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I think it's prety hilarious to watch the NPO Shoutdown Machine completely ignore the fact that he's not been touched by wave after wave and think that turning this into a debate about nuking will work. I've never been over 10k NS but the nations I've fought have still been able to damage my nation, especially when they had me 5-on-1 down to 2-on1. Simply put, NPO's massive belly roll of inexperienced, underpaid roster-fillers have shown themselves completely inept. Meanwhile, as NPO claims that Acamas is only successful because he attacks inactive nations, an NPO nation attacked me at 13+ days inactivity and has subsequently gotten his tail handed to him on a platter. Pick a party line. Well you'd only surrender and find a nice safehouse to retire to when it got rough, anyway.

Don't count us old vets out too early. Well, you said it. My timing is impecable. There was a time when I could lick my own wounds.

Following the old divining rod to gold is a gamble to be sure, but I imagine you're right on that count, Chairman.

Mission, accomplished.

There is but on true, proper timezone: Where The Emperor Is Standard. You can read my further publications at vox.mnemonik.net

The Law is our first love.

The Shadowman rustles some papers about in his hand, thrusting this way and that as he punctuates words on a practice run. He sips at a brandy, draws a deep breath, then pulls the microphone forward . . . As it has been a few days, and as I imagine my younger counterparts are all off galavanting on this end of the week, I hijack this announcement for the world's pleasure: Vox Populi wishes to inform the world that Starfox101 has resigned his senate seat mid-term to pursue a lady--abandoning the Vox Founding Principle "Bros Before Hoes" at his own peril--and pursuant to our charter the Senate has appointed Electron_Sponge to fill such for the remainder of the term. Starfox's absence also causing a vacancy in the office of Vox Dei, the second senate composed of the rest of us plus Sponge have also duly elected Doitzel to that heavy burden (for which youth is better suited than wisdom). Lastly, we wish to inform US Brians Room particularly, and you all generally, that we have amended our charter in response to his stunning argument: The below amendment to Article IV passed without opposition, and the Vox Dei issues this statement with its certification: "Thank you, US Brians Room, for enlightening us. We can still learn from the NPO." Vox Populi thanks you in advance for all free publicity to come, US Brians Room for challenging us to expand ourselves and our reality, and of course hopes to see global conflagration coming to a power superstructure near you - and soon! Oh, one last thing, the thin form tossed those glaring eyes back over his shoulder, The Order of the Red Geranium is active. All wings report in. Then he only cackled, the sound nearly indistinguishable from the crack of hard soles on cold floor.

This is becoming more and more fun.

Glad to see that Monos Archein's Deputies of Foreign Affairs are real ambitious guys. Keep up the good work.

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Kick OG out of Citadel and I'll see what I can do. Also, do you plan on "not negotiating" the same way Reagan did, because we could use the money and guns.

I love the loaded language. "Abuse" "exploitation" etc. We're operating within the bounds of the game -as we always have - but it's always "abuse" or "exploitation" "Exploiting" the senate vote system. "Abusing" the in-game PM system. "Exploiting" and "abusing" the sanction system. Your concerns might be valid but your tone is whiny. What happens when we work within the next set of rules for alliance sanctioning? Another change? Will we change every aspect of the game that Vox Populi decides to use to its advantage or toward its ends? Should we get rid of peace mode because Vox Populi uses peace mode? Should we get rid of the attack range limitations so that when every Vox Populi nation is at 0 infra they can still be declared on, because it's only fair? Is it "fair" that to stop our aim TOP would have to move people off its AA? Who says what "fair" is? Was it fair that Hyperion got attacked? Was it fair that people went through KaiserMartens' photobucket account? I mean he's a 16 or 17 year old kid. The simple fact of the matter is that for the players who can think only in terms of military might, their might makes anything they can accomplish with it fair to them. Well, we don't fight with militaries, never have, and our methods are as fair on our battleground as you say yours are on your battleground. A physical war is fought with tanks and never on equal (fair) footing. As much as TOP values its years of labor on their community and nation-building, NoV valued its community, NpO its, GOONS its, LUE its, \m/ its, but would you have admin remove aspect fo the military to have kept them from having to give up theirs'. I think "no."

