Nelchael

[quote name='Haflinger' date='20 February 2010 - 11:37 AM' timestamp='1266694671' post='2193984'] Choosing to be allied to alliances which have such a history of discord as VE and NpO speaks for itself. [/quote] Sorry, there's no escape from the hole you dug. It's amazing how your memory works. You can find a way to whine about bubble gum war in any topic, but you can't remember that VE and NpO were allied to each other a couple years ago? Around the time NV signed with VE?

[quote name='Haflinger' date='20 February 2010 - 10:59 AM' timestamp='1266692374' post='2193938'] I don't think you've ever been allied to GOD. [/quote] ... so you think NV should oA against our allies' MDAP partners? I'm starting to think Invicta calling an alliance "good allies" may not be such a good thing.

[quote name='Haflinger' date='20 February 2010 - 10:50 AM' timestamp='1266691822' post='2193911'] I'll get right on that when you guys start looking out for the Polars. [/quote] I'm pretty sure if you look in this forum a few weeks back you'll be able to find at least one instance where we looked out for them. Or are you suggesting we declare war on VE, an ally of more than two years?

Oh come on guys, we're already at war with two alliances, now you're making it three?! I mean, THREE alliances to our one! We're totally outnumbered! </whining> Curbstomping NV aside, welcome to our little corner of the web and good luck... Maybe I'll sell some infra so I can come play with you [quote name='Haflinger' date='20 February 2010 - 10:40 AM' timestamp='1266691219' post='2193891'] Here's another difference between the two cases. We didn't make a request. BAPS contacted us, and man we are grateful. BAPS are the best allies any alliance could ever hope to have. [/quote] New Invicta surrender terms: Invicta will acknowledge that NV are the best allies any alliance could ever hope to have.

Hey! Quit interrupting their chest-thumping with all your facts and logic! Yay Invicta! Way to sacrifice your members for no good reason!

Too much support for Penkala in this thread. I've got my money on RV.

[quote name='Voodoo Nova' date='14 February 2010 - 09:53 AM' timestamp='1266170036' post='2180909'] Welcome to politics. Fact of the matter is, 57th was your ally. You treated your ally like they were not even worth a damn to you, and it shows through the government and the membership. 57th deserved better than this, especially from someone they considered a friend. [/quote] Geez, that sounds heinous! You'd think GLOF joined planning channels of both sides of the war and fed intel to one side while secretly telling the other side they were coming in the next update or something!

[quote name='GearHead' date='13 February 2010 - 02:34 AM' timestamp='1266057283' post='2179070'] I think NV has more treaty conflicts in this war than mostly anybody I know. With that said, I can only applaud NV for being so impartial with all of them. [/quote] You calling us treaty whores? I kid, I kid, just being tied to NpO gives us treaty conflicts on all sides of this war.

In TFD's defense, they also declared on WAPA. Not that I approve of THAT attack either, but that's not slim pickings or an expected easy target. In C&G's defense, this isn't exactly an easy war for anyone to plan. There are a lot of alliances to hit and counter, many have allies on both sides, and the treaties only go so many ways. I'm sure FoB will receive a lot of rebuilding aid. And on that note, it's pretty sad to see two more of NV's allies fighting each other.

Sorry, but the screenshots Veneke provided to GLOF are as fake as can be, and they were provided directly. I'm sure GOD would be the first to say "let's just talk this one out" if fake screenshots were used to expel and then attack one of your members. These aren't just obvious forgeries, they're poorly done forgeries.

[quote name='Aeternos Astramora' date='10 February 2010 - 01:22 AM' timestamp='1265793775' post='2172364'] 17 alliandes vs. TOP. Wow. [/quote] To be fair TOP declared against half of them

Congrats on ending this one and making sure all allies came out with you. Definitely the way these things should be done!

Give 'em, hell, NoR, then nuke them a few times

[quote name='Icheliebebrad' date='07 February 2010 - 01:50 PM' timestamp='1265579427' post='2167359'] Poison Clan is the best allies anybody could ever ask for [/quote] Last time NoR said that about us, you cried... how do you think we feel?

[quote name='Nathan Grant' date='07 February 2010 - 03:57 AM' timestamp='1265543832' post='2166702'] Whoa Tiger, obviously you are misinformed![/quote] I assure you I'm much more informed about this than you are because... [quote name='Nathan Grant' date='07 February 2010 - 03:57 AM' timestamp='1265543832' post='2166702'] These are negotiations being handled above my level in Gov[/quote] Yes, they are being handled above your level. They're being handled at mine. [quote name='Nathan Grant' date='07 February 2010 - 03:57 AM' timestamp='1265543832' post='2166702'] ...1TF has no reason to continue war with ADI.[/quote] Indeed, but your alliance is making ridiculous demands and refuses to accept peace. At the moment, peace is simple for ADI to attain, but your leadership is unwilling to agree to it. [quote name='Nathan Grant' date='07 February 2010 - 03:57 AM' timestamp='1265543832' post='2166702'] Furthermore, you should not make threats because you are the one who looks foolish.[/quote] Saving that one for later.

