Felix von Agnu

[quote name='Geoffron X' timestamp='1295890069' post='2596763'] Treaties mean nothing! Wheeeeee! [/quote] Yes, that is exactly what I said. When is TPF honoring their treaty with STA then (Not to bring up that herpderp point again, even I think its stupid)? NV jumped in the war attacking one of our allies. Sparta went in to assist said ally or something. I shouldn't need to number the points for you to connect a few dots here.

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1295890008' post='2596762'] So you don't care if your alliance doesn't honor it treaties if that helps you to win, I'll keep that in mind. Thanks for the answer. [/quote] See, not every alliance is like Polar. Fighting on both sides of a war you started is mind numbingly stupid. Not that I wouldn't expect anything different from you or your alliance. I know that this will be lost on the likes of you, and will be twisted to mean whatever you think I said/wanted me to say. Also, if you read a little further, you would know I said I didn't particularly like it. NV is an alliance I have nothing against.

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1295888010' post='2596709'] As you wish, so I realize that even after I repeat the same questions countless time I haven't seem an answer yet, so tell me, how do you/VE feel knowing that Umbrella asked Sparta to attack an ally of yours without any treaty to back it attacks? Answer and I'll quit "yapping" [/quote] I don't really see how the treaty situation with Sparta matters. They are a sovereign alliance, they should be able to dictate their own moves, not treaties dictating for them. Your Sith pals would agree with that. I don't really care about the declaration. It was done to help relieve pressure on one of our allies. Do I like it, not particularly. Do I understand it, yes.

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1295887740' post='2596702'] Are you annoyed? Nice! [/quote] Not quite. Keep yapping and it may happen.

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1295886708' post='2596677'] One day people of your alliance will understand that the truth doesn't become less truthful after being repeated countless times. [/quote] One day you will realize repeating the same point just shows how little you really have to say. You're like a little yapping dog, you just have an annoying yelp.

Crush them, Hooligans.

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1295881390' post='2596582'] Do you also find it hilarious that Umbrella, a blocmate of your Alliance, requested Sparta to attack an ally of VE? Are you also laughing about that? [/quote] I think its hilarious how many straws you have to grasp at, and then repeat ad nausium, to make yourself feel witty.

Battle of the Protectorates! Gogogo!

[quote name='Lusitan' timestamp='1295849141' post='2595913'] It's an ODP though. He's telling the truth though, there's no treaty chain, all MDPs are appliable here. ALL of them. [/quote] So we'll be fighting side by side then?

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1295848883' post='2595881'] Since there is no treaty between WF and Sparta we can consider Sparta bandwagoners in this particular DoW, so my question is: will VE defend NV or will them let an ally be aggressively attacked because a member of PB asked Sparta to hit an ally of VE? [/quote] You must feel very original bringing up this point again. Is Polar going to declare on Sparta? I believe you have a treaty with them too.

[quote name='askani the rotund' timestamp='1295848431' post='2595843'] Which begs the question,Will VE be defending NV? [/quote] I don't know. A man can hope though.

[quote name='D34th' timestamp='1295848219' post='2595806'] Looks that all that Sparta's masters said was: "Say that one of your allies requested help" I think that even Sparta gov doesn't know what treaty they are activating to do this, may be VE requested that Sparta attacks NV? [/quote] I would be very hard pressed to believe we told some alliance to hit our allies.

Don't pull a muscle Sparta.

All this talk of how terrible we are, yet no one attacks us. Hmm...

[quote name='pezstar' timestamp='1295631078' post='2589285'] Actually, they wouldn't have told us. NV is a pretty awesome ally, and they get a pass on small infractions. NV would have simply said "We don't think it's Athens attacking you after all." and then apologized within moments of your declaration going up. And, because we've been in their crappy position before, with allies warring allies, we'd have told them that we understand completely and been ok with it. We have faith in them, you see. You should try it. [/quote] Ya'know, if you read Centurius' post, you would know it was an accident we didn't inform them. !@#$ happens, oh well. We apologized for the mistake, just like NV would have done. I see nothing that shows us not trusting them. That doesn't quite fit in with your rhetoric though, so go ahead and keep ignoring it.

[quote name='Schattenmann' timestamp='1295629723' post='2589258'] But, Bama, NV and TOOL are the enemy. [/quote] That is completely missing the point. NV isn't the enemy, STA is. His point was that by telling NV, they would turn around and tell STA. I'm guessing you already knew that though, and couldn't pass up the chance to try and sound witty.

[quote name='Duncan King' timestamp='1295628296' post='2589228'] a brilliant yet totally asshat move. It's nice to see that you hold your mutual treaty partner with STA in such high regard that you'd attack one of their allies. And with that, the war does a zigzag. [/quote] This has been done in the past during wars to limit counter declarations. It's nothing new.

[quote name='ChairmanHal' timestamp='1295628839' post='2589238'] Either you're doing it for the lulz or are honestly just that torn about which side to ride with. Either way, if you can make an argument why this is in your strategic interest expect perhaps from a PR perspective (e.g. RIA always keeps their treaties, no matter what!), I'd love to hear it. [/quote] No matter what, they are on the winning side!

[quote name='Delta1212' timestamp='1295627455' post='2589216'] Trump card: [img]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/11/God-kills-kitten.jpg[/img] Your move, GATO. [/quote] This explains why lotion sales in the Land of Tricks have skyrocketed.

Thanks for the support, guys! :

[quote name='pezstar' timestamp='1295586137' post='2588146'] NV is telling me you didn't tell them. TOOL is telling me your pals there in Brigade didn't tell them. I feel like you guys are pretty horrible allies today. [/quote] Wait, not telling out allies allies about our allies declaring war on our behalf makes us bad allies?

[quote name='pezstar' timestamp='1295585950' post='2588131'] Your treaty with NV is still active. So what's your excuse for not telling them? [/quote] Hey! That is the ally we share. I was trying to think of who that was. Thanks! Oh yeah, your question. Dog ate our telegraph.

[quote name='Ragashingo' timestamp='1295585543' post='2588081'] Kinda? Like how kinda? [/quote] It's gone. [quote name='magicninja' timestamp='1295415602' post='2583012'] You missed it about 5 months ago. IAA is in the fray for Polaris and I daresay if things keep escalating ODN and Athens may not be too far behind on VE's side. It's Ridiculous for us to say the least. Go GPA or go all out. $%&@ it All out it is. [/quote] [quote name='Smooth' timestamp='1295415630' post='2583018'] Treaty's been cancelled. [/quote]

[quote name='The Big Bad' timestamp='1295582538' post='2587718'] No eveyone knows it was a set up. Using Lennox was not a wise move. And when the entire set up went balls up and Polar came to tell them they were being spied on they should have let it end then and waited for something better if they were not able to make things happen themselves. Instead as the entire plot began to collapse and Polar prepared to go public VE jumped into war. If it was not a set up why refuse to talk to Polar when they came to warn them about a spy? Why rush into the war to avoid the entire fiasco was about to be made public? It was a set up all right. A poorly thought out and poorly lead one. Done right it could VE could have come out looking. Done this poorly it has VE looking like fools. [/quote] You are trying way to hard, man. How could we have forced the Polar guy(whatever his name is) into telling Lennox to come after us, without his knowing about it? Are you going to say he was in on it too next? Use the tin foil for baking, not hats.

[quote name='Confusion' timestamp='1295585036' post='2587985'] I totally agree with this. With allies like VE, who needs enemies? I wonder if they notified GATO they were hitting their MDoAP/Bloc partner. Confusion. [/quote] I honestly don't know if we notified them, but last I heard that GATO treaty was kinda gone.