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Had some great times, spent crazy amounts of time and effort in playing the game. In the end, probably took it too seriously and antagonized some people but such is life. I apologize to all for that. Deus vult!

Oh, I almost forgot. Beware of the snake in the grass.

Thank you Centurius for posting this. The Shadow Junta will take over from now. No need to stay in hiding anymore. Crymson, Feanor, let's lay down the law. To the puppets in New Sith Order. For any and all surrender talks (your surrender obviously), contact The Shadow Junta directly. Paradox Vult!

Big factor in this story is warchests. I believe many nations funded their growth by ignoring proper warchest maintanence. This means that once they start to run dry their infra, tech and NS means little if they get bill locked or unable to launch many attacks. We've seen nations as big as 110k NS get deployed offensively with as little as 120M warchest. What I gather from that is that even with their advantage of 2:1 on TOP front, they still are at their limits of deployable forces. Deploying a nation that can hardly fight for even one round of war is proof of that.

Roll GLOF!

You should ask them to surrender. Defeated a major alliance singlehandedly before, how hard can it be with help of TOP :). Btw good to see you. Hope you've been well.

Cheers guys. Especially Methrage. Good luck.

Long live SNAFU! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwdnNyySDLI

BiPolar this!

Congratulations MK and TOP (I've got to congratulate my own alliance, I am so inactive it's almost a separate entity ). In any case, didn't think I'd see this, but to the future comrades! In Hoc Signo Vinces!

[quote name='SirWilliam' date='10 April 2010 - 07:54 AM' timestamp='1270882431' post='2255268'] All things considered SGC was a great asset for TOP when they most needed a level-headed GM. Enjoy your well-earned retirement. Congratulations to the new administration, and best of luck to you all. (Hey Timberland. ) [/quote] Tears are in my eyes [quote name='Zambaman' date='10 April 2010 - 07:58 AM' timestamp='1270882666' post='2255273'] Oh god it's a miltary coup, please help us [/quote] We're doing it wrong. War ends and we elect 3 military commanders to be our GM, GC and GH. All hail the Evil Paradoxian Empire!

[quote name='Zombie Glaucon' date='08 March 2010 - 06:06 AM' timestamp='1268025090' post='2217669'] Salka Palmir? [/quote] Sister Midnight?

[quote name='Duke William I' date='08 March 2010 - 03:56 AM' timestamp='1268017274' post='2217517'] I hope Avernite is well. And wish my friends in TOP only the best. [/quote] Avernite is well, but he is rather busy and cannot continue in this role.

[quote name='Emperor Marx' date='08 March 2010 - 03:41 AM' timestamp='1268016346' post='2217486'] Interesting. Good luck. [/quote] Ski, I knew it.

[center][size="6"][b]Official Announcement from The Order of the Paradox [/b][/size] [img]http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1841/topflagnt2.png[/img] [/center] [b]Government changes[/b] Due to unforeseen circumstances XXIII Grandmaster of The Order of the Paradox, Avernite of Mafal Dadaranell has resigned his position. According to Article II, Section 1, part C. (Order of Succession), Grand Hospitaller SkyGreenChick will succeed Avernite as Grandmaster or better to say, [b]Grandmistress of The Order of the Paradox.[/b] Position of Grand Hospitaller will be filled by the runner up in elections Jenko, and vacant spot of Grand Inductor will be filled by Benevlan. We thank and salute Grandmaster Avernite, and wish he returns to active TOP politics soon. But now we welcome our first female Grandmistress SkyGreenChick! [b]Paradox Vult! Avernite Vult! Long live Queen Mother SkyGreenChick![/b]

Thank you for nothing.

[quote name='Baden-Württemberg' date='02 March 2010 - 12:27 AM' timestamp='1267486250' post='2210410'] TOP, next time when you infiltrate another alliance and gain control, don't make it that obvious, please [/quote] We really should have thought this through before. Congratulations Nemesis, our plan is working.

We aren't planning anything. I can safely say that MK is no where near top of the list of alliances we hate right about now. We may have seen you as a threat and an opponent and most of your members agrees they did the same, but we did not hate you. Given way you are treating this war that could change however. Well, I'm going to love seeing how you pry anything for our cold dead hands. Not only you won't pry anything but you will lose hundreds of thousands of tech trying. And not get a cent from us. That is unless you stop with unreasonable crippling terms. We are not in a vacuum, while rest of the world grows CnG can try to contain us. I am going to enjoy watching alliances start to dwarf you and your position weaken day by day. All because you could not see that it is in your interest to end the war, end the cycle and try to find a good solution for both sides. Problem in your equation is that even if we are completely destroyed, including all our tech and infra, we will still have all our wonders and all we will need is 1000 infra (bought for 5million) and some spare cash to buy up nukes. Even a 0 tech nuke does 150 damage and keeps someone in nuclear anarchy. You've seen Aircastle deploy on 3 targets each, now imagine 200 nations did that. Do you really want to make us into your arch-enemy? So we can either find an end to the conflict which won't leave bitter taste in peoples mouths or we can keep this up hurting both of us a lot. You can disperse the damage but the losses are still there.

