Ironfist

[quote name='Sarmatian Empire' timestamp='1318105470' post='2821047'] Of course, never said I didnt see it coming He served his purpose, so it's whatever. [/quote] Temporary score inflator? Unfortunately, people like that will only ever be such to a community. If he wants to be neutral, he should remain in a neutral alliance. Dancing around to avoid war is pretty pathetic. Least this guy stayed: http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=34821

All hail the just and glorious CNSTAFF! Bringers of divine justice and my personal heroes. [spoiler]There is no justice.[/spoiler]

[quote name='renrohns' timestamp='1317852587' post='2817406'] But the game cuts off at two decimal places, so it will actually get dropped to zero before too long [/quote] Well of course. Two decimal places are a bit arbitrary though. After awhile, the amount of decimal places would be impossible to conceive. But it certainly wouldn't be in 9 days.

[quote name='Unknown Smurf' timestamp='1317792056' post='2816795'] Theres plenty of instances when MDPs aren't activated because they aren't necessary. If NpO doesn't need to go to war, it doesn't. There should be no negative PR from it. Like when you were in VE and Kerberos Nexus declared war on you guys. All your MDP+ treaties didn't need to declare war. NSO+Tetris are about as effective as Methrages alliance was anyways. [/quote] I didn't say I agree with it, I just said that's how it is. NpO will likely be looked upon as not honoring their treaty, whether it's justified or not. Like in UPN's case. There were still people who thought UPN's allies were cowards even though UPN openly said "we asked them to stay out of it". Welcome to the peanut gallery. And I'm not sure if you're referring to me or to Symphony, but I personally was never in VE, so I'm not really sure what you're getting at. EDIT: And I don't know that it's wise to say NSO and Tetris are ineffective. I gather you're saying that because you're at war with them but there's PR and then there's blatant naivety.

[quote name='supercoolyellow' timestamp='1317785934' post='2816593'] So Tetris has lost over 11% of its NS in the past 24 hours. Does this mean there won't be a Tetris in nine more days? [/quote] 'Twould be the paradox of an asymptote.

Delay?

[quote name='johnathan buck' timestamp='1317791367' post='2816783'] Iron, it's a MDoAP if i recall right. Legion took the aggressor role in this war, so that would make it a optional entry since it's a MDoAP and not a MDP or a guess you could call it fictional MDaAP (Mutual Defense and Aggression Pact). [/quote] I was under the impression Legion only declared because they thought they were the victim of Tetris' antics, making them Tetris the aggressor in their eyes. [quote name='Gibsonator21' timestamp='1317791300' post='2816779'] Not really. It isn't hurting them in the eyes of most, just the ones who want at them. [/quote] Funnily enough, that's the very definition of most. 'Round these parts.

[quote name='Gibsonator21' timestamp='1317790998' post='2816772'] If Legion doesn't need the help, no need for them to ask Polar to come in, especially since so many people want Polar. Legion has plenty of other allies that would match up better with their opponents, if they want/need the help. If not, why bother exposing their allies? [/quote] PR. Like I just said.

[quote name='Gibsonator21' timestamp='1317790496' post='2816757'] Why, exactly, would Polar need to bother stepping in anyway? Legion outnumbers all three alliances on them, and none of the three are recognized as being very good. Polar would be overkill on anyone, and the only benefit of them coming in would be for all the people who want to stomp them. [/quote] Because it's an MDP, not an ODP. There's no reason they [i]have[/i] to, but they can't expect to get away with it without losing PR.

[quote name='Jorhan Stahl' timestamp='1317693335' post='2815311'] 1) I am already trying to. 2) What in the world makes you think that even a month's worth of infrastructure, tech, etc. isn't unfair? You've posted 1000 times in this forum. Chances are you probably have nukes or other deterrents in place, or have a stream of aid from your alliance so you can make him lose that stuff and get him knocked back down. You fail to realize that A NEW player like me STANDS NO CHANCE against these kinds of nations, and if you're insinuating that me going into war with my !@#$@#$ SIX SOLDIERS will somehow hurt him as badly as he can hurt me, you're DEAD wrong. [/quote] I can understand why you're angry. A lot of people around here hate raiding, or at the very least discourage the practice. I'm going to assume they're raiding you. If they're not, they're just picking on you because they can. I wouldn't worry too much about what they have stored, because chances are if they've acted like that for over a year, they've had their fair share of beat downs and they've had their money, infra, land, tech etc destroyed by other angry nations. The best thing I can offer you in terms of advice is to either stick with MHA's quizzes or admission policies, or join another alliance. Once you're in an alliance, the attackers will be brought to justice. If you do decide to stick it out, and we all hope you do, try contacting someone on either IRC (the main mode of communication around here) or over the forums. There are plenty of guides as you've seen, but usually experienced players will be the best guide of all. Hang in there.

