Timberland Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 You may not be able to rejoin TOP BK but I know you're a TOPper at heart, something no one can take away from you BK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astronaut jones Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I had a feeling log dumping was being looked down on. Are you now asking us to do such things? After telling us how bad we've been with restricting their movements? Which is it, do things right, or do things that are looked down on?And we have nothing to hide. Some individuals might just not like these things on the forums. I never said log dumping was bad, so go ahead and dump them. You claim nothing to hide, yet you refuse to discuss things publically, kind of a hypocrite, aren't you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astronaut jones Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 No no no, AJ said it was definite in DefCOn...don't argue with him. He's always right. We wouldn't want facts to skew his drivel. You seem a little bitter, and when I'm wrong, I've never been one to not admit that. I was wrong in that, I thought it was defcon, it was auric armada. See? You really don't know how I work if you're going around believing what you said right there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWConner Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Its all really perspective on terms.By saying to a nation, "you can't join x alliance or we'll go back to war with you", is much different from saying, "hey x alliances, you're not allowed to accept this nation into your alliance" If the term were put into place, there'd be nothing stopping you from accepting the nation into the alliance, but you would be taking on the baggage of a terms violator and them possibly being put into a state of war which would be a diplomatic nightmare which would have been easily avoided by not accepting the person in the first place. And honestly, this was my take on the terms laid out. As I stated, I didn't look at it from the alliances' point of view. Only that of the nations in question. In no way were terms laid out to tell our allies and their allies or other alliances for that matter who they can and can't take in as members. For one that's incredibly stupid and two, it's never been our intention. It may have been naive in the political aspect of things, but it was in no way representative in our view of their sovereignty. I expect that most who have commented know this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkala Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 And honestly, this was my take on the terms laid out. As I stated, I didn't look at it from the alliances' point of view. Only that of the nations in question. In no way were terms laid out to tell our allies and their allies or other alliances for that matter who they can and can't take in as members. For one that's incredibly stupid and two, it's never been our intention. It may have been naive in the political aspect of things, but it was in no way representative in our view of their sovereignty. I expect that most who have commented know this. Hey, you're willing to apologize and correct yourself. It may have been a mistake at first but good on you for removing that term. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantanX Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 i like peace Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkala Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 i like peace You're not allowed to be unless you're in MK or TOP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWConner Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 I never said log dumping was bad, so go ahead and dump them. You claim nothing to hide, yet you refuse to discuss things publically, kind of a hypocrite, aren't you? *publicly Sorry, grammar nazi in me just couldn't let it go. Anywho, those issues are now dead since the restrictions have been removed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWConner Posted November 12, 2009 Author Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Hey, you're willing to apologize and correct yourself. It may have been a mistake at first but good on you for removing that term. Who are you and what have you done with Penkala? Oh, and thanks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rabonnobar Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 You seem a little bitter, and when I'm wrong, I've never been one to not admit that. I was wrong in that, I thought it was defcon, it was auric armada. See? You really don't know how I work if you're going around believing what you said right there. No take it back! Now I can't, with a good conscious, troll you for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gantanX Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 You're not allowed to be unless you're in MK or TOP! i can be whenever i want it, and where ever i want it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timberland Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 BK making alliances surrender 1 at a time o/ BK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kane Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 BK making alliances surrender 1 at a time o/ BK Yours is next. B) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timberland Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Yours is next. B) Please do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Fair? By who's definition? The parties involved or un-initiated bystanders such as yourself? Your leaders opinion, as he apologized for it. Also, JWConner, I hate your decisions most of the time, but I have always respected you and will continue to. Good man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poobah Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Yours is next. B) Don't hurt their stats! D: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mpol777 Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 VA and these nations came to terms. How and why is their business. The End. Now run along children. The grown-ups would like to talk and you're bothering us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trace Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 VA and these nations came to terms. How and why is their business. The End.Now run along children. The grown-ups would like to talk and you're bothering us. Personally I hate talk, and prefer action. But whatever floats your boat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penkala Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) VA and these nations came to terms. How and why is their business. The End.Now run along children. The grown-ups would like to talk and you're bothering us. What? "Hey guys, I'm getting in your business of what you're commenting on to tell you not to get into their business!" Edit: (ooc) Personally I hate talk, and prefer action. But whatever floats your boat Posts: 1,057 OK, then. (/ooc) Edited November 12, 2009 by Penkala Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NationReaper Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) So i have been sent here to apologize...but after seeing all these responses i feel rather jipped....*makes note not to let Brother-Kane and Penkala handle negotiations* Anyway im here to clear a few things up and make my apology...note this apology was previously approved by JWConner. 1. I do apologize for using nukes before going to conner myself. 2. I Apologize for joining VA under false Pretenses. 3. I apologize using the warchests i requested as LoAF to pick one of my targets. Edited November 12, 2009 by Voldorish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaera Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) From IAA's stance, we have viewed this entire situation as an indirect attack on our sovereignty - Voldorish has made a mistake in going nuclear rogue against Veritas Aequitas, but regardless of that circumstance, the Empire will never permit our membership to be dictated or restricted by exterior forces. Personally and collectively we thank VA for renouncing the term in question and appreciate their work in creating an amicable solution to a rather radioactive situation. Edited November 12, 2009 by Chimaera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NationReaper Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 (edited) To clear a few things up however...we approached VA after we attacked, before nukes, and asked for the terms and erixxxx and mankiller told us to screw ourselves and banned us from their chans and what not. Before update last night i sent VA messages about the possible peace and said to ask conner..those nations responded with nukes and attacks..i never counter attacked. As far as spying..im not admitting to spying..it was hardly spying..i joined under false pretenses yes..but i only chose one nation based off their warchest..the other 2 had good warchests and were a good match for me. All it did was save me a spy op. As of now the terms are completed-minus the reps and ZI- Any farther attacks on me is an attack on my home <3IAA<3 Edited November 12, 2009 by Voldorish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
astronaut jones Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 VA and these nations came to terms. How and why is their business. The End.Now run along children. The grown-ups would like to talk and you're bothering us. You're not a very good attention whore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trace Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 From IAA's stance, we have viewed this entire situation as an indirect attack on our sovereignty - Voldorish has made a mistake in going nuclear rogue against Veritas Aequitas, but regardless of that circumstance, the Empire will never permit our membership to be dictated or restricted by exterior forces. Just when you think you've seen it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NationReaper Posted November 12, 2009 Report Share Posted November 12, 2009 Just when you think you've seen it all. you know i thought that once too..then i started working at a hospital....work ER on a saturday night..THEN youve seen it all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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