Look, offer is 350k to your alliances (meaning 700k net loss for TOP compared to your side). This means that if we accept the terms we will effectively lose all our tech without causing any damage. Not only that but our slots will be locked with reparation payments for unknown amount of time (depending on how much tech CnG can absorb) and for whole that time we would be completely banned from buying tech for our own growth. So, tell me, we should give up all of our tech (because by giving 350k to your side we are losing 700k in relative advantage) and cause no damage? Seriously, you think this is a good offer? Comparisons between MK paying 58/85k? tech with 170 members and TOP with 205 (and some ghosts) paying 350k are valid. Amount of tech we currently have is completely irrelevant to determining whether terms are harsh or not. For example I have 2.7B warchest as of this moment, if CnG wants I will pay you 2.7B in cash myself. Now, tell me, is this any useful? Just because we have 700k tech with 200 members doesn't mean we have 50 slots per member. We still have 6 slots like everyone else. So making TOP pay 4 times as much in reps than MK did is extremely harsh and completely ridiculous. Not to mention we would essentially be at mercy of all alliances receiving tech to give us lists of targets in time to not prolong the payments unnecessarily. Given that NPO is still paying 350k and 12B they recieved I really doubt they would do us a favor there. And unlike NPO, TOP would have serious issues buying tech internally. In other words, "Merde!".

[quote name='Branimir' date='28 February 2010 - 06:48 PM' timestamp='1267379490' post='2208503'] That is a terrible English version of our saying, 100% different in wording from our own, similar only in the basic idea conveyed. To make up for this falsehood, you are to write an essay "Why Croatian is superior compared to English" on minimum of 4 cards of text delivered to me via p.m. You have a week time to write it up. Anyway, I found that the amount of will to surrender is *negatively proportional to the amount of one's warchests. *hopefully that is the correct mathematical term, as I hate mathematics and try to ignore/avoid it as much as I can. [/quote] I think it would be "reversely proportional". I don't think it applies fully though. Some people put their honor above their stats and would not like to surrender even if at zero stats. Some would surrender after the first nuke. So it's not really accurate and especially not for TOP who puts so much in its community and collective spirit. Oh and I could not remember our saying, only variant there is (Tko sije vjetar žanje buru/oluju), is there another better one? I didn't think I translated it that badly .

[quote name='der_ko' date='28 February 2010 - 12:21 PM' timestamp='1267356277' post='2208128'] This is false. TOP still holds massive amounts of tech and with their remaining warchests they'll recover record fast if we grant them white peace. Obviously we will not allow this to happen. [/quote] Who sows wind, reaps a storm. -Croatian saying

[quote name='Instr' date='27 February 2010 - 08:28 AM' timestamp='1267255905' post='2206219'] ODN performed much better than I had expected and are a solid and reliable military alliance. TOP is still one of the loss-leaders of this war; with something around 60% NS loss from peak. At the present point, they are taking very little infra-damage as they are rebuying infra as fast as we can smash it. They'll take warchest damage for this tactic, but they have decent enough warchests to last a while. That said, some TOP members coordinated pretty well, and I'm ashamed to say I never managed to interrupt even one attack from Crymson, Telchar, and Stukov. That round, I lost 7k infra, but I bought back to 5k afterwards. [/quote] We're rebuying to 1k infra to lob nukes at our opponents with higher infra levels. Each of ours nukes does 10 or 20 times in damage to what we lose (guys with higher tech do even bigger damage). Warchest "damage" is worth it from a military standpoint. Oh and your rebuying to 5k "damaged" yours as well .

[quote name='JoshuaR' date='23 February 2010 - 09:49 AM' timestamp='1266915189' post='2198818'] First, a post of mine from another thread, with thoughts that fall into line with the general idea of the original post. And because I seem to have missed where this was noted before: Where is the thread where it's pointed out that Archon is obviously creating the artificial Polar peace so as to have an even "higher" moral ground? Where peace was desired ASAP and conveniently "15 minutes before TOP started rolling." [/quote] http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=79467&view=findpost&p=2151175 http://forums.cybernations.net/index.php?showtopic=79467&st=120&p=2151083&#entry2151083 That thread.

[quote name='Banksy' date='24 February 2010 - 01:24 AM' timestamp='1266971305' post='2200089'] It's such a shame no one did this pre-war. A before, during and after would be fascinating. Good work Haf. [/quote] Actually I think someone did. I'll check if he did and if he's willing to bother with getting it and posting it .

I was really impressed with how Aircastle did. On a serious note, I think MK fighters were hardest I had. Few Vanguard I did have were decent (Rafael Nadal was awful though ), but their warchests were really bad. MK on other hand has good warchest, and keeps hitting . Good work guys.