It's not so much the money to spare, it's more the time to spare. Time is the most important resource is CN. Sending a free 3mil package to a nation wastes 10 days of time. That being said, it makes it all the nicer to see nations do that, still.

[quote name='James Dahl' timestamp='1317761375' post='2816374'] NSO is on Maroon now btw, in fact they haven't been on Brown in like a year [/quote] It [i]could [/i]be an attempt at maroon.

I can't believe anyone could cheer on NZ In other news, I'm more of an AFL fan myself, but I just had to comment on the slither of Australian media I saw. I do like NRL though, and yes, I'll be cheering on the Sea Eagles. There's just no way I can bare a NZ triumph in our own country.

[quote name='Duncan King' timestamp='1317519157' post='2813628'] I replaced it with a slower one. Haven't quite figured out my GIF maker yet. [/quote] Yeah that works

[quote name='Duncan King' timestamp='1317498918' post='2813459'] [img]http://i242.photobucket.com/albums/ff120/duncanking/2011/fun.gif[/img] [/quote] Might just be me getting old but it's a tad fast. Other than that, good job.

[quote name='Jenne' timestamp='1317471550' post='2813308'] Since my nations inception in 9/23/2006 I had Aluminum and Furs as my resources. With the recent game change allowing me to change resources, I switched my Furs resource to Water on 9/22. When I did that, I lost 2/3 of my land by growth. I realize that Furs has a growth multiplier, but I would have thought the loss of that multiplier would have applied to my growth going forward and not back to my start date. [/quote] How come? If resources change, they change the properties involved. You're assuming that each day of growth is recorded, but it's all accumulated. Like most things, a discount, or an increase, is applied retrospectively.

This is actually a pretty cool thread. Keep up the good work. Look forward to seeing it actually used, however. I imagine it'll be a lot more interesting when there's a global war

Has there ever been a pink sanctioned alliance? Except Sparta?

This was a surprise. Good luck to all NV members moving forward.

I've seen better screen shots before. I think every (most?) alliance(s) have pretty opinionated members who seek the war button as soon as they can find a semi-coherent reason for it. The only thing that fuels this is the public perception of Legion and if anything these threads just show how bored people are. Is it really all that funny to look at other alliances' FA policies (which are directed at membership alone), and mock loud-mouth members? A few childish people in a crowd doesn't mean they should all be spoon-fed. And a friendly reminder of how to do their job is SOP in most, if not all, alliances. Legion are even acknowledging their short-comings in the exact same post.

[quote name='Lanore' timestamp='1317004415' post='2808689'] Ironfist, we amended the charter to allow MDAPs a while ago specifically to troll you. It worked. @Banksy: MK [/quote] Well that's silly. I was one of the few GATOans who was in favour of MADPs. When did the charter change?

[quote name='SpoiL' timestamp='1317004145' post='2808686'] GATO is a capable and honorable alliance that will always deliver on the commitments they have agreed to whether it is the hard thing to do or not, or hopefully CnG will make them that that way. Congratulations GATO. [/quote] Your sarcasm got all over my shoes...

[i]What?[/i] Don't get me wrong, GATO and CnG are pretty much one and the same anyway. But I thought that was always a [i]de facto[/i] thing. What ever happened to the "We won't sign Mutual Aggression Treaties"? Anyway, cue TIO complaining because GATO didn't like them, and other nations living in 2007 complaining that GATO are still terrible, etc etc. Haven't seen NSO yet, guess we'll have to wait for their party to arrive.

[quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1316739769' post='2806353'] I read on CNtel that MK is moving to Pink, so obviously this is MK making their members switch their AA to different PF alliances and move to Pink so they don't get caught doing it. Then once they are all moved, their AAs will become MK again. [/quote] Is the source of that "discovery" suggesting MK's AA will be completely empty at one point in time or another? MK's charge suggests otherwise: http://www.cybernations.net/stats_alliance_stats_custom.asp?View=Charts&Alliance=Mushroom%20Kingdom

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1316715038' post='2806054'] This game isn't a war simulator but a political simulator and war is just one of the tools to be used. Declare war just for fun isn't really funny, since the war system is pretty boring, so no offense but the idea is stupid. [/quote] Luckily A) you're not being forced to do it, and B) not everyone has the same opinions as you.