King Louis the II

le sigh...... o/ Umbrella o/ Sparta

Good luck guys. You have great protectors and you should go far. my best wishes!

At the first moment I thought this was a grave dig or something. Welcome. Feel free to establish an embassy and have a beer in our forums. Added: Congratulations and good luck!

[quote name='Letum' timestamp='1329695113' post='2924244'] I am not claiming preparing a strike against others is a bad idea or even a negative concept. However, once you cross that line, you have to realize that you are no longer being persecuted, but you are the one doing the persecution. Military action can and does serve the interest of alliances, and if Roquentin believes that undertaking military action against the NPO will suit Sparta's interests, then Kudos to him; however he also has to recognize that doing so makes him an aggressive entity and that he will be treated as such. To claim that he is still a victim in that context would be nothing sort of ludicrous. NPO has not expressed any plans or even desire to roll Sparta and Roq. Roq has expressed both plans and a desire to roll the NPO. [/quote] I interpret Roq words regarding NPO something that was said in the heat of the moment. I don't think Sparta has anything against NPO.

[quote name='Rebel Virginia' timestamp='1329602008' post='2923560'] [color="#0000FF"]So did lots of good alliances. You were a coveted meat shield more than you were a respected alliance. Anyway, yes, I can only agree with SirWilly. FoB has fallen quite a ways if it is casting its lot in with Sparta. Then again Banksy points out that this is an entirely different group than the original. Still a shame that they have set out to sully the good name of the former alliance.[/color] [/quote] Say the guy that was rollled by alliances from all the spheres. Recently, you sold yourself to an alliance that was once one of your prime targets. You are the one the fell dude.

[quote name='Londo Mollari' timestamp='1329544204' post='2923182'] TTK is inactive crap that won't fight and I am saddened to see Sparta signing with them. Miss u sparta [/quote] I disagree, for instance they are very active in our forums. By the way you should pay us a visit we miss you too!

Former and Now current allies. Goot to see this FoB!

my best wishes to both!

Congratulations on peace to all alliances involved.

Very happy to see this! It is a privilege to have you guys as allies!

[quote name='Rush Sykes' timestamp='1329244212' post='2920443'] Only if "get to know" means "dont say a word to them for 2 months, then expect open arms." [/quote] please ask Caster to forward the msg I sent him. You know the story. I assumed the delay was my fault.

[quote name='thaone' timestamp='1329243137' post='2920435'] Roq, is there still someone left in MK you do like? [/quote] Does the answer of this question help to elucidate whether the allegations made are true or false?

[quote]We treat Sparta like !@#$ because you ARE !@#$. I never personally had relations with Sparta, but you were the ONLY ally who didn't carry over a treaty to TLR when we merged, and basically told Athens to $%&@ off[/quote] only if "$%&@ off" = means: lets we know GR and Lost a little and than we can discuss carrying the treaty. Them, when we took the initiative yes, you treated us like !@#$. It is your prerogative, and you are in the right to do what you think is right. But this is not the subject here. So if you want to discuss it further feel free to msg me.

[quote name='MCRABT' timestamp='1329241434' post='2920417'] Yuck. A 19 page mixture of the extreme distasteful and the worryingly insane and still no answers. It seems rationality is dead on both sides of the fence. [/quote] I find myself "out of the loop" and I am waiting for answers as well...

[quote name='Roquentin' timestamp='1329241065' post='2920409'] I don't have a lot of confidence in Umbrella, to be honest. [/quote] I do.

[quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1329239832' post='2920391'] Would that be like Mushroom Kingdom combining all the worst parts of NPO, GOONS, 1st ed., and the Sponge-era NpO and becoming that alliance? They've had quite the run the last month or so toward that endeavor as the evidence on the OWF shows. I might suggest they alter course, but then again, who am I to point out how close the shoreline is.... [img]http://www.globalpost.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/medium/cruise_ship_runs_aground_italy.jpg[/img] [/quote] I think I said this once, and I will say it again. You are one of my favorite posters here... (even when you take shots at us.... )

Killing the messenger and forgetting the message.

[quote name='Vol Navy' timestamp='1329210396' post='2920120'] Really, it seems at this point most of MK aren't even denying it any more. Just saying that Roq is just as guilty as they were because he was in on it too. It's pretty much like he's betrayed the mafia at this point. Sure they were running a criminal empire, but that's not the problem. Spilling the secrets, that's the problem here. But as always is the case in these situations, MK members/allies will crawl out of the wood work en masse to decry anything negative said about them. I will say this, I've never gotten along with Roq all that much, but trying to say he's irrelevant is just ludicrous at this point. That's why his blog post lit up like the 4th of July and this one is steaming on for who knows how many pages. I'm also not really sure how this is OOC as some are saying. It's in-game spying with in-game consequences and done in an exceptionally duplicitous manner by appearances. [/quote] QFT From what I learned chatting around this is basically the opinnion of many people from different spheres that are just too lazy to post here.

I looks to me that the excessive effort for damage control shwed here wouldnt change the oppinions of the silent majority... But i could be wrong.. And this without hiroshima.

Congratulations.

Good luck to our friends. My best wishes for you guys.

Sad to see friends going apart, but sometimes it is necessary. Good luck to both of you.

[quote name='Banksy' timestamp='1329022226' post='2918847'] Honestly these responses are so tedious. You just posted that you were having difficulty communicating with NG over the issue which led to your OP (i.e. you are in the dark) and then you lash out at someone for being ignorant. [/quote] Sparta is having fruitful conversations with NG to try to solve this issue in a way all the parties can be satisfied. It seems to be for the best interest of all parts. Conversations have been slow, which doesnt mean that anyone is in the dark.

[quote name='Believland' timestamp='1329012476' post='2918726'] Stand tall, or fall for nothing. I can see your speaking from exp., thanks for the lesson, Willy. [/quote] There were some many competent and likeble'people in TOP... We actually were getting closer once, times definetly change. What you have to do with subject discussed here (other them throw cheap shots and uninteressant comments) just escapes me. Specially after reading great posting from gremlins...

[quote name='Omniscient1' timestamp='1329016202' post='2918783'] Someone catch me up, I assume NG is continuing their raid despite Sparta's (basically) protection over AGW? [/quote] Sparta wants to find a solution that would fit well for both parties and to avoid that AGW become vulnerable for actions like that in the future.