Jay Kay Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Immortan Junka said: Once again Rebel is using deliberately misleading information as a political attack It is from the same source as you get your statistics and is easily checkable by anyone here including you Its your whole alliance who are fighting or fought and those that made it into the losing statistics included nuclear nations and larger nations above and beyond what anyone would call a noob. You really want full details posted to prove your libel? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest Mothers Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 4 minutes ago, Morphine said: Junka, you and your alliance are worth nothing more than a couple rounds of tech to Polar. I guarantee I could double or triple what you provide them and I don't need a protectorate treaty to do so. Goodluck buddy. You know how to get peace. Quote Morphine is a growing, developing, and historic nation at 866 days old with citizens primarily of Caucasian ethnicity whose religion is Islam. It is a backwards nation when it comes to technology and many refer to it unkindly as a 'Third World Nation'. Its citizens pay extremely high taxes and many despise their government as a result. Technology: 12.96. Literacy Rate: 20.00% Infrastructure: 166.34 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serberus_I Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 I doubt there will EVER be peace between AM and SNX whilst Junka is still about. He does not have the good grace to admit he is defeated and so this war will continue and SNX will fracture and fall apart. We had already won before the war started, he just didn't know it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serberus_I Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Jay Kay said: It is from the same source as you get your statistics and is easily checkable by anyone here including you Its your whole alliance who are fighting or fought and those that made it into the losing statistics included nuclear nations and larger nations above and beyond what anyone would call a noob. You really want full details posted to prove your libel? Do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericsw Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 what isn´t shown in stats is just how hard it will be for suicide bombers Junka enters into battle to rebuild. Now.. I know Junka has magic aid slots and all but surely these guys are going to have a slow rebuild Nord is getting 200k in one DA, lol To: Beatrix van Oranje From: ericsw123 Date: 7/25/2017 3:33:33 AMSubject: Defeat Alert Message: Your nation has been defeated in battle. You do not have enough troops to defend your nation and your government has been thrown into Anarchy. You have lost all of your tanks, 5 spies, 40.62 infrastructure has been destroyed, 10.15 technology was lost and $945,003.10 of your money reserves was destroyed due to the invasion and resulting riots. What troops you did have deployed have also been returned home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serberus_I Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 We, at AM, are not without mercy though, Junka mate. When SNX is defeated and you are chucked from said alliance, I'll send you a recruitment message! You won't be given a govt position EVER because you're really not leadership material, but I'm sure we could find a place for you ... Court Jester perhaps. As I said, you are funny! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morphine Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 And congrats Junka on your "winning" but here's the real truth. Your "alliance" is 30 members more than mine and still your BARELY winning if at all. Your members hide in peace mode, come out to self anarchy and then lob nukes so the stats will be skewed. The point is - you can use all the propaganda in the world because in a conventional fight AM would wreck you and just 1 of my members is worth more than your entire alliance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serberus_I Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 1 hour ago, ericsw said: Nord is getting 200k in one DA, lol Wow! That's well good. It's as if SNX are wanting to give us their money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest Mothers Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 2 minutes ago, Morphine said: And congrats Junka on your "winning" but here's the real truth. Your "alliance" is 30 members more than mine and still your BARELY winning if at all. Your members hide in peace mode, come out to self anarchy and then lob nukes so the stats will be skewed. The point is - you can use all the propaganda in the world because in a conventional fight AM would wreck you and just 1 of my members is worth more than your entire alliance. It's called "guerrilla", it's a tactic, and it isn't less honourable than attacking a guy who 3 days before sent a message saying that he wanted peace and he haven't intention to attack. That doesn't seem a guy using scorched earth War Declared By War Declared On Nation Name: Kreig Morphine Ruler Name: HorusLoyalist Morphinel Alliance: Imperium of Supernova X Apocalypse Meow Soldiers Lost: 43,427 39,375 Tanks Lost: 2,544 1,893 Cruise Missiles Lost: 0 0 Aircraft Lost: 44 22 Navy Lost: 0 0 Infrastructure Lost: 322.66 1,280.81 Technology Lost: 61.54 212.06 Land Lost: 165.159 431.021 Land/Tech/Infra: 1,523.41 Strength Lost 5,549.26 Strength Lost Destruction Rank: This war is more destructive than 1,069 of 1,595 existing wars. How is that thing that your members lost 2 in 3 battles against us then? We weren't in self anarchy, we even bought infras multiple times. The Empress of Peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serberus_I Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 Hahahahahahahahaha Buying infra during wartime! We've already discussed that folly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericsw Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 Just now, Serberus_I said: Hahahahahahahahaha Buying infra during wartime! We've already discussed that folly. AGAIN, helps stats, loses wars love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Khan Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 2 hours ago, Immortan Junka said: Once again Rebel is using deliberately misleading information as a political attack to convince our enemies they are winning against us, much like when he praises Khan, who has lost 13,000 tech since November, as "winning" because he has high damage ratios and nuke spreads against younger nations at 10,000 NS. I am winning. The stats show I'm winning. Of that there is no doubt whatsoever... whatsoever. Better get used to it folks... I'm bringing back winning like you've never seen before. I, Donald Trump... and listen carefully folks, I'm serious... have taken on the pineapple terrorists, almost single handedly I might add, and I am whooping their asses. You don't hear me complaining about the stats because the first thing crooked Junka did was to sell off all his infra, do you now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serberus_I Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Emperor Khan said: the first thing crooked Junka did was to sell off all his infra, do you now? LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest Mothers Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 13 minutes ago, Serberus_I said: Hahahahahahahahaha Buying infra during wartime! We've already discussed that folly. That's why you and Conservative South lost against us 12 minutes ago, ericsw said: AGAIN, helps stats, loses wars love it No, helps wars, that's why we won 2 in 3 wars. The folly was buying a fleet: not just only the 4 battleships for the roleplay, but even destroyers, landing ships, frigates and corvettes. 