, I don't think you'll see the Kingdom shy away from anything it's done. Keep proving me right though. :> [/quote] My posts are just fine. If you dont like them that is just a bonus. We all get called to the carpet eventually.

[quote name='pd73bassman' timestamp='1340596824' post='2995129'] I really do hope you get the beating that you have coming to you finally Destroy them NG [/quote] They took a beating not so long ago my friend. Though to be fair from your perspective and history this would be deserved. [quote name='King Death II' timestamp='1340597036' post='2995155'] Thank GOD, SF isnt totally useless after all. Only took you a week. [/quote] What is that LSF called shh tell them Im not here. [quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1340628451' post='2995778'] How amusing. I'm afraid pretty speeches won't make people forget your actions of days past. [/quote] LOL i should save this for a quote. [quote name='Bill Wallace' timestamp='1340630534' post='2995794'] For everyone who thinks they see hypocrisy or BS or whatever in the OP, don't you dare forget that this whole thing is about Dave. [/quote] dammit now im agreeing with Bill Wallace what is this world comming to. I like both AAs here so i will simply wish casualties for all.

taking on the tough ones i see

[quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1340412227' post='2993039'] Yes because my cooking skills have any effect on my posting. If you can't see that not being able to spell correctly in your posts makes you seem dumb, then like I said before, there's no helping you. As for the rest, you are creating your own narrative. Again, I didn't say Hal speaks for Valhalla, you dumbass. I said that what he said is in line with how Valhalla thinks. Not that he is making an official statement. Can you understand that? And yes, I don't like Valhalla. If you have some evidence that our gov thinks the same way, like I do with yours and Hal, then you might have a point. If you don't, then it's pretty clear you're desperately grasping at straws. [/quote] His point still stands. WC why dont you ask Rush why I was posting in this thread he and I had a long talk about it. You want to come out here and create a boogey man out of DR and Val for the future. OHH my Val wants CnG. Thats your arugument in a nutshell. We all know what MKs agenda is and im pretty sure Val or a direct ally is pretty high on said list. So be it. Once again your argument is with out any solid basis and your simply trying to make Val look like a boogey man to CnG.

I will Echo Delta on not now. AVT always enjoyed your comments and you sir will be sorely missed. I say this as I approach my 5 years as well.

[quote name='Rush Sykes' timestamp='1340217948' post='2990354'] Oh.. so since GOD and NPL sit on the sidelines.. and are saying nothing... they are somehow less troll fodder. Ive never been a fan of prodding allies who have to make decisions about whether to defend allies, but the pre-occupation with what INT might or might not do, is 100% only in existence because it serves the political agenda of certain people to poke and prod at them. [/quote] Rush my calling out of INT is specific to the fact that many of them poked and prodded an ally and were backing up LSFs play all the way up to the actual hammer dropping. High ranking .gov of INT have thrown in support all around for LSFs antics and that sir is why I personally am so on about this. Dont go in to a bar and tell your friend you got his back then when he gets punched in the nose hide behind the juke box. IF INT wanted to be a true friend they should have held back LSF. I know plenty of times in back channels where this has had to be done. In MJ we had to do it a couple of times and I know back in the early CnG days it was done as well. GOD and NPL are doing what ever right now should they be in probably very true but im not in that coalition channel to understand what their strategy is. Difference is neither of those AAs were out prodding a bear and ran when it woke up.

[quote name='Delta1212' timestamp='1340218198' post='2990360'] Well obviously, because who doesnt defend allies with their military? [/quote] Fixed that for you delta

[quote name='Illustrious' timestamp='1340217100' post='2990339'] Really? You couldn't have taken a minute out of your time and instead of posting this check his AA and find out that he is telling the truth? As for the topic on hand, to me it looks like IRON wanted a shot at LSF anyways and LSF made it easier for them. [/quote] What really why would Iron want anything from LSF. LSF is already getting killed by NoR. If anyone wanted something it had to be LSF trying to stir the pot.

[quote name='Ayatollah Bromeini' timestamp='1340216025' post='2990306'] He accepted it? That's not what the OP says (Re: " no apology "). LSF isn't the most forum active bunch, so to expect them to demask him asap is a bit much (he did leave the AA, btw). What was the big rush on the reps? LSF agreed to pay the reps. [i]We[/i] even agreed to pay them for them, but apparently they didn't come in fast enough. So here we are. Of course you're going to defend your ally here, but come on. [/quote] http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=111638&view=findpost&p=2989330 <<< was what i was basing the apology accepted on. Didnt realize how clever the folks at LSF were in their hidden message. If it were me as their ally I would have at least set up a schedule quickly 200 tech is nothing but 4 slots easy to pay. Considering the amount of IRC activity LSF has had you would think as an anarchist alliance one of them should have forum admin to demask someone. The excuses for them just dont have any weight period. They screwed the pooch and deserve what is comming to them.

