Vilien Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 (edited) Edit: Sarcasm on the internet? Edited January 20, 2010 by Vilien Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Impero Romano Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Interesting... You're not going to PZI him, yet you're going to see his destruction? How very interesting Yes, that's what a single ZI is, complete destruction of all infrastructure. Also wow, kid hits a "P" as a slip up then hits edit and suddenly hes satan lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernkastel Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Also wow, kid hits a "P" as a slip up then hits edit and suddenly hes satan lol That's a very weak and pitiful excuse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believland Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 If we had a nation in range, I'd add him to our Perma-ZI list as well. Heard it here first, TOP endorses PZI. :v Vilien, that was a joke by the way. Blue has never been serious. I'll be watching this situation. Looks like some good drama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yersinnia Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Please read this. It is not PZI. Talk are going on, but let me shed some light on what's going on. Ghosting Valhalla this user attacked us for no fault of ours. Valhalla contacted us and made us aware of the situation. We sent for peace several times. He continued attacking. Then, he began poaching from us. He mass messaged our members to leave wF. That is wrong. We have done nothing towards him. Then he continues to attack us. His NS is too low for us too attack, properly and quickly. He has also ghosted Valhalla, MHA, NPO, Athens, TOP, among others. Changing it regularly. Then he changed his About section, criticizing wF govt. I ask to you, free topia, what have we done to you? What? We didn't do anything to you. We are a peaceful alliance. You attacked us, and then accepted peace from a non-govt member, while talks were still going on. I just thought I would spread some light on this. Thanks. Freetopia gesticulates wildly toward the fact that this is only a game :-). The current alliance and treaty system means that any nation over about 10000NS has the choice of joining an alliance or facing instant anarchy from alliance members on raids. Our actions are in protest at this reality and should be seen in this light. Our initial attacks were directed against inactive members of the World Federation and intended to provoke thought and discussion, instead as is always the case, the single nation faced threat of destruction from the alliance. Freetopia does not deny its actions however these were taking in the necessary defence of our people against overwhelming odds and a system which favours the old over the new. We bear no malice to the World Federation and as such, we maintain our Cease Fire. Long Live Freetopia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Believland Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Yes, that's what a single ZI is, complete destruction of all infrastructure. Also wow, kid hits a "P" as a slip up then hits edit and suddenly hes satan lol Did you read the OP? He never mentioned "PZI" it was "Perma War and ZI" plus the other post. Leads one to think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baltus Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 Freetopia gesticulates wildly toward the fact that this is only a game :-). The current alliance and treaty system means that any nation over about 10000NS has the choice of joining an alliance or facing instant anarchy from alliance members on raids. Our actions are in protest at this reality and should be seen in this light. Our initial attacks were directed against inactive members of the World Federation and intended to provoke thought and discussion, instead as is always the case, the single nation faced threat of destruction from the alliance. Freetopia does not deny its actions however these were taking in the necessary defence of our people against overwhelming odds and a system which favours the old over the new. We bear no malice to the World Federation and as such, we maintain our Cease Fire. Long Live Freetopia. So, you admit that you atacked us for no reason what so ever? The only one that seems close to valid is "The current alliance and treaty system means that any nation over about 10000NS has the choice of joining an alliance or facing instant anarchy from alliance members on raids. Our actions are in protest at this reality and should be seen in this light." How are we at fault, here? That is how CN works. Alliances are a key part of Bob. Yet again, I point to the fact that, we have done nothing. And his reason is that the current way that CN works, isn't fair. From my point of view, that's not a good reason to attack an alliance that has done nothing against you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Lightning Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 (edited) Just out of curiosity, does wF allow it's members to tech-raid? [edit]Also, lolVilien. Edited January 20, 2010 by Blue Lightning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Il Impero Romano Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 (edited) Did you read the OP? He never mentioned "PZI" it was "Perma War and ZI" plus the other post. Leads one to think... I believe he meant permanent war until ZI (attempting a flair of dramatic wording more then anything else), and he edited to clear it up. Not a big deal really in my opinion Edited January 20, 2010 by Il Impero Romano Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yersinnia Posted January 20, 2010 Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 So, you admit that you atacked us for no reason what so ever? The only one that seems close to valid is "The current alliance and treaty system means that any nation over about 10000NS has the choice of joining an alliance or facing instant anarchy from alliance members on raids. Our actions are in protest at this reality and should be seen in this light." How are we at fault, here? That is how CN works. Alliances are a key part of Bob. Yet again, I point to the fact that, we have done nothing. And his reason is that the current way that CN works, isn't fair. From my point of view, that's not a good reason to attack an alliance that has done nothing against you. And from the point of view of Freetopia, making use of a inbuilt game system, clearly intended to be used by the creator (as is evidenced by its existence) should not automatically mean that that nation faces the wrath of an alliance whose combined strength outweighs that of the single nations by several orders of magnitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Compound Posted January 20, 2010 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2010 (edited) Just out of curiosity, does wF allow it's members to tech-raid?