9 minutes ago, Emperor Khan said: You don't hear me complaining about the stats because the first thing crooked Junka did was to sell off all his infra, do you now? Next war I'm going to sell infra, too. But the target isn't one of yours http://www.cybernations.net/nation_drill_display.asp?Nation_ID=605131 I don't smash radfems since January 1988, and I miss it The Empress of Peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serberus_I Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 You're beginning to sound as deluded as Junka lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest Mothers Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 Just now, Serberus_I said: You're beginning to sound as deluded as Junka lol. No, Khan is nice, not deluded. I suggest to end this madness, it's really obiouvs that both sides are receiving too much damage and rebuild is going to be long, and painful: just check Morphine, or even your nation, or this guy You have just conducted a spy operation against the nation of Empire of Celestria. In the attack your spy efforts were successful as your spies were able to gather the following information about the nation: Last Tax Collection: 7/13/2017 12:02:02 AM Last Bill Payment: 7/12/2017 1:30:17 AM Desired Religion: Norse Desired Government: Transitional Threat Level: Guarded Tax Rate: 30% Number of Spies: 14 Last Nuke Purchase: None Last Wonder Purchase: 6/21/2017 Total Money: $1,570,134 Technology: 327.12 Levels Trade Partners: Rundland, the dead rise Secret Aid Sent To: None Military XP Ratings: Army XP: 16, Navy XP: 6, Air Force XP: 45, Intelligence XP: 1 Assigned Generals: Air Force XP Level 104, Army XP Level 53, Intelligence XP Level 24, Navy XP Level 24 Total Aircraft: 0 Aircraft Fighter Strength: 0 Aircraft Bomber Strength: 0 Navy Purchases Today: 0 Navy Vessels: Corvettes: 0 Landing Ships: 0 Battleships: 4 Cruisers: 0 Frigates: 0 Destroyers: 2 Submarines: 3 Aircraft Carriers: 3 Your spies returned home unharmed and unidentified. The Empress of Peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serberus_I Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Greatest Mothers said: No, Khan is nice, not deluded. Was talking about you lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serberus_I Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Greatest Mothers said: I suggest to end this madness, it's really obiouvs that both sides are receiving too much damage and rebuild is going to be long, and painful: just check Morphine, or even your nation, or this guy The Empress of Peace. Another SNX player wanting peace! You heard it hear first, folks! Some of your key members have been given our terms for your surrender, you weren't included. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 Everyone in ISX wants peace, but it's not going to happen until AM stops supporting terrorism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest Mothers Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 Just now, Serberus_I said: Was talking about you lol. You lost, so life goes. War Declared By War Declared On Nation Name: Femocratic Lands The State Ruler Name: Greatest Mothers Serberus Alliance: Imperium of Supernova X Apocalypse Meow Soldiers Lost: 85,972 136,610 Tanks Lost: 4,043 11,216 Cruise Missiles Lost: 0 0 Aircraft Lost: 41 106 Navy Lost: 4 0 Infrastructure Lost: 611.69 1,050.86 Technology Lost: 175.42 155.49 Land Lost: 408.758 501.851 Land/Tech/Infra: 3,325.29 Strength Lost 4,682.80 Strength Lost Destruction Rank: This war was more destructive than 1,137 of 1,594 existing wars. And Conservative South lost even in a worse way, though he had more money than you. We lost against ericsw, but this is 1 in 3 wars. The Empress of Peace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatest Mothers Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Serberus_I said: Another SNX player wanting peace! You heard it hear first, folks! I didn't say that I want peace. I already have peace, it's not your choice. I suggested to end this madness, showing one of yours with 1.57 million left. Quote Some of your key members have been given our terms for your surrender, you weren't included. Terms for surrender? From an alliance that attack players who stated that they don't want to fight, and that have a leader who have 166 infra and members with 1.57 million left? The Empress of Peace. Edited July 25, 2017 by Greatest Mothers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Zigur Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) Quote To: Immortan Junka From: Serberus Date: 7/25/2017 11:21:57 AMSubject: Hi mate Message: Hi mate, I sense the end is near, time to start fleeing that sinking ship. Fancy joining our growing alliance? During a recent minor conflict, our membership has actually grown and our nations continue to develop with wonders and good old-fashioned grit. Drop me a message if you're interested. Regards, Serb Edited July 25, 2017 by Immortan Junka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serberus_I Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 I am glad you are considering the offer, Junka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serberus_I Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Greatest Mothers said: From an alliance that attack players who stated that they don't want to fight, and that have a leader who have 166 infra and members with 1.57 million left? You're talking about SNX now right?! lol. I think you need to wake up and smell the lies of Junka. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Lucis Caelum Posted July 25, 2017 Report Share Posted July 25, 2017 (edited) Damage stats can be manipulated early on by having nations sell land (Land tends to go fast in nuclear war & nations with a lot of natural growth can get by without any purchased land) or infra, eliminating sources of damage before the other side can effect them. I haven't seen any of this on AM's side, but moreso from SNX; who measures how much they are winning on the stats. Although as the war goes on longer, these methods to help skew damage stats early on won't make much of a difference. So I'm not putting to much weight in these early damage stats. Edited July 25, 2017 by Noctis Lucis Caelum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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