[quote name='Hereno' timestamp='1340215800' post='2990295'] The apology was posted less than 24 hours ago. Opti was off the AA before this DoW ever happened, regardless of if an Admin got around to demasking him. Sabcat tried to contact MCRABT to send tech a few hours ago but was promptly ignored. It is extremely obvious that IRON is taking advantage of LSF's current political and military situation, whether that is to further other goals, or merely because they're butthurt over what amounts to nothing. [/quote] You are right it hasnt been 24 hours yet from the apology. My point still stands this has been on going for longer than that and a demask and first run of tech could have already been sent out if this was to be settled.

[quote name='Ayatollah Bromeini' timestamp='1340215371' post='2990283'] Oh so LSF wasn't [i]sincere[/i] enough. I see now, thanks for clearing that up. Your wit never ceases to amaze me. [/quote] LOL WHAT. Apology written, Rab accepts it. It was a crappy one but Rab was ready to move on. What 24-48 hours later no tech sent and the guy hasnt been demasked yet either. Come on man you cant be this dense. If you truly wanted to help LSF you would have stayed on top of them to get it done or as a competent ally done it yourself. Also no where in my post did I even comment how in sincere the apology was. Ive never been good with meme does a U MAD fit here?

[quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1340214797' post='2990271'] Whelp, I've agreed with Bud. This isn't good. [/quote] Shows your taste is finally improving

[quote name='Ayatollah Bromeini' timestamp='1340213898' post='2990238'] You couldn't !@#$@#$ hold off for at least 24 hours? You had to have your 200 tech for this [i]right now[/i] over something that should have never required more than a simple apology? Fantastic. Mother !@#$@#$ fantastic. [/quote] [quote name='Ayatollah Bromeini' timestamp='1340214139' post='2990245'] Was it dumb to impersonate a gov member of another alliance to try and incite a war? Absolutely. Does that entail 200 tech, expulsion (this member had been expelled btw, just not demasked), and an apology? And because the apology was half assed and the reps were late, this now blows up. Real fair. [/quote] OH MY GOD dude you win for post of the day. Your BLOC is supporting MK in the war on CSN and SF and you call this unfair. OH STOP the IRONY is killing me. This situation is what 3 days old now. It could have been handled in a day. If LSF was sincere it would have been done in a day. Demasking takes what 2 min top. As soon as !@#$ was agreed upon it should have been done first. If you so upset by it go ahead and put your nation where your mouth is. You have been LSFs most vocal supporter through all of this whether it be the NoR situation or this.

[quote name='TRON IX' timestamp='1340213655' post='2990225'] I am here to tell you that you are wrong. I do not agree with ChairmanHal's statement and it is downright hysterical to watch people claim to be omnicient of Valhalla gov's views. A quick check of my post count vs the fact that I've been high gov in Valhalla for over 5 years indicates that I am not very forthcoming with my views. This is by design. It's quite entertaining and a very advantageous that I don't spew forth how I think to the belligerent idiots here. It gives me the advantage of being underestimated. I like it that way. I think I'll keep it that way. You go right ahead and keep pretending that you know me. It's apparent that you have enough ignorant friends who will believe you. The cold hard truth is.. You are wrong. -Tron(geddit?)ix [/quote] There you go WC an official statement that reflects what Valhalla feels. o/ Tron(gottit)ix

[quote name='nutkase' timestamp='1340211791' post='2990140'] Anarchists with democratic processes? Classy After reading what happened, and this topic. I would push that big red button. [/quote] Take a look in the Alliance forums. LOL LSF you poor anarchist.

Quack Quack my brothers

[quote name='Mogar' timestamp='1340210562' post='2990120'] merging alliances makes fighting a war kinda difficult, I think a few DR alliances are more focused on ensuring they are in a good internal position to be fighting a war. [/quote] DR is and always has been ready to go at the drop of a dime. Your analysis is wrong Mogar.

[quote name='Comrade Craig' timestamp='1340157549' post='2989548'] I'm personally offended by the LSF's behavior in this affair, because it feels like a slap in the face after everything they've put INT through. We busted our ass to broker something for them, and they respond with this garbage. $%&@ them. But alas, this is also about IRON's royal family and its belief that it should be immune from ridicule. Some dumb kids made fun of IRON gov on IRC by doing a terrible and unserious parody, and we find ourselves here. IRON gov isn't this vain, nor this petty. No one really believes that this IRC stunt was anything except playful foolishness. This move from IRON can be interpreted only as an intentional provocation and escalation. If this thread had contained a heartfelt and genuine apology (accompanied by whatever other concessions were demanded), Valhalla woulds just show up in a few days with a new manufactured CB. If anyone wants a piece of me, just click the damn link in my signature already. Why torture the sad little anarchists? We all know they're not the target. -Craig [/quote] You know isnt that typical you go around flicking NoRs ears and playing right along with LSF untill the !@#$ hits the fan and then claim the victim here. LSF has messed with NoR a MDOAP partner then messed with IRON as well of course were not happy but dont give yourself that much credit that we would waste a manufactured CB on you. Your just not that important.