653 days is enough to rack up plenty of regrets. I never went to the forums between Feb 12 2007 and September 11 2007 except once to ask a rules question (that never got answered) but I remember seeing all these Nordreich avatars and sigs etc and saying to my boss "wow these guys must kick everyone's asses." rofl.

"Where I came from"? I came from the same place as you, Slayer, fark.com. Or didn't you read the whole interview? One might say that your actions in UjW are exactly what we could have expected out of you considering your TF shens. But then you do constantly step in these 1-finger-forward-3-pointing-back arguments.

LJ, granted my activity's been pared waaaaaay back, but I haven't noticed any negativity on the forums from you in regards to VP. Can you outline your beef?

Haha, yeah, Alfred. I'm going to have to reconcile that headwound with a RP thread. Lately I've been busy writing a DarkMistress/WarriorConcept sexytime story though. JoshuaR, keep your eye on the forum day before Thanksgiving. Cornelius, I think it's just as much a shame that Cylon had to leave VE and get votes from Vox Populi sweat to get a senate seat. VE's subservience to GGA and the rest of the Viridicide crew is pretty nauseating.

As part of Ghostlin's blog, I submitted to an interview, which you can read at his blog here: http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?a...p;showentry=188 His RP intro was very good; I was surprised to see by some of his content that he's read up on my RPs and knew my character well.

More arbitrary terms and definitions. There can be no "rogue" senator; it's simply not possible. Every candidate must gain a large amount of support to become a senator - the votecount legitimizes every senator in every circumstance. You simply apply loaded terms to an opposition candidate because it sounds nice. Additionally, while a ruler cann't "re-vote" for a senator, they can remove their vote to the same effect by switching color, saving, then immediately switching back. This has no effect on their collections but removes their support from that senator - there s the method for dealing with a senatorial action you disagree with. Once a nation or group of nations move to a color sphere, the senate becomes representative of that group. They are nativized and should exercise their democratic power. Whatever action a senator they elect takes is representative of their will and sanctioned by their support. One more outright silly "lol peace mode" comment from someone with 2d thought. One 50k NS nation leaving peace mode to be mobbed by three 80k NS nations does nothing for a war, 200 nations exercising movement and voting abilities to elect one senator is strategy. Maybe if some alliances I'm replying to exercised strategy they wouldn't be last year's news.

Exactly. There can be no "abuse" of sanctions - they are used by democratically elected servants. In the example of both of our senators, their vote count is almost (or more than) quadruple our actual membership. Their actions are endorces by the people that voted for them in spite of anti-Vox-senator campaigning. Your definition of "sanction abuse" is the definition that suits your alliance on the opposite side of the surrent conflict and is without merit whatever. These replies are trash. Peace mode is a strategic tool provided by Admin because "he is to [sic] powerful." They show a complete lack of understanding of any aspect of play other than mashing the "deploy" button - the type of play that truly makes wars worth fighting. They also display a complete ignorance of current events - no one "got wind" of a Vox war - we declared war in the same thread that we declared our existence. There can be no manipulation of the system. All efforts were made and successful within the system What is "cowardly" about a nation taking on a senate campaign while being sanctioned by 8 spheres and in full knowledge of the fact that he will PZIed for his campaign? Can anyone do a better job of justifying this, because really so far this discourse is lackluster at best. Don't even consider the timing -- there simply is no reason to implement this change at all.

Why should a nation or alliance be able to exert complete phsyical control of gameplay without any possibility of repercussions?

I must second this sentiment. I have seen the way this game truly is dominated in every aspect by the power-players from which sphere an individual is "allowed" to locate his nation on all the way up to who "gets" to play. As such I have been active in senate campaigning for months precisely because it offered one of the last aspects of play that presented enough of a challenge to be fun, but required tact and timing to be successful. That one more area of gameplay has simply been turned over to the Biggest Sticks represents one more failure of effort to provide any incentive to spend time really playing this game. Why even try to do anything to effect change or create fun with the constant expectation of a hand descending from on high and grabbing success from one's clutch?

Troof right here.

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