[quote name='Nathan Grant' date='07 February 2010 - 03:05 AM' timestamp='1265540736' post='2166673'] Troy is now at Peace with ADI. 1TF declared on ADI because 1TF has a treaty with GR, who has a treaty with FoB, who has a treaty with Troy..... By that logic, 1TF is a several times removed junior partner in a war that was between ADI and Troy. Since Troy accepted peace, 1TF is no longer obligated to defend them on behalf of FoB, on behalf of GR. So, in essence, 1TF's continuation in this war is completely voluntary. Just because ADI can continue to fight is not a justification. Obviously rules and conventions mean nothing to you. [/quote] Once again you're spouting complete nonsense. You really should stop posting before everyone starts thinking the rest of your alliance is as foolish as you. ADI has no reason to continue to war with 1TF, this is true--you just proved my point. ADI's war with 1TF has absolutely nothing to do with NATO. You're now refusing to accept peace with 1TF because they're at war with NATO, even though 1TF declared on you with GR in defense of FoB. If you wanted to make a stand for your ODP partner you should have declared war on 1TF for hitting NATO. You have absolutely no justification to continue this war or make unrelated demands of 1TF. Your continued, unjustified warfare against my MDAP partners is almost as bad as the OOC insult you just lobbed. I'm sure you'll learn the lesson when I make a similarly unrelated demand before I accept your surrender, though.

Congratulations on leaving 1TF out to dry. Well done!

An unfortunate but understandable DOW. Best of luck to all allies and allies of allies in this war.

[quote name='Tromp' date='06 February 2010 - 02:32 PM' timestamp='1265495542' post='2165221'] It really is a pleasure to be along your side, Nueva Vida. /me waves to raasaa and Nelchael. [/quote] Thanks, Tromp, the feeling is quite mutual. This definitely beats having to sit around throwing rocks at each other and pretending we don't like each other!

[quote name='The AUT' date='06 February 2010 - 12:29 AM' timestamp='1265444964' post='2164052'] I've discussed it with them and told them I thought they were being played. Here you guys are, declaring war on their friends and allies and having zz shoot out at the mouth about how much damage he's going to cause. Repeatedly they've gone to bat for you, and not once have you supported them in militarily in any way. However they won't listen, and my signature is made out to the likes of you.[/quote] Perhaps our allies know much more about our relationship than you do? Is your complaint really that we screwed over one ally by declaring in defense of another ally who requested that we do so? I've seen no other MDP activation requests, and I'm pretty sure I've already warned everyone that we're defending allies, not sides.

[quote name='The AUT' date='05 February 2010 - 11:57 PM' timestamp='1265443066' post='2163978'] Hoka-hey! It's a good day to brag about being on the winning side of a curb-stomp and abandoning your allies who defended you last war for your other ones like you do every war! [/quote] Hoka hey, It's a good day to make stuff up again just because you don't like us and have nothing good to troll with! We haven't abandoned any allies. Feel free to go declare on one of our allies if you want to test that, or go, y'know, ask our allies whether we've abandoned them.

Good luck, LSN, you're going to need it. Good on ya defending allies, though. o/ 1TF

[quote name='Lord Levistus' date='05 February 2010 - 11:16 PM' timestamp='1265440583' post='2163824'] Spewing nonsense? FAN has no binding treaties with anyone. There was no legal paper treaty between FAN and Poison Clan when PC hit Valhalla[/quote] bawww.. FAN has no treaties so they're not allowed to go to war?

[quote name='Kn1nJa' date='05 February 2010 - 10:13 PM' timestamp='1265436798' post='2163477'] P.S. I mean no disrespect to NV. I realize that you guys wanted to go in earlier, and that the bandwagon full of 8 year olds couldn't wait to dogpile on us. It was unfair of me to lash out at you like I did, so I apologize. Good luck to you NV on the battlefield. [/quote] Thanks, but I don't mean to say their help isn't welcome. Even if we could fill all of your war slots on our own I'd want FOK fighting the same target as us just for the lulz factor... not to mention commies defending NoR. This is epic! Can you believe we were all fighting each other this time last week?

Good luck to our friends in Polaris. I know this wasn't an easy decision to make, nor an easy one to announce.