HB is great love me some Mila and AT yet i find this treaty makes me sad.

LOL is all i can do here. Anarchist my foot.

[quote name='potato' timestamp='1339976126' post='2986723'] If that can help settle all this, both sides are dumb and annoying. [/quote] Whats wrong loose a string and have something take off on you? Amazing calling ones ally that was agressed Dumb. [quote name='Ayatollah Bromeini' timestamp='1339987956' post='2987072'] Key words, but indeed, I agree. [/quote] Well you lead them here pushed them all the way to the cliff but only they jumped.

[quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1340137369' post='2989139'] lol ok Bud, you keep pushing that line. It's not like it matters anyway, I'm not here trying to turn anyone against you, the people that matter already know anyway. But I'm SURE your EMPHASIS on random WORDS will help CONVINCE people. It's amazing that for how long you've been here, the quality of your posts has never improved. [/quote] meh [quote name='tamerlane' timestamp='1340138764' post='2989173'] Yes, I get what you are saying but I guess I am appealing for one to recognize the context and differences between what I do and what Hal did in this thread instead of play daft (or maybe you are daft, can't tell). Where Hal created a thread (seen here), though not in the venue where one would expect, I post in threads; huge difference. I don't think there would be much outrage had Hal put this in, say, the LSF-NoR or any of the CnG DoWs. If I created a thread saying, "Hey Valhalla - Why don't you preempt INT? I really hope you declare on one of our allies allies. See you soon! ", such confusion as to who I was speaking for would be well warranted. If I posted such a post in athread, it's just another piece of fodder to the pile. Such showboating, while not particularly representative of the attitudes of an alliance, can easily cause confusion as to the position of that alliance. tl;dr If I post in a thread, I am not speaking for MK. If I create a thread, I don't blame you and can easily understand why you would think I am speaking on behalf of MK. [/quote] Im fully daft ask around they will tell you. Either way i get your point.

[quote name='kriekfreak' timestamp='1339836697' post='2985719'] I feel awkward seeing TOP and BAPS fight. Maybe I need to punch both of you to shut up. [/quote] I U [quote name='Jacapo Saladin' timestamp='1339857031' post='2985780'] Oh great, did you learn how to stagger in the mean time? [/quote] LOL really Jacapo BAPS would have your nation in ruins before you could even counter.

[quote name='WorldConqueror' timestamp='1340134322' post='2989079'] lol. 3 Valhalla posters in a row, completely missing the point. I'll just respond to Bud, since he was the most concise. Yes, Seerow and Tamerlane aren't gov. Neither is Hal. I know this. However, what I said is that his statements are in line with the opinions of Valhalla gov. So you see, I'm not saying that he is speaking on behalf of Valhalla, simply that your gov agrees with what he is putting forward here. Geddit? [/quote] I gots it do you get where im telling you that YOU ARE WRONG. What our gov does and does not agree with is not for YOU or I to say its for them to say. If Tronix hasnt said it, it aint fact. You sir unless you have a spy in our house have no IDEA what our gov thinks. Geddit? [quote name='tamerlane' timestamp='1340135170' post='2989104'] Whoa, bro! Where did I post a thread that would give the impression I am speaking on behalf of MK? (save for CCC in which case I was, in fact, speaking on behalf of MK ) [/quote] LRN TO READ. What I said is saying Hal represents Val .gov in his opinions is like saying Seerow or You represent the views of YOUR gov especially when it comes to Valhalla.

[quote name='LittleRena' timestamp='1340129089' post='2988978'] Atleast you attacked someone close to your strength. Oh wait, 14.4m NS vs 3.7m NS Also, 77 nations in PM, RIA too strong for you or something? [/quote] really crawl back in to your hole. The PM stuff needs to stop. Its a strategy. SF has used it NpO NPO and everyone else uses it. Let it go. [quote name='Ayatollah Bromeini' timestamp='1340130014' post='2989007'] The Reformation, Reconciliation, and Revenge of SLCB. Roll swift and hard, my friends. [/quote] Hmmmm How many allies do you have burning on the other side atm? Just wondering. No dog in this hunt for me have fun RIA and NG.