[edit]Also, lolVilien. We do not support it Edited January 21, 2010 by The Compound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baltus Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 And from the point of view of Freetopia, making use of a inbuilt game system, clearly intended to be used by the creator (as is evidenced by its existence) should not automatically mean that that nation faces the wrath of an alliance whose combined strength outweighs that of the single nations by several orders of magnitude. Yes, that's why you're attacking a 6-month old alliance for what's been going on for 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blue Lightning Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Ok, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yersinnia Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 No, we do not. Correction, you dont sanction it, however a quick look over all the active wars on Bob will show that neither do you take any action against. As long as the raids are against non-aligned nations then you do nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yersinnia Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Yes, that's why you're attacking a 6-month old alliance for what's been going on for 4 years. Baltus, I have caused no harm to your alliance. Each of your active members with whom I am at war has received millions of dollars in aid and will finish the war larger than they started. If you're gonna play the victim might I suggest that you at first be victimised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chet Ubet Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 I though you guys didn't believe in ZI's? At least, that what you told us when we wanted ZI Gekko for continuously trying to poach members from GDA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bernkastel Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 No, we do not. We do not support it First you don't allow your members to tech-raid, period. Then you edit saying you don't support it, but you do allow it -- since I see plenty of wF tech raids. You really need a permanent policy on this stuff, wF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Thanks for coming to me in regards to his situation when he applied. It was good talking to you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yersinnia Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Thanks for coming to me in regards to his situation when he applied. It was good talking to you guys. i didnt apply, you offered and said you'd aid when i applied. then when i applied you rescended your offer, i presume under threat from WF. Such bravery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krunk the Great Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 i didnt apply, you offered and said you'd aid when i applied. then when i applied you rescended your offer, i presume under clarification of my stupidity from WF. I have fixed your comment to reflect the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 i didnt apply, you offered and said you'd aid when i applied. then when i applied you rescended your offer, i presume under threat from WF. Such bravery. We only would have aided after you applied for help. There was no threat from wF and I had already put your application on hold regardless before they contacted me because you engaged in offensive wars which automatically makes you ineligible for aid and or membership. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yersinnia Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 We only would have aided after you applied for help. There was no threat from wF and I had already put your application on hold regardless before they contacted me because you engaged in offensive wars which automatically makes you ineligible for aid and or membership. thats fine, just be a bit more careful when your messaging people in future. those wars were active days before i even knew you existed and certainly before you messaged me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WarriorConcept Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 thats fine, just be a bit more careful when your messaging people in future. those wars were active days before i even knew you existed and certainly before you messaged me. Will do, but that's why we have the application procedure to double check Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baltus Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Freetopia, I never said we were the victim. All I ask is one very simple question, which you seem to like avoiding. Why are you attacking us? Why not someone else? I want to know your reasoning. Why did you attack a 6-month old alliance for what every alliance has been doing for more than 4 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yersinnia Posted January 21, 2010 Report Share Posted January 21, 2010 Freetopia, I never said we were the victim. All I ask is one very simple question, which you seem to like avoiding. Why are you attacking us? Why not someone else? I want to know your reasoning. Why did you attack a 6-month old alliance for what every alliance has been doing for more than 4 years. because, judging by your quick response to UED a little while ago, I assumed that i would definitely get a reaction from you guys and i needed a reaction to illustrate